Preexistence

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,16:49)

Hi T, Left to his own resources man can read the bible and gain some understanding. But the inner witness of the Spirit Who wrote it through men gives light.

Nick

what make you understand that it is you and not me that have the spirit ??

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Who said that?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 22 2012,17:46)

Hi T, Who said that?

You say it all the time, Nick.

When you say, “You need spirit to discern it”, or something equally condescending, you are really saying, “I can discern it, because I have spirit. You can't yet discern it, because you don't.”

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Really?

[mikeboll64]

I noticed that you didn't actually DENY my claim.

[NickHassan]

Back to the topic then?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,18:32)

Back to the topic then?

N;

and so you leave me in the dark ?

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Is that where you stand?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,19:17)

Hi T, Is that where you stand?

NO

[Frank4YAHWEH]

There are some 107 inspired and prophetic verses and passages in Scripture from where we are to get our doctrine for reproof and correction and instruction in righteousness that SAY and PROCLAIM that FATHER Yahweh “ALONE”, “BY HIMSELF” and with “NO ONE BESIDE HIM” created the heavens and the earth and ALL things in them and not one single verse or passage as witness that His SON Yahshua pre-existed his birth or created ANYTHING.

Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

[NickHassan]

Yes Frank,
God did it by His Spirit. Ps 104

[NickHassan]

Hi Frank,
If they understood that the Word was God and was with God then the confusion would clear.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 24 2012,12:20)

There are some 107 inspired and prophetic verses and passages in Scripture from where we are to get our doctrine for reproof and correction and instruction in righteousness that SAY and PROCLAIM that FATHER Yahweh “ALONE”, “BY HIMSELF” and with “NO ONE BESIDE HIM” created the heavens and the earth and ALL things in them and not one single verse or passage as witness that His SON Yahshua pre-existed his birth or created ANYTHING.

And I agree with every one of them, Frank. How does that change the fact that Jesus pre-existed his flesh?

God created my son ALONE, BY HIMSELF, AND WITH NO ONE BESIDE HIM – yet He created my son THROUGH me and his mother.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,12:36)

Hi Frank, If they understood that the Word was God and was with God then the confusion would clear.

God Almighty cannot be WITH Himself, Nick.  It is you who is confused.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Yes you cannot grasp the relationship between God and His Spirit.

[Frank4YAHWEH]

I have yet to see Nick or anyone here ever say “God Almighty [was] WITH Himself!”

Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His Birth?

[mikeboll64]

The who was the Word that was WITH God in the beginning?

Nick says the Word WAS God. And I say God cannot be WITH God. What have you been taught by your many unscriptural sources, Frank?

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 19 2012,11:55)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 19 2012,17:44) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 19 2012,13:37) Hi T, So all these were of his own human nature? Why would you demean the work of God? Acts 10.38 “How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and power;who went about doing good and healing all that were oppressed by the devil; for God was with him” Nick was this not after his resurrection ? Nick

Hi T,
No he went about doing good and healing after the Jordan.

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sorry nick but Act 10;38 is after the resurrection of Christ

Hi Pierre,

This was before Jesus' resurrection, but after Jesus' baptism at Jordan.

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolSpirit and with power: who
went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Scripture says “the Word WAS God”
Argue with scripture if you must.

[Frank4YAHWEH]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 25 2012,07:36)

The who was the Word that was WITH God in the beginning? Nick says the Word WAS God.  And I say God cannot be WITH God.  What have you been taught by your many unscriptural sources, Frank?

Mike,

So, you believe that Father Yahweh's word is a “who” as a separate being that exist apart from Him, but with Him? Now, who do you say that is confused here?

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