Preexistence

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  • #280861
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    There was no spirit of Adam before creation

    #280864
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The Spirit of Christ is the image of God.
    That Spirit, one with and of the Spirit of God, is how Jesus related to God.

    #280866
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 27 2012,05:22)
    In fact, Jesus is and was God's main spokesman.  That is why he alone is called “the Word of God” in Rev 19:13, John 1:1, and 1:14.  :)

    P.S.  There is a question waiting at the top of this page for you, Nick.  Please DIRECTLY answer it.


    Hi Mike,

                       “The Word” is the HolySpirit

    “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time
    past unto the fathers by (his HolySpirit through) the prophets, Hath in
    these last days spoken unto us by (his HolySpirit in) his Son” (Hebrews 1:1-2)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #280868
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Of course the Spirit of Christ was before Abraham.
    The Spirit of Christ was in those prophets.[1Peter 1]

    #280885
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2012,15:22)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 26 2012,14:10)
    “And he wore a garment soaked with blood, and his name is called The Word of God.”


    Hence we call him the Word of God.

    If you agree that he is called the Word of God, then let's call him the Word of God. If we call him the Word of God then why oppose us for that?


    t8,

    Yahshua's name/title is called “The Word of Yahweh” because he is the spokesman of his and our Father Yahweh's word in this last time period, but he is not LITERALLY the word of Yahweh and did not pre-exist his birth as the word of his and our Father Yahweh and he most certainly was not a creator or a co-creator with his and our Father Yahweh in the beginning.

    Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

    #280890
    NickHassan
    Participant

    So you say Frank

    #280908
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 27 2012,06:56)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 26 2012,15:22)

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 26 2012,14:10)
    “And he wore a garment soaked with blood, and his name is called The Word of God.”


    Hence we call him the Word of God.

    If you agree that he is called the Word of God, then let's call him the Word of God. If we call him the Word of God then why oppose us for that?


    t8,

    Yahshua's name/title is called “The Word of Yahweh” because he is the spokesman of his and our Father Yahweh's word in this last time period, but he is not LITERALLY the word of Yahweh and did not pre-exist his birth as the word of his and our Father Yahweh and he most certainly was not a creator or a co-creator with his and our Father Yahweh in the beginning.

    Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

    The Sword Of The Spirit IS Father Yahweh's Word

    … and the sword of the Spirit, which IS the word of Yahweh (Ephesians 6:17.

    … and OUT OF HIS MOUTH CAME a sharp double-edged sword … (Revelation 1-16).

    OUT OF HIS MOUTH COMES a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of Yahweh Almighty (Revelation 19:15).

    He who has an ear, LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS to the assemblies. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death…. THESE ARE THE WORDS OF HIM WHO HAS [not “IS”] the sharp, double-edged sword (Revelation 2:11-12).

    Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

    #280913
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,06:59)
    So you say Frank


    Nick,

    Yes, I did say this. It certainly was not someone else who posted this. :D

    #280955
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Frank, we call Jesus the Word of God. Do you?

    #280960
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,02:54)
    Hi T8,

    Please do: understanding that “The Word” is God's “HolySpirit”. (see 1John 1:1-5 and Isaiah 63:2-14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If so, then is the sword of the Spirit the word of the Word?
    I haven't seen you explain this one Edj.

    #280961
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2012,08:53)
    Frank, we call Jesus the Word of God. Do you?


    t8,

    I agree that Yahshua's name/title is called “The Word of Yahweh”. What I do not agree with is that Yahshua IS LITERALLY the word of Yahweh that pre-existed with Him in the beginning as an actual being and that he was a creator or a co-creator with Him. I have clearly made this known in my previous posts that you have so conveniently ignored.

    #280970
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2012,08:58)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,02:54)
    Hi T8,

    Please do: understanding that “The Word” is God's “HolySpirit”. (see 1John 1:1-5 and Isaiah 63:2-14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If so, then is the sword of the Spirit the word of the Word?
    I haven't seen you explain this one Edj.


    Hi T8,
    Certainly the WORD spoke words of power.

    #280980
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,16:05)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2012,08:58)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,02:54)
    Hi T8,

    Please do: understanding that “The Word” is God's “HolySpirit”. (see 1John 1:1-5 and Isaiah 63:2-14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If so, then is the sword of the Spirit the word of the Word?
    I haven't seen you explain this one Edj.


