Preexistence

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
You said
“but why are you try to split God s being and his spirit (soul)or his will or character ,??? “

Now that was silly

[mikeboll64]

John 6:38 (New International Version 1984)

38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

According to Nick, the spirit of Christ said these words. But according to Nick, the spirit of Christ is part of the Spirit of God, which was the Word of God, which is God Himself.

But for the spirit of Christ to say it came to do God's will instead of ITS OWN WILL, is to say the spirit of Christ is a being separate from God, complete with its own will, agenda, mind, etc.

Any comments?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,14:24)

Hi T, You said “but why are you try to split God s being and his spirit (soul)or his will or character ,??? “ Now that was silly

N

maybe but that is what you are doing with your comments

go and see back up a few quotes of yours

[NickHassan]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2012,10:16)

John 6:38 (New International Version 1984) 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. According to Nick, the spirit of Christ said these words.  But according to Nick, the spirit of Christ is part of the Spirit of God, which was the Word of God, which is God Himself. But for the spirit of Christ to say it came to do God's will instead of ITS OWN WILL, is to say the spirit of Christ is a being separate from God, complete with its own will, agenda, mind, etc. Any comments?

Hi MB,
The Word is the Spirit of Christ IMO.

Is it from dark theology you draw conclusions about WILL defining a separate being?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,17:31)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2012,10:16) John 6:38 (New International Version 1984) 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. According to Nick, the spirit of Christ said these words.  But according to Nick, the spirit of Christ is part of the Spirit of God, which was the Word of God, which is God Himself. But for the spirit of Christ to say it came to do God's will instead of ITS OWN WILL, is to say the spirit of Christ is a being separate from God, complete with its own will, agenda, mind, etc. Any comments? Hi MB, The Word is the Spirit of Christ IMO. Is it from dark theology you draw conclusions about WILL defining a separate being?

N

Jn 3:27 To this John replied, “A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.
Jn 3:28 You yourselves can testify that I said, ‘I am not the Christ but am sent ahead of him.’
Jn 3:29 The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him, and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete.
Jn 3:30 He must become greater; I must become less.
Jn 3:31 “The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2012,17:31)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2012,10:16) John 6:38 (New International Version 1984) 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. According to Nick, the spirit of Christ said these words.  But according to Nick, the spirit of Christ is part of the Spirit of God, which was the Word of God, which is God Himself. But for the spirit of Christ to say it came to do God's will instead of ITS OWN WILL, is to say the spirit of Christ is a being separate from God, complete with its own will, agenda, mind, etc. Any comments? Hi MB, The Word is the Spirit of Christ IMO. Is it from dark theology you draw conclusions about WILL defining a separate being?

Nick,

For something or someone to have a will of its own, it must be an individual entity/being.

Do you know of an exception?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Should we work from logic or theology?
Surely God is allowed to be different than created nature?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,18:27)

Hi MB, Should we work from logic or theology? Surely God is allowed to be different than created nature?

N

were your ignorance takes you

[mikeboll64]

Yep.  I've hit the proverbial “brick wall” on this one, Pierre.  

Just as Kangaroo Jack is willing to claim that he and his dad are the same exact being to keep his doctrine alive, Nick is now willing to claim that one being can have multiple wills.    He is willing to claim that one being can be SENT by himself.  

Nick, is there really reason to discuss it further?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Yes theology will only take us a small distance into the nature of our God.
All will be revealed.

But stating that another BEING was with God is going beyond what is revealed.
We are not allowed to do that.

[mikeboll64]

Nick, one being cannot possibly be WITH itself. God is not the God of confusion.

Nick, how do you address the scriptures that say all things were created through the Son of God?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Again you have vaulted into the murk of logic.
God is not necessarily going to fit in your little boxes

Even the highest heaven cannot hold him[2Chr]

[mikeboll64]

Goodbye Nick. I've wasted way too much of my time on you already.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Yes you need a retreat
Your theological confines will eventually break
You shall be free indeed

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,18:39)

Hi MB, Again you have vaulted into the murk of logic. God is not necessarily going to fit in your little boxes Even the highest heaven cannot hold him[2Chr]

N

you are definitely blind to the word of God ,

you have enough knowledge to barely understand what any religion can understand provided it is in their own language ,but understand the truth of it ,you do not have.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
It was always your thoughts.
Listen

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,18:50)

Hi T, It was always your thoughts. Listen

N

we done

[Proclaimer]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,13:31)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 02 2012,10:16) John 6:38 (New International Version 1984) 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. According to Nick, the spirit of Christ said these words.  But according to Nick, the spirit of Christ is part of the Spirit of God, which was the Word of God, which is God Himself. But for the spirit of Christ to say it came to do God's will instead of ITS OWN WILL, is to say the spirit of Christ is a being separate from God, complete with its own will, agenda, mind, etc. Any comments? Hi MB, The Word is the Spirit of Christ IMO. Is it from dark theology you draw conclusions about WILL defining a separate being?

I haven't been keeping up with this, but Nick you give your opinion and then say that Mike's opinion is from from dark theology.

I guess that all opinions are not the same. Is one opinion better than another, well yes. But by reason of them being opinions, you cannot know for sure which is better. After all is that not what an opinion is?

IMO, there is fact/truth and opinion. Opinions could be fact and true, but remain opinions because of lack of support or proof.

[Proclaimer]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2012,10:53)

Quote (t8 @ Mar. 01 2012,07:18) Nick is Jesus the flesh or that which resided in the flesh. Hi T8, Jesus before the Jordan is soul and spirit in the flesh. Jesus CHRIST is the ANOINTED man-Son of God. Made one with The Spirit of God-the WORD

OK, I agree with this, but am not sure about the last part.

To help me understand your view, do you think that the rhema is of the logos?

Also if the word of God is living, active and sharper than any double-edged sword to the point where it can penetrates the divide of the soul and spirit, then does that mean in your view is that saying that the Spirit can penetrate spirit?

Thanks in advance.

[NickHassan]

Hi T8,
The Spirit of God even can discern between the soul and the spirit of man.
The written word is of the Spirit and powerful.

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