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These scriptures that teach the pre-existence of Jesus have been compiled by Irene (Baker), Pierre (Terrarica), Wm (Seeking Truth), Mike (mikeboll64) and t8.
There are currently 48 scriptures or passages listed.
Proverbs 8:22-31 NIV
22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
23 I was formed long ages ago,
at the very beginning, when the world came to be.
24 When there were no watery depths, I was given birth,
when there were no springs overflowing with water;
25 before the mountains were settled in place,
before the hills, I was given birth,
26 before he made the world or its fields
or any of the dust of the earth.
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place,
when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above
and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary
so the waters would not overstep his command,
and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was constantly at his side.
I was filled with delight day after day,
rejoicing always in his presence,
31 rejoicing in his whole world
and delighting in mankind.Proverbs 30:4 NIV
4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Whose hands have gathered up the wind?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is the name of his son?
Surely you know!Micah 5:2 NIV
2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”Isaiah 11:1 NIV
A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.Isaiah 11:10 NIV
In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.Matthew 22:41-46 NIV
41While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42″What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?”
“The son of David,” they replied.
43He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'Lord'? For he says,
44″ 'The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.” ' 45If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?” 46No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.Matthew 23:37 NIV
37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.John 1:1-3 NWT
In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in [the] beginning with God. 3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.John 1:9-12 NIV
9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—John 1:14 NIV
14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.John 1:15 NWT
15 (John bore witness about him, yes, he actually cried out—this was the one who said [it]—saying: “The one coming behind me has advanced in front of me, because he existed before me.”)John 3:13 NIV
13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.John 3:16-19 NIV
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.John 3:31 NIV
31The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.John 5:19-20 NIV
19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed.John 6:32-33 NIV
32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”John 6:35 NIV
35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty.John 6:38 NIV
38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.John 6:41-42 NIV
41 At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, “I am the bread that came down from heaven.” 42 They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”John 6:46 NIV
No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father.John 6:48-51 NIV
48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”John 6:62 NIV
62What if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before!John 8:12 NIV
When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”John 8:23 NIV
23 But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.John 8:38 NIV
38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.”John 8:42 NET
Jesus replied, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come from God and am now here. I have not come on my own initiative, but he sent me.”John 8:58 NWT
58 Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.”John 9:5 NIV
While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”John 13:3 NIV
Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God;John 16:28 NIV
“I came
from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.”John 17:5 NRSV
So now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had in your presence before the world existed.Romans 1:3 NIV
regarding his Son, who as to his human nature was a descendant of David,Romans 8:3 NIV
For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering.Romans 9:5 NASB
whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.1 Corinthians 8:6 NIV
6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.1 Corinthians 10:3-4 NIV
3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.1 Corinthians 11:3 NIV
3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.1 Corinthians 15:47 NIV
47The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.Galatians 4:4-5 NIV
4But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, 5to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons.Ephesians 4:9-10 NET
9 Now what is the meaning of “he ascended,” except that he also descended to the lower regions, namely, the earth?10 He, the very one who descended, is also the one who ascended above all the heavens, in order to fill all things.
Philippians 2:6-8 NIV
6 Who, being in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death—even death on a cross!
Colossians 1:15-17 NIV
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.1 Timothy 3:16 NWT
16 Indeed, the sacred secret of this godly devotion is admittedly great: ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in [the] world, was received up in glory.’Hebrews 1:1-2 NIV
1In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe.Hebrews 1:6 NWT
But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.”Hebrews 1:10 NIV
10He also says,
“In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.Hebrews 2:14 NIV
Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might break the power of him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil—Hebrews 10:5 NIV
5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;1 John 1:1 NIV
That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched—this we proclaim concerning the Word of life.1 John 2:12-13 NIV
12I write to you, dear children,
because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name.
13I write to you, fathers,
because you have known him who is from the beginning.1 John 4:9 NIV
In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.Jude 1:25 NIV
25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.Revelation 3:14 NWT
14 “And to the angel of the congregation in La‧o‧di‧ce′a write: These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God.Revelation 19:13 NIV
He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.Revelation 22:16 NIV
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”This tread has been amazing, because only those who believe that Christ preexisted have posted here…..
