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  • #210981
    Stu
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    Quote (lineon @ April 30 2008,04:01)
    Hi Stuart
    You mean you do not know what makes a tree grow?

    Lineon.


    Hi Lineon

    If you agree with seek and you will find that tree growth is a miracle, then I think you perhaps do not understand it. You could say that, for example you are well-versed in the astonishingly complex process of photosynthesis, and even can appreciate some possible evolutionary routes by which that adaptation, critical to all animal life, came about. If there is a miracle in there, at what point does it need to be invoked? Do you need a god of the gaps to step in and be a placeholder for a proper explanation? Is our lack of knowledge a reason to invoke a supernatural being? On the subject of beauty, our view of tree growth is so much more beautiful that it was even in Medieval times. We are dumbstruck by the 'ingenuity' (and clumsiness) of natural selection in its discovered manner of feeding the planet. To me, the alternative 'god did it', no matter when you say it, is death to that beauty. There is no need for it; it is the antithesis to curiosity.

    Stuart

    #210982
    lineon
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ April 29 2008,22:12)

    Quote (lineon @ April 30 2008,04:01)
    Hi Stuart
    You mean you do not know what makes a tree grow?

    Lineon.


    Hi Lineon

    If you agree with seek and you will find that tree growth is a miracle, then I think you perhaps do not understand it.  You could say that, for example you are well-versed in the astonishingly complex process of photosynthesis, and even can appreciate some possible  evolutionary routes by which that adaptation, critical to all animal life, came about.  If there is a miracle in there, at what point does it need to be invoked?  Do you need a god of the gaps to step in and be a placeholder for a proper explanation?  Is our lack of knowledge a reason to invoke a supernatural being?  On the subject of beauty, our view of tree growth is so much more beautiful that it was even in Medieval times.  We are dumbstruck by the 'ingenuity' (and clumsiness) of natural selection in its discovered manner of feeding the planet.  To me, the alternative 'god did it', no matter when you say it, is death to that beauty.  There is no need for it; it is the antithesis to curiosity.

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart

    You have all the anglels coverd
    And I won't be able to fill in the gaps
    Nor give the alternative 'how God did it'

    What we are really talking about is
    Yes and No
    Black And White
    Yin and Yang

    My life with God is real
    Believing in 'This Awesome Power'
    Makes it nearly impossible to lie
    So – I am writing the truth.

    'This Awesome Power' welcomes you into His presence
    You feel touched you feel happy you feel lite
    Some just want to help be benevolent
    Others want to talk and debate about
    'This Awesome Power'
    I just want to be His friend
    And I am waiting for His return.

    You can twist my words to suit your view
    I could have filled in the gaps to suit my view.

    Lineon

    #210983
    Stu
    Participant

    Hi Lineon

    This thread is about poetry, and I think poetry should have beauty. I am trying to see how your god allows you to see beauty. I feel no blinkers, except the ultimate limitations of human senses and sensibilities. Science is beautiful. Scientists who are also religious believers would agree, I think. Christian belief (especially biblical belief) can only impose limits, and I think beauty is very much dimmed in that view of the world. Maybe the benefits you feel outweigh the costs. Why live in a black-and-white world when there is a glorious continuum of grey, and colour too?

    Stuart

    #210984
    charity
    Participant

    Turn around dear Stuart
    Let me remove the knives from your back
    Natures sure is beautiful
    On Gods behalf
    I don’t why “Christians” always have to appeal!
    Board of excise sustained!
    Due to exposing prophets!
    yet to be seen kicking reality completely unconscious.

