Preexistence

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,10:40)

Hi 94, Does scripture say so? How can I answer if it doesn't?

Hi Nick:

I just gave you some scriptures which indicate that he is a living person, but I know that he is a living person because I fellowship with Him every day. He is my heavenly Father, and I love Him and He loves me.

Do I need a dictionary to tell me who He is when I have a personal relationship with Him?

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,17:40)

Hi 94, Does scripture say so? How can I answer if it doesn't?

N

this is because of your lack of understanding

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Perhaps but I do not think you should judge.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,17:52)

Hi MB, So two more can establish a fact. 2Cor 13.1

N

nick you are that witness and can not even understand it

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:11)

Hi T, Perhaps but I do not think you should judge.

N

would I have used Paul approached you are on milk

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Why do you not focus on the joy of learning instead of casting stones?
Are you so insecure that it is now your only enjoyment?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,17:52)

Hi MB, So two more can establish a fact. 2Cor 13.1

Nick,

(1) Soul, like spirit, has various shades of meaning in the Old Testament, which may be summarized as follows: “Soul,” “living being,” “life,” “self,” “person,” “desire,” “appetite,” “emotion” and “passion”.

(3) By an easy transition the word comes to stand for the individual, personal life, the person, with two distinct shades of meaning which might best be indicated by the Latin anima and animus.

And every thesaurous I checked has “person” listed as a synonym of “soul”.

So add that to the other scripture Marty listed, and you have your two that establish the fact.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:16)

Hi T, Why do you not focus on the joy of learning instead of casting stones? Are you so insecure that it is now your only enjoyment?

N

you keep using the same words all the time ,to justify your lack of answering questions

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Patchwork scriptures do not establish anything.
Similes are not witnesses.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
But the WORD is indeed the IMAGE of our God.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:31)

Hi MB, But the WORD is indeed the IMAGE of our God.

N

do you mean Christ or the spoken words that he said

[mikeboll64]

Nick,

Does God have two opposing wills? YES or NO?

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,10:25)

Ed, it works just fine.  Jesus is no longer a human being, but back in the form of God again. Is God a person, Ed?

Hi Mike,

God is an “entity”.
A person is “human”.
Look up these words.

Since we all speak English, we should
all be using the standardized definitions.

Unlike Jack, who wants to apply a different meaning to the word “Being”.
Or Gene, who wants to apply a different meaning to the words “Free Will”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
OPPOSING?
The son of God obeyed God in everything.

“Not my will but thine be done”

The Word shows how the Son of God also could also be the servant of God.

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,18:38)

Hi MB, OPPOSING? The son of God obeyed God in everything. “Not my will but thine be done” The Word shows how the Son of God also could also be the servant of God.

N

Quote

The son of God obeyed God in everything.

how can someone obey God if he does not know him

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes and you can know THEM too.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,18:38)

Hi MB, OPPOSING? The son of God obeyed God in everything. “Not my will but thine be done” The Word shows how the Son of God also could also be the servant of God.

And therein lies your problem, Nick.

If this was the Word/Spirit/God Himself speaking THROUGH Jesus of Nazareth in John 6:38, then “NOT my will, BUT yours” indicates TWO opposing wills.

Does God have two opposing wills?

Had it truly been God speaking through Jesus, it would have went more like “I came to do my will”. God cannot say “Not MY will, but MY will be done”.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 04 2012,18:37)

God is an “entity”. A person is “human”. Look up these words.

BEING
Definition: animate object

Synonyms:

animal, beast, body, conscious thing, creature, entity , human, human being, individual, living thing, mortal, organism, person, personage, soul, thing

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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,18:37)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,10:25) Ed, it works just fine.  Jesus is no longer a human being, but back in the form of God again. Is God a person, Ed? Hi Mike, God is an “entity”. A person is “human”. Look up these words. Since we all speak English, we should all be using the standardized definitions. Unlike Jack, who wants to apply a different meaning to the word “Being”. Or Gene, who wants to apply a different meaning to the words “Free Will”. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

World English Dictionary
person (ˈpɜːs ə n)

— n , pl persons
1.an individual human being
2.the body of a human being, sometimes including his or her clothing: guns hidden on his person
3.a grammatical category into which pronouns and forms of verbs are subdivided depending on whether they refer to the speaker, the person addressed, or some other individual, thing, etc
4.a human being or a corporation recognized in law as having certain rights and obligations
5.philosophy a being characterized by consciousness, rationality, and a moral sense, and traditionally thought of as consisting of both a body and a mind or soul
6.archaic a character or role; guise
7.

Person (ˈpɜːs ə n)

— n
Christianity any of the three hypostases existing as distinct in the one God and constituting the Trinity. They are the First Person, the Father, the Second Person, the Son, and the Third Person, the Holy Ghost

is this enough ?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Opposition is proven by actions.
The Word never came to do his own will.
He came to do the will of His Father Who sent Him.
Your theological derivations should not be your foundations

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