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Irene said she was glad ONLY people who believed had been posting here. Ed said, “Not true”. Ed, what non-preexister had posted here at the time Irene said that?
And why would it matter anyway? She said, “I'm happy”, and it seemed to me like you went out of your way to stomp on that happiness and start a disagreement.
One of us is reading something wrong here Ed.
mike
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2010,17:14) Quote (Baker @ Nov. 07 2010,06:29) This tread has been amazing, because only those who believe that Christ preexisted have posted here….. Good job to all, Peace and Love Irene
Hi Irene,False!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Mike,I believe in preexistence as well, and
(at that point) I hadn't Posted yet.
Just setting the record straight;
that's all. No harm, no foul.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou knucklehead!
She wasn't saying all the pre-existers HAD posted, only that it was ONLY pre-existers who had! 
peace and love to you my friend,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 25 2010,13:29) You knucklehead! She wasn't saying all the pre-existers HAD posted, only that it was ONLY pre-existers who had! peace and love to you my friend,
mike
Oh? Sorry!John 8:12 NIV
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”John 9:5 NIV
While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”CURRENTLY 47 SCRIPTURES.
MIKE………… JESUS Also said your are the light of the World , and you don't put a candle under a bed or a basket but out where everyone can see it and said so let your light so shine. But you preexistences keep trying to separate Jesus from pour likeness trying to make him different , when in fact we are (exactly like Him) It is not wounder the Greater Miracles He said we could do not happen because you destory Faith by setting Jesus as something different then us and by doing that you cause people to doubt their exactness with Jesus and their (EXACT) Relationship with the Father. You make Jesus the object of all things not the FATHER you do not realize we are called to the (EXACTNESS) of Jesus our Brother and OUR Faith can be the SAME as His if we understand our identity with Him as a Brother . It is no wonder Jesus said “WHEN THE SON OF MAN RETURNS WILL HE FIND (FAITH) ON THE EARTH”, it is these false teaching of the preexistences and trinitarians that completely destory Faith of People in GOD the FATHER.
It does not surprise me when hardly no one here talks of any Miricales being done in their lives here, because of the lack of true Faith in GOD the FATHER, Who is the ONLY MIRACLE WORKER. So i agree with what Jesus said about Faith on the earth when he returns. Trinitarians and Preexistences have totally corrupted the Faith, by their false teaching of SEPARATION, OF JESUS WITH OUR IDENTITY. IMO
peace and love…………………………………………..gene
Yes Gene, blah, blah, blah. Answer it in my post to Kerwin in the pre-existent thread. I explain the fact that Jesus also said his disciples were the “light of the world”.
mike
Mike………..You good at distorting the truth , you first say and imply Jesus is the ONLY Light of the World them when shown We are called light of the word two, then you Bla bla bla it and say i have already addressed that to, but in you post you deceive people into thinking (only) Jesus is the Light of the world. Then when confronted you downplay it . You are a joke at best, You totally fail to see the corruption you teach Mike. IMO
peace and love………………………………………….gene
I “teach” what the scriptures say Gene. Nothing more and nothing less. Try that sometime. Try “teaching” scriptures without the “It says THIS, but it really means THAT” crap.
Do that, and you'll come around alright.
mike
Mike……….You do not teach what scripture say you zero in on a single word and try to build a teaching on that taking it completely out of context. If you would think a person can zero in on one word and would a teaching around that you are sadly mistaking , As is said before “you Strain out a gnat and swallow a Camel “, and elephant in you case. You even use a word like “THROUGH” which is translated 50 or more different was in scripture, and try to pass that off a a proof that GOD created every thing through Jesus and even Angles also. Talk about screw up, man how much more could a person be messed up then that? And when we produced Scriptures that (PLAINLY) said GOD created every the BY (HIMSELF) and (ALONE) Now “ALONE” Mean no one else had anything to do with IT. Why did not GOD say he did it THROUGH anyone if that were the case as up suppose it is. You preexistences and Trinitarians are bold and arrogant you think you can just ignore all the texts in our bible and build you own religion on it. But a time will come when we must all answer for what we preach and teach. All Antichrists will recieve their just dues in that day. IMO
gene
Gene:
Quote Mike……….You do not teach what scripture say you zero in on a single word and try to build a teaching on that taking it completely out of context.
No Gene. I “zero in” on ALL OF THE WORDS.We read that “the Word became flesh”. You read “the Word came to be IN flesh”. We read, “the glory I HAD in your presence”. You read, “the glory you had waiting for me since I was a thought in your head in your presence.”
You see Gene, it's only when you do assinine things like this that we have to “zero in” on the words to show you they DON'T say what your imagination thinks they should say.
Phil 2 says that Jesus was in the form of God, emptied himself, and was made in the likeness of a human being. That's what ALL THE WORDS say Gene. It's only when you start changing and adding and omitting some of those words that we feel it necessary to “zero in” on them and make you read it the way it's written – not the way you WANT it to be written.
Gene:
Quote As is said before “you Strain out a gnat and swallow a Camel
Are you sure I don't strain out a gnat and swallow a ROPE? Jesus sure liked using “camels” in his analogies, didn't he? Gene:
Quote Now “ALONE” Mean no one else had anything to do with IT. Why did not GOD say he did it THROUGH anyone if that were the case as up suppose it is.
You tell me Gene. In fact, tell me who God was talking to when He said, “Let US create man in OUR image”.mike
1 John 1:1 NIV
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.Mike
i found one more;Eze 1:28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him.
This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking.we know that Christ is the glory of God
Pierre
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2010,04:39) T8……Both the first three verses you quoted show position and authority (ONLY) they do not Change Jesus Identity FROM Us as a Human Being who came into existence at His berth on earth. The last has nothing to do with Jesus it is talking about the ATTRIBUTE OF WISDOM, being (PERSONIFIED) ,and even is being personified as a SHE, and we all know Jesus is a HE.
Can't you see the extent of the ingratiating of those (SEPARATISTS) teaching have taken hold of you brother?
peace and love…………………………………gene
Hbr 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.How could God have brought in the first begotten into the world, if he wasn't begotten yet?
And don't tell me he was begotten in God's mind/intellect.Georg
I didn't see the Scripture that tell us without a shadow of doubt that Jesus is “The Word of God in John 1:1 that is
Rev 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
Rev 19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
Gene since you always say that John 1:1 is God's Word, who fits this description in Rev.19
??Ed! I did not know that you too believe in the preexisting of Jesus, welcome on board…..
Thanks Mike………
Peace and Love Irene
John 3:31 NIV
The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.Hebrews 1:6 NWT
But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.”
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