    -charity

    #210985
    charity
    Participant

    Line on
    loveley as
    I can see
    your
    reaching deep into your soul

    charity

    #210986
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Hey Charity,

    Your avatar looks just like you!
    :;):

    #210987
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 01 2008,17:03)
    Hey Charity,

    Your avatar looks just like you!
    :;):


    :laugh: The “checks” in the male my friend

    #210988
    charity
    Participant

    The full of confidence
    self apointed translators
    Should you need to watch the surrounding steps
    those as a choice to use
    Don't dress yourseves in answers!
    When there is multiple mind and logical suggestions

    -charity

    #210989
    charity
    Participant
    #210990
    lineon
    Participant

    Quote (charity @ May 01 2008,00:52)
    Line on
    loveley as
    I can see
    your
    reaching deep into your soul

    charity


    Thanks Charity
    Your not doing so bad yourself!!

    'Don't dress yourself in answers!
    When there are multiple mind and logical suggestions'

    I definitely agree with you
    Very well put.

    Lineon

    #210991
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ April 30 2008,08:12)

    Quote (lineon @ April 30 2008,04:01)
    Hi Stuart
    You mean you do not know what makes a tree grow?

    Lineon.


    Hi Lineon

    If you agree with seek and you will find that tree growth is a miracle, then I think you perhaps do not understand it.  You could say that, for example you are well-versed in the astonishingly complex process of photosynthesis, and even can appreciate some possible  evolutionary routes by which that adaptation, critical to all animal life, came about.  If there is a miracle in there, at what point does it need to be invoked?  Do you need a god of the gaps to step in and be a placeholder for a proper explanation?  Is our lack of knowledge a reason to invoke a supernatural being?  On the subject of beauty, our view of tree growth is so much more beautiful that it was even in Medieval times.  We are dumbstruck by the 'ingenuity' (and clumsiness) of natural selection in its discovered manner of feeding the planet.  To me, the alternative 'god did it', no matter when you say it, is death to that beauty.  There is no need for it; it is the antithesis to curiosity.

    Stuart


    Greeting Stu….I must say your presentation was elequont and factual….especially your explanation of the life process of plant life…..And based on your reference to evolution I am sure you think this all came about through a big bang or some other THEORY….The process of photosythensis had an inventor…Who or What do you think that was….

    #210992
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ May 01 2008,23:50)

    Quote (Stu @ April 30 2008,08:12)

    Quote (lineon @ April 30 2008,04:01)
    Hi Stuart
    You mean you do not know what makes a tree grow?

    Lineon.


    Hi Lineon

    If you agree with seek and you will find that tree growth is a miracle, then I think you perhaps do not understand it.  You could say that, for example you are well-versed in the astonishingly complex process of photosynthesis, and even can appreciate some possible  evolutionary routes by which that adaptation, critical to all animal life, came about.  If there is a miracle in there, at what point does it need to be invoked?  Do you need a god of the gaps to step in and be a placeholder for a proper explanation?  Is our lack of knowledge a reason to invoke a supernatural being?  On the subject of beauty, our view of tree growth is so much more beautiful that it was even in Medieval times.  We are dumbstruck by the 'ingenuity' (and clumsiness) of natural selection in its discovered manner of feeding the planet.  To me, the alternative 'god did it', no matter when you say it, is death to that beauty.  There is no need for it; it is the antithesis to curiosity.

    Stuart


    Greeting Stu….I must say your presentation was elequont and factual….especially your explanation of the life process of plant life…..And based on your reference to evolution I am sure you think this all came about through a big bang or some other THEORY….The process of photosythensis had an inventor…Who or What do you think that was….


    Hi theodorej

    Well, as I my conclusion is that there is no designer, you will have to tell me.

    Stuart

    #210993
    lineon
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ May 01 2008,00:15)
    Hi Lineon

    This thread is about poetry, and I think poetry should have beauty.  I am trying to see how your god allows you to see beauty.  I feel no blinkers, except the ultimate limitations of human senses and sensibilities. Science is beautiful.  Scientists who are also religious believers would agree, I think.  Christian belief (especially biblical belief) can only impose limits, and I think beauty is very much dimmed in that view of the world.  Maybe the benefits you feel outweigh the costs.  Why live in a black-and-white world when there is a glorious continuum of grey, and colour too?

