Preexistence

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,12:28)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,19:11) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,11:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:42) Hi T, Yes and you can know THEM too. N why are you so aggressive ?? Hi Pierre, Are you seeing your reflection again? God bless Ed J edj nice to see your humor I hope nick can see it too

PIERRE,

Oh, I'm sure Nick can see that trait in you as well.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,05:05)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 06 2012,06:33) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,15:26) it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, Terricca………O really, so you say you let scripture do your talking  then please show us where the word, “Jesus”  appears in John 1:1 , seeing your let the scriptures do your talking>   Pierre you talk a lot but produce little scriptural truth. gene if you do not see it with your heart and mind or your soul,then you should stop follow men ,and read scriptures as God as given them to us ,just remember that their still is a selection on, and so the scriptures are the words by witch it is done,

Hi Pierre,

Was it not the systems of religion that has taught
you that “God's word” was someone other than God?

The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 06 2012,12:07)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,15:26) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 05 2012,21:35) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,14:24) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,20:09) Hi T, That sounds as worldly as the words of Nicodemus. N and F you are like Nicodemus ,not me this is what scriptures saying; Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. Jn 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. Pierre, I do believe in Scripture. I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation. F it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark. Pierre, You say: Quote as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking Well, I can see very clearly that you have entered your own commentary in your previous post. Following is your commentary and this is certainly not Scripture doing the talking: Quote do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Then you add: [QUOTE]it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark.[QUOTE] You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.”

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You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.”

this is ok,Frank.we all follow in some way scriptures some just are do it more intense,you have your own limits that you have established within you but this as nothing to do with anyone else but you,

we all fall victim of our own views and feelings or our conviction of our will,this is were separation begins ,because it is not the truth of God that changes but it is us ,

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,05:05)

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 06 2012,06:33) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,15:26) it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, Terricca………O really, so you say you let scripture do your talking  then please show us where the word, “Jesus”  appears in John 1:1 , seeing your let the scriptures do your talking>   Pierre you talk a lot but produce little scriptural truth. gene if you do not see it with your heart and mind or your soul,then you should stop follow men ,and read scriptures as God as given them to us ,just remember that their still is a selection on, and so the scriptures are the words by witch it is done,

Pierre,

Please show us in Yahchanan [John] 1:1 where it says “… and the Word was Jesus.” To my knowledge there is not one single translation of Scripture that ever words this verse in the manner that you propose us to believe it is saying.

Then you propose to Gene:

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if you do not see it with your heart and mind or your soul,then you should stop follow men ,and read scriptures as God as given them to us ,just remember that their still is a selection on, and so the scriptures are the words by witch it is done,

You suggest to Gene “you should stop follow men ,and read scriptures as God as given them to us”.

Would not Gene be following a man (You Pierre) in deceptively attempting to tell him that Yahchanan [John] 1:1 is speaking of Father Yahweh's word as a separate being that existed with Him in the beginning, when in fact nowhere in Scripture that Father Yahweh has given to us does he ever read such foolishness?

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,05:24)

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 06 2012,12:07) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,15:26) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 05 2012,21:35) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,14:24) [quote=Nick Hassan,Mar. 05 2012,20:09]Hi T, That sounds as worldly as the words of Nicodemus. N and F you are like Nicodemus ,not me this is what scriptures saying; Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. Jn 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. Pierre, I do believe in Scripture. I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation. F it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark. Pierre, You say: Quote as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking Well, I can see very clearly that you have entered your own commentary in your previous post. Following is your commentary and this is certainly not Scripture doing the talking: Quote do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Then you add: Quote it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark.[QUOTE] You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.” F Quote You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.” this is ok,Frank.we all follow in some way scriptures some just are do it more intense,you have your own limits that you have established within you but this as nothing to do with anyone else but you, we all fall victim of our own views and feelings or our conviction of our will,this is were separation begins ,because it is not the truth of God that changes but it is us ,

Pierre,

I do not believe “this is ok” as you believe!