Good job to all, Peace and Love Irene
I agree Irene!
It's been a fun learning experience. And I know there are many more that we just haven't thought of yet.peace and love,
mikeNice topic. It is good to show just how many scriptures teach about Jesus origins.
When you see the sheer number of them, then it shows how hard it is to debunk them all.
You can always argue against a few, but trying to debunk all those scriptures, screams out that something is wrong.Colossians 1:17
He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.Jude 1:25
to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.1 Corinthians 11:3
Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.Proverbs 8:27-30
27 I was there when he set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep,
28 when he established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep,
29 when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
30 Then I was the craftsman at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence,T8……Both the first three verses you quoted show position and authority (ONLY) they do not Change Jesus Identity FROM Us as a Human Being who came into existence at His berth on earth.
The last has nothing to do with Jesus it is talking about the ATTRIBUTE OF WISDOM, being (PERSONIFIED) ,and even is being personified as a SHE, and we all know Jesus is a HE.
Can't you see the extent of the ingratiating of those (SEPARATISTS) teaching have taken hold of you brother?
peace and love…………………………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2010,11:39) T8……Both the first three verses you quoted show position and authority (ONLY) they do not Change Jesus Identity FROM Us as a Human Being who came into existence at His berth on earth. The last has nothing to do with Jesus it is talking about the ATTRIBUTE OF WISDOM, being (PERSONIFIED) ,and even is being personified as a SHE, and we all know Jesus is a HE.
Can't you see the extent of the ingratiating of those (SEPARATISTS) teaching have taken hold of you brother?
peace and love…………………………………gene
geneyou doing good you only have to go another 37 verses ,
so please so continuePierre
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 15 2010,05:45) gene you doing good you only have to go another 37 verses ,
so please so continuePierre
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2010,04:39) Both the first three verses you quoted show position and authority (ONLY)
Both means two and then you say three, so you made a mistake.
In that line, do you think that you also are making a mistake with the origins of the messiah, after all it is not like there are one or two scriptures that can be taken in a number of ways, rather there are 10s of scriptures that are quite clear.When you say it only means this or that, you are adding your own spin on it. It actually doesn't say what you say it is saying.
Proverbs 30:4 (New International Version)
4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Whose hands have gathered up the wind?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is the name of his son?
Surely you know!(Thanks for that one t8)
NASB Romans 9:5
whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.John 8:42 NET
Jesus replied, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come from God and am now here. I have not come on my own initiative, but he sent me.”
John 16:28 NIV
John 16:28
“I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father.”Nice scriptures.
It is amazing how many there are and even more amazing to think that anyone could change them all and for what?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2010,09:18) Proverbs 30:4 (New International Version) 4 Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Whose hands have gathered up the wind?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is the name of his son?
Surely you know!(Thanks for that one t8)
NASB Romans 9:5
whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.
Is it possible that this son is Israel?
I don't know.If it was, then it wasn't a very good question, was it?
Many knew the name of that “firstborn” – although I don't remember Israel being called his “son”, do you?T8
good scriptures,Israel?? no he was dead by that time that proverbs was written,if it would be the nation would it not be SONS ??
but it say SON so only one,
Pierre
hi all
I found one more;
Heb 10:5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;Pierre
Quote (Baker @ Nov. 07 2010,06:29) This tread has been amazing, because only those who believe that Christ preexisted have posted here….. Good job to all, Peace and Love Irene
Hi Irene,False!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Pierre,
Boy, that is a great one!
And Ed, when Irene posted that, it was true. Why are you picking a fight when there is none?
mike
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2010,13:30) Ed,
when Irene posted that, it was true. Why are you picking a fight when there is none?mike
Hi Mike,Are you claiming that I just recently began to believe in preexistence?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2010,01:16) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 24 2010,13:30) Ed,
when Irene posted that, it was true. Why are you picking a fight when there is none?mike
Hi Mike,Are you claiming that I just recently began to believe in preexistence?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edji did not know that you do not believe in the preexistence of Christ.this is new to me
Pierre
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