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[terraricca]

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Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2012,09:28) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,16:05) Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2012,08:58) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,02:54) Hi T8, Please do: understanding that “The Word” is God's “HolySpirit”. (see 1John 1:1-5 and Isaiah 63:2-14) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org If so, then is the sword of the Spirit the word of the Word? I haven't seen you explain this one Edj. Hi T8, Certainly the WORD spoke words of power. N show scriptures terraricca, Maybe you can show us some Scripture showing us that the words that Yahshua spoke were rather weak?

Frank

to show scriptures to you and nick and edj,is like showing video clips you look at it and your brain as done all the viewing to establish how you going to change it as per your own understanding ,scriptures or not your view is killing you and you do not see it ,Jn 3:12 I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe,

how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

answer Jesus questions

[NickHassan]

Hi 94.
The Spirit in Elijah was the same as in John
but Jesus was anointed with the Word
yet both share the Spirit of God

[942767]

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Hi 94. The Spirit in Elijah was the same as in John but Jesus was anointed with the Word yet both share the Spirit of God

Hi Nick:

The Spirit of God is God's Spirit and yes, he spoke to humanity through the prophets by His Spirit and has in these last days spoken to us by His Son. What he spoke to humanity through the prophets and through His Son is His Word.

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1Cr 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 1Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

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Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. Jhn 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
Yes it is all ONE SPIRIT
1Cor 12.4

[Frank4YAHWEH]

To ALL,

Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”?

[942767]

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Hi 94, Yes it is all ONE SPIRIT 1Cor 12.4

Hi Nick:

If the Holy Spirit is God's Spirit, and the Word that he speaks are spirit and they are life, then it is one spirit like this:

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Jhn 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 26 2012,19:50)

To ALL, Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”?

Don't you have a post you should be addressing?

[Frank4YAHWEH]

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Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 26 2012,19:50) To ALL, Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”? Don't you have a post you should be addressing?

Mike,

I believe I have already addressed all posts directed to me. Now, would you care to address the following question that I asked:

Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”?

[NickHassan]

Hi 94,
One but different.
Jesus Christ in God and God in Him.
We do bring our differences to Christ Jesus and become one with him in God.

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2012,10:14)

Bump for Frank – from the top post of page 313: Frank, I would like to see your DIRECT response to t8's excellent point that if John was informed in his revelation that Jesus is CALLED “the Word of God”, is it so far of a stretch to believe that John, later when he wrote his gospel, actually CALLED Jesus “the Word of God”? Your info mentioned Hagyah [Haggai]: meaning – 'Feast of Yahweh', right?  Consider: Ezra 5:1 Now Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the prophet, a descendant of Iddo, prophesied to the Jews in Judah and Jerusalem in the name of the God of Israel, who was over them. Do you understand Ezra to be saying a literal “feast of Yahweh” prophesied to the Jews?  Or do you understand that it was the PERSON called by the name “feast of Yahweh” who did the prophesying? If you can understand that the PERSON whose name is called “feast of Yahweh” prophesied to the Jews, then why can't you understand that the PERSON whose name is called “the Word of God” is the one who was with God in the beginning?

Mike,

If you are speaking of this post that you directed to me, then my question and your answer is in fact directly related to what you believe to be 't8's excellent point that if John was informed in his revelation that Jesus is CALLED “the Word of God”, is it so far of a stretch to believe that John, later when he wrote his gospel, actually CALLED Jesus “the Word of God”?'

I in fact do not believe that t8's post is an excellent point” as you do, since I do not believe that Yahchanan is the author of the so-called “Book of John”, but I do believe that he is the author of Revelation.

As for the rest of your post, I have no idea why you would ask such a question of me, since I am not the one who believes “that the PERSON whose name is called “the Word of God” is the one who was with God in the beginning”. It is you and t8 who believes this foolishness, not I!

[NickHassan]

Hi Frank,
John was the one who recorded the deeply spiritual Jn 14-16
He understood the Spirit defined the vessel.

[942767]

Hi Nick:

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Jhn 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Jhn 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. Jhn 17:18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. Jhn 17:19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

Every member of the body has a different function but the word of God abiding in His children is the same spirit. The spirit of love.

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Jhn 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Jhn 4:24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[terraricca]

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As for the rest of your post, I have no idea why you would ask such a question of me, since I am not the one who believes “that the PERSON whose name is called “the Word of God” is the one who was with God in the beginning”. It is you and t8 who believes this foolishness, not I!

I do believe this is true ,;1CO 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS”;

what you believe is of not importance to me ,but what scriptures says that is what is true and truth

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 27 2012,13:30)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2012,13:21) Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 26 2012,19:50) To ALL, Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”? Don't you have a post you should be addressing? Mike, I believe I have already addressed all posts directed to me. Now, would you care to address the following question that I asked: Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”?

Mike,

Don't you and ALL here have a post you should be addressing?

Again …

To ALL,

Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”?

Also take into consideration the following:

If Yahchanan [John] truly is the author of this book, then why is the following verse which is from the beginning of this book written in such a manner:

There came a man who was sent from Yahweh; his name was Yahchanan (Yahchanan [John] 1:6).

If Yahchanan truly is the author of this book, would he not have written it more in the following manner?:

'I was sent by Yahweh and my name is Yahchanan.'

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,14:17)

Hi Frank, John was the one who recorded the deeply spiritual Jn 14-16 He understood the Spirit defined the vessel.

Nick,

Then you should take into consideration my last post and please explain to be why it was written in such a manner if he truly is the author of this book.

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 27 2012,14:38)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,14:17) Hi Frank, John was the one who recorded the deeply spiritual Jn 14-16 He understood the Spirit defined the vessel. Nick, Then you should take into consideration my last post and please explain to be why it was written in such a manner if he truly is the author of this book.

*me

[NickHassan]

Hi Frank,
We must align with those who are more spiritual, like John, and not vice versa.

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,14:39)

Hi Frank, We must align with those who are more spiritual, like John, and not vice versa.

Nick,

I can not see how this is an explanation to the previous question that I have posed. Could you please explain to me more in depth why you believe that it is?

[NickHassan]

Hi Frank
God wrote it.[2peter]
The vessel who recorded it was John.
We should let God speak and not let men get in the way too much.

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“Before Abraham, I am” said Jesus Christ.

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