[terraricca]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 06 2012,12:42)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,05:24) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 06 2012,12:07) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,15:26) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 05 2012,21:35) [quote=terraricca,Mar. 05 2012,14:24][quote=Nick Hassan,Mar. 05 2012,20:09]Hi T, That sounds as worldly as the words of Nicodemus. N and F you are like Nicodemus ,not me this is what scriptures saying; Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. Jn 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. Pierre, I do believe in Scripture. I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation. F it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark. Pierre, You say: Quote as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking Well, I can see very clearly that you have entered your own commentary in your previous post. Following is your commentary and this is certainly not Scripture doing the talking: Quote do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Then you add: Quote it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark. Quote You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.” F Quote You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.” this is ok,Frank.we all follow in some way scriptures some just are do it more intense,you have your own limits that you have established within you but this as nothing to do with anyone else but you, we all fall victim of our own views and feelings or our conviction of our will,this is were separation begins ,because it is not the truth of God that changes but it is us , Pierre, I do not believe “this is ok” as you believe!

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,06:04)

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 06 2012,12:42) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,05:24) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 06 2012,12:07) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,15:26) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 05 2012,21:35) [quote=terraricca,Mar. 05 2012,14:24][quote=Nick Hassan,Mar. 05 2012,20:09]Hi T, That sounds as worldly as the words of Nicodemus. N and F you are like Nicodemus ,not me this is what scriptures saying; Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. Jn 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. Jn 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Jn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Jn 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it. Pierre, I do believe in Scripture. I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation. F it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark. Pierre, You say: Quote as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking Well, I can see very clearly that you have entered your own commentary in your previous post. Following is your commentary and this is certainly not Scripture doing the talking: Quote do you see in here it is not a “it ” it is a HIS, and guess who John the bpt talking about ?? is not Jesus Christ ?? YES it is. in those scriptures whom is John refers to,is it not Christ ???if not whose the HIM In the scriptures above did not Paul support what John says ?? yes he does why do you not believe in scriptures ?? Then you add: Quote it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking, and you start to discredit the scriptures ,if you have any understanding ,you should explain those scriptures and not send me to Timbuktu  ,call me a supporter of the trinity what I hate so you only put words that do not mean anything and so join Nick in is lost in the dark. Quote You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.” F Quote You say “it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book , …” Well, to me it matters when you set yourself up as teaching what Scripture says and say “and guess who John the bpt talking about ??” when I know full well that it is not Yahchanan [John] the Immerser [Baptist] talking. Then you falsely accuse me (bear false witness against me) of discrediting the Scripture when I simply only asked you what or who gave you the idea that Yahchanan [John] was the author of this book? I also never called you a supported of the Trinity, but simply said “I just don't care to believe in your pet peeve Trinitarian translation.” this is ok,Frank.we all follow in some way scriptures some just are do it more intense,you have your own limits that you have established within you but this as nothing to do with anyone else but you, we all fall victim of our own views and feelings or our conviction of our will,this is were separation begins ,because it is not the truth of God that changes but it is us , Pierre, I do not believe “this is ok” as you believe!

[terraricca]

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You suggest to Gene “you should stop follow men ,and read scriptures as God as given them to us”. Would not Gene be following a man (You Pierre) in deceptively attempting to tell him that Yahchanan [John] 1:1 is speaking of Father Yahweh's word as a separate being that existed with Him in the beginning, when in fact nowhere in Scripture that Father Yahweh has given to us does he ever read such foolishness?

If gene does what I suggest him to do,what is my influence in his reading the scriptures did I have any influence ?? i do not think so,I am not even beside him or not even be there ,so how could it be a man influence men influence is what we have accepted in our hearts from men that s men influence.

as of John1;1 and Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

if you can not see it ,this is not my doing ,I do what ever I can to make it known ,but it has to be from God that the veil is remove from your eyes ,

selection;Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

evil means opposition to Gods  grace

[Proclaimer]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 04 2012,11:04)

Nick………..when it comes to Just SPIRIT it is simply a type or kind of Intellect that give us a type of cognition about something.