    Hi T8,
    Certainly the WORD spoke words of power.


    N

    show scriptures

    #280983
    Frank4YAHWEH
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 27 2012,09:28)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,16:05)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2012,08:58)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,02:54)
    Hi T8,

    Please do: understanding that “The Word” is God's “HolySpirit”. (see 1John 1:1-5 and Isaiah 63:2-14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If so, then is the sword of the Spirit the word of the Word?
    I haven't seen you explain this one Edj.


    Hi T8,
    Certainly the WORD spoke words of power.


    N

    show scriptures


    terraricca,

    Maybe you can show us some Scripture showing us that the words that Yahshua spoke were rather weak? ???

    #280985
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 27 2012,11:59)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2012,08:53)
    Frank, we call Jesus the Word of God. Do you?


    t8,

    I agree that Yahshua's name/title is called “The Word of Yahweh”. What I do not agree with is that Yahshua IS LITERALLY the word of Yahweh that pre-existed with Him in the beginning as an actual being and that he was a creator or a co-creator with Him. I have clearly made this known in my previous posts that you have so conveniently ignored.


    So Frank.

    Just as Jesus was called the Truth and the Messiah, he is also the Word of God.

    So we call him the Word of God and there is a reason he has that name as you say because the sword proceeds from his mouth.

    #280989
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Nick,

    This is what I posted to you:

    Quote (mikeboll @ 64)
    Nick, I would like to see your DIRECT response to t8's excellent explanation about “I am”.  Do you assert that Jesus was talking about HIMSELF for many sentences, and then all of a sudden, on the last sentence, God overtook his words to claim the obvious that He (God) existed before Abraham?  YES or NO?

    And this is what you responded with:

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2012,12:56)
    Hi MB,
    The Spirit of Christ is the image of God.
    That Spirit, one with and of the Spirit of God, is how Jesus related to God.

    I want to know if you think Jesus spoke many sentences about HIMSELF in John 8, and at the last minute, in the last sentence, God took over and spoke the “I am” sentence through Jesus.

    Nick, is this what you think happened or not?

    #280991
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Bump for Frank – from the top post of page 313:

    Frank, I would like to see your DIRECT response to t8's excellent point that if John was informed in his revelation that Jesus is CALLED “the Word of God”, is it so far of a stretch to believe that John, later when he wrote his gospel, actually CALLED Jesus “the Word of God”?

    Your info mentioned Hagyah [Haggai]: meaning – 'Feast of Yahweh', right?  Consider:
    Ezra 5:1
    Now Haggai the prophet and Zechariah the prophet, a descendant of Iddo, prophesied to the Jews in Judah and Jerusalem in the name of the God of Israel, who was over them.

    Do you understand Ezra to be saying a literal “feast of Yahweh” prophesied to the Jews?  Or do you understand that it was the PERSON called by the name “feast of Yahweh” who did the prophesying?

    If you can understand that the PERSON whose name is called “feast of Yahweh” prophesied to the Jews, then why can't you understand that the PERSON whose name is called “the Word of God” is the one who was with God in the beginning?

    #280992
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,12:05)

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2012,08:58)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 27 2012,02:54)
    Hi T8,

    Please do: understanding that “The Word” is God's “HolySpirit”. (see 1John 1:1-5 and Isaiah 63:2-14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    If so, then is the sword of the Spirit the word of the Word?
    I haven't seen you explain this one Edj.


    Hi T8,
    Certainly the WORD spoke words of power.


    So your view is also that both the spirit and the sword means “word” thus the sword of the spirit is the word of the Word.

    OK.

    #281030
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2012,14:22)
    Hi 94,
    Jesus CHRIST was in the form of God-as the WORD


    Hi Nick:

    Jesus was in the form of God beginning with his ministry here on earth as God's Christ.

    Quote
    Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

    Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Quote
    Mar 2:6 But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,

    Mar 2:7 Why doth this [man] thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?

    Mar 2:8 And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?

    Mar 2:9 Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, [Thy] sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?

    Mar 2:10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)

    Mar 2:11 I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.

    Mar 2:12 And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #281031
    942767
    Participant

    Hi Nick:

    You say:

    Quote
    The Spirit of God is one but in many forms

    What do you mean by this?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

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