Preexistence

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:42)

Hi T, Yes and you can know THEM too.

N

why are you so aggressive ??

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,18:48)

The Word never came to do his own will. He came to do the will of His Father Who sent Him.

So the Word, which you think is the Spirit/God Himself has his own will that he didn't come to do? And he came from heaven to do the will of his Father?

So now God is the Father of His Spirit/Word/Himself?

One little string, and it all comes unraveled. Best to align with scriptures instead, Nick.

If the scriptures says JESUS said “I came down from heaven to do my Father's will”, then it was JESUS who came down from heaven.

No need for you to confuse things because of your personal wish for Jesus to have been exactly like the rest of us.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Do you think a little god came instead??

The Word was with God and was God.

[mikeboll64]

Yes Nick. Jehovah is the God OF gods. Jesus and Satan are just two of the many gods Jehovah is the God of.

The Word was with THE god, and the Word was [himself] a god/mighty one.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
And you would say this is a safe foundation to teach from?

The WORD WAS GOD

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,11:48)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,18:37) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,10:25) Ed, it works just fine.  Jesus is no longer a human being, but back in the form of God again. Is God a person, Ed? Hi Mike, God is an “entity”. A person is “human”. Look up these words. Since we all speak English, we should all be using the standardized definitions. Unlike Jack, who wants to apply a different meaning to the word “Being”. Or Gene, who wants to apply a different meaning to the words “Free Will”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org World English Dictionary person  (ˈpɜːs ə n) — n  , pl persons 1.an individual human being 2.the body of a human being, sometimes including his or her clothing: guns hidden on his person 3.a grammatical category into which pronouns and forms of verbs are subdivided depending on whether they refer to the speaker, the person addressed, or some other individual, thing, etc 4.a human being or a corporation recognized in law as having certain rights and obligations 5.philosophy  a being characterized by consciousness, rationality, and a moral sense, and traditionally thought of as consisting of both a body and a mind or soul 6.archaic  a character or role; guise 7. Person  (ˈpɜːs ə n) — n Christianity  any of the three hypostases existing as distinct in the one God and constituting the Trinity. They are the First Person,  the Father, the Second Person,  the Son, and the Third Person,  the Holy Ghost is this enough ?

NO,

You didn't look up the word “entity”!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,11:50)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:42) Hi T, Yes and you can know THEM too. N why are you so aggressive ??

Hi Pierre,

Are you seeing your reflection again?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 04 2012,19:09)

NO, You didn't look up the word “entity”!

I did though. It led me to “being”, which lead me to the synonyms “entity” AND “person”.

From here.

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,19:09)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,11:48) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,18:37) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,10:25) Ed, it works just fine.  Jesus is no longer a human being, but back in the form of God again. Is God a person, Ed? Hi Mike, God is an “entity”. A person is “human”. Look up these words. Since we all speak English, we should all be using the standardized definitions. Unlike Jack, who wants to apply a different meaning to the word “Being”. Or Gene, who wants to apply a different meaning to the words “Free Will”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org World English Dictionary person  (ˈpɜːs ə n) — n  , pl persons 1.an individual human being 2.the body of a human being, sometimes including his or her clothing: guns hidden on his person 3.a grammatical category into which pronouns and forms of verbs are subdivided depending on whether they refer to the speaker, the person addressed, or some other individual, thing, etc 4.a human being or a corporation recognized in law as having certain rights and obligations 5.philosophy  a being characterized by consciousness, rationality, and a moral sense, and traditionally thought of as consisting of both a body and a mind or soul 6.archaic  a character or role; guise 7. Person  (ˈpɜːs ə n) — n Christianity  any of the three hypostases existing as distinct in the one God and constituting the Trinity. They are the First Person,  the Father, the Second Person,  the Son, and the Third Person,  the Holy Ghost is this enough ? NO, You didn't look up the word “entity”! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

you lose,you can not present your case ,you have but bla bla,bla

you try to find words and words and never really answer any thing

God can be a person,an entity,a being,an spirit ,

show us any thing different

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:06)

Hi MB, And you would say this is a safe foundation to teach from? The WORD WAS GOD

Why Nick? Tell me what sense it makes for God to have been WITH God in the beginning?

There are TWO possibilities for the translation of 1:1c…………..

1. God
2. a god

Only ONE of those two prohibit you from making a fool of yourself by claiming our ONE God could have been WITH our ONE God.

It's high time you realize this, Nick. I know that old habits die hard.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2012,19:21)

God can be a person,an entity,a being,an spirit , show us any thing different

Not only can He be those things, Pierre, but He is.

[mikeboll64]

Let me kill two birds with one stone here. This is from NETNotes concerning John 1:1……………..

The construction in John 1:1c does not equate the Word with the person of God (this is ruled out by 1:1b, “the Word was with God”);

Nick, you'll notice that even these TRINITARIAN scholars realize that the PERSON of God cannot be WITH the PERSON of God.

And Ed, you'll notice the phrase “the PERSON of God”.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
I did not realise you put so much faith in theologians.
They do not KNOW God

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,19:11)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,11:50) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:42) Hi T, Yes and you can know THEM too. N why are you so aggressive ?? Hi Pierre, Are you seeing your reflection again? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

nice to see your humor

I hope nick can see it too

what is sad is that you do not see what is wrong with you in your teaching, and so not see your own reflection in your action of defending those false believes,I do support you against the Koran,but in scriptures you have to come to the truth of God,

[NickHassan]

Hi t,
You set yourself up as an arbiter of truth,
But truth seems to linger lightly on your tongue while judgement rules.

What gives?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,19:25)

Hi MB, I did not realise you put so much faith in theologians. They do not KNOW God

Okay Nick. Now we've come to know that you think God has two opposing wills, that He is not a person, and that it is possible for Him to be with Himself.

Nice doctrine you have going there.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You claim to know the Spirit of God.
Do you know them both in the Spirit?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,19:34)

Hi t, You set yourself up as an arbiter of truth, But truth seems to linger lightly on your tongue while judgement rules. What gives?

N

I have to say you have a sharp tongue but not for truth in scriptures why is that ?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
You think you can judge others when your foundation is really theology?

[Frank4YAHWEH]

To ALL,

Father Yahweh's word is not a separate being apart from Himself that existed with Him in the beginning.

http://frank4yahweh.xanga.com/757140248/who-is-the-word

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