Blind faith Gene. You never give scriptural support for this.

We LIVE by the Spirit, gene.

The Spirit of LIFE, not intellect.

Once we have life, then all that other stuff is possible including comprehension, cognition, etc. Without life and without the spirit/breath, we have none of these.

You take one result or fruit of the spirit and say that it is the spirit.

[Proclaimer]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2012,08:21)

Hi Pierre, Was it not the systems of religion that has taught you that “God's word” was someone other than God? The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

Edj.

You blame the systems of religion yet you ignore a really simple and obvious fact.

OF means exactly what is says.

If something is OF something, then it is not that something, rather it comes from it, part of it, or OF it.

Son OF God.
Spirit OF God.
Word OF God.
Love OF God.

[Ed J]

Hi T8,

“Spirit of God” (Mt.12:28)
“Finger of God” (Luke 11:20)
“The Word of God” (Luke 8:11)
“Right hand of God” (1Peter 3:22)

These are all parts of YHVH, not someone else!
Loose the religious dogmas! They kill. (Col.2:22)

David said:  “Now, if Ed thinks that the God is the holy spirit in the same sense that my finger is me,
                     then….I guess he's not as wrong as I previously thought ABOUT HIS IDEA”  (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Okay, so where were we?

John 6:38
For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

This verse speaks of someone who came down from heaven. This someone has a will of his own, which is not necessarily in line with the will of the one who sent him.

This is evident from the fact that this someone says he did NOT come to do his own will, BUT a different will.

It is clear we're are speaking of two wills here. I want to know who those two wills belong to.

I assume we can all agree that “him who sent me” is God the Father.

Who does the other will belong to?

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2012,16:38)

Hi T8, “Spirit of God” (Mt.12:28) “Finger of God” (Luke 11:20) “The Word of God” (Luke 8:11) “Right hand of God” (1Peter 3:22) These are all parts of YHVH, not someone else! Loose the religious dogmas! They kill. (Col.2:22) David said:  “Now, if Ed thinks that the God is the holy spirit in the same sense that my finger is me,                      then….I guess he's not as wrong as I previously thought ABOUT HIS IDEA”  (Link) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

I would like to put it way simpler than what you say;

WHAT ED THINKS AND WHAT MEN THINKS AS NO WEIGHT NO POWER,NO EFFECT WHATS WHO EVER,

BUT WHAT GOD SAYS AND THINK WE SHOULD THINK AND DO IF WE WANT TO BE SAVED THROUGH HIS GRACE NOW THAT'S IMPORTANT,

now some like you edj,will try to set up their own way of understanding ,this of cause as no power or any authority in Gods arrangement's of grace ,because to be saved EDJ,as to submit himself to God ,so the only purpose of the action of the ones like EDJ, is to look important in the eyes of others,in other words pleasing men, and we all know what scriptures saying about those people,

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Would you define what is possible for GOD?

His Spirit manifests in various ways in His prophets but you would not allow that for the Word?

Should the definitions of men be applied to the ways of GOD?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
It is clear that the Word, of the Spirit, already interacted with God in the beginning but nothing makes it necessary for two independant beings to exist for this to happen except by the understandings of men.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2012,17:39)

Hi MB, It is clear that the Word, of the Spirit, already interacted with God in the beginning but nothing makes it necessary for two independant beings to exist for this to happen except by the understandings of men.

N

your answer sound like the priest explaining the trinity

[mikeboll64]

Nick,

Who do you think the other will belongs to?

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
I can understand that.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,17:45)

N your answer sound like the priest explaining the trinity

Sure does.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
The Word.
The Spirit of Christ.

Man's definitions cannot confine God

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