    Stuart


    Hi Stuart

    I am suprised
    That you are twisting my words
    'Black and white' to suit your views
    I did not mention 'live' and 'world'
    If you did not understand
    What I meant
    Why not ask.

    You say poetry is about beauty
    Then you would agree
    Poetry is about uglyness
    Poetry is about nursery rhyms
    Poetry is about the blues
    Poetry is about life
    Then poetry is reality
    And that is what we are talking about
    Life and death
    Black and white

    O man tell me
    What is reality?
    Tell me man.

    You are but a mere cell
    You are dust
    You are sand upon the sea shore
    You are a speck in your solar system
    It will take you ten life times and more
    To travell across your system
    Your neighbouring solar system
    Is thirty life times and more away
    How many solar systems are there?

    O man you are not the centre of the universe
    You are a living cell
    making your way home
    Some die
    Others live.
    We are on our way home.

    lineon

    #210994
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Lineon,

    You and the member, Charity, have so much in common. You both speak in riddles/poetry. You should read her thread and some of her posts. You are kindred souls, I think.

    Mandy

    #210995
    charity
    Participant

    Hi Lineon

    I like this quote of yours
    You say poetry is about beauty
    Then you would agree
    Poetry is about uglyness
    Poetry is about nursery rhyms
    Poetry is about the blues
    Poetry is about life
    Then poetry is reality

    ALSO ANOTHER FAIRY REALITY,
    MOST CHILDREN ARE FEED LOVED FAIRY STORIES,
    CREATED FOR THE MIND TO ESCAPE ITS PAIN, OR FEEL ITS WAY

    Reality Prince BY GOLDEN HEART

    I'm sure every girl dreamed of their Prince Charming already,
    But I give a word of advice
    Wait for your reality prince instead
    And you won't get hurt
    Don't get carried away with some
    dream in a balloon
    Because anyone with half a mind knows
    Balloons burst, pop, poof!
    A man that loves you
    deserves a place in your heart
    Because he will be willing to give his away to you
    No matter is he's not so handsome
    Or quite the knight in armor
    He really is if he cares about your soul
    Jump on this love and don't wait for Prince Charming
    THat guy might just fall off his horse
    Don't stop wishing
    but get back into your shoes
    And take a glimpse of your reality prince

    Golden Heart

    #210996
    lineon
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 01 2008,17:55)
    Lineon,

    You and the member, Charity, have so much in common.  You both speak in riddles/poetry.  You should read her thread and some of her posts.  You are kindred souls, I think.

    Mandy


    Hi Mandy

    Riddles=poetry

    Maybe this will help
    You should read between the lines.

    It does not say
    Much about my poetry [ha-ha-ha].

    Good poetry should be understood
    Maybe the poet is not undrstood
    But his poetry should be understood.

    Song of Solomon
    Was very difficult for me to understand
    The Song seems OK now
    But some parts
    Still need a lot of my thoughts.

    Lineon

    #210997
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Hi Lin,

    So much of the bible is symbolism that it is difficult to understand. Even the Songs cannot just be about love and sex, folks have to say her breasts stand for something political. Good grief. I tend to think Solomon just dug his women and wanted to write some soft porn (of the day). :;):

    #210998

    I rather sing a Song. Another one of my favorites is

    LET THERE BE PEACE ON EARTH

    Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me,
    Let there be peace on earth the peace that was meant to be.
    With God as our Father, Brothers all are we, let me walk with my Brothers
    in perfect harmony.

    Let peace begin with me,
    Let this be the moment now,
    with every step I take, let this be my solemn vow,
    To live each moment and give each moment in peaceful harmony,
    Let there be peace on earth,
    and let it begin with me. Let it begin with me.

    O wrote this out of my memory and I am not so sure about the ending.

    Peace and Love Irene

    #210999
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ May 03 2008,04:38)
    Hi Lin,

    So much of the bible is symbolism that it is difficult to understand.  Even the Songs cannot just be about love and sex, folks have to say her breasts stand for something political.  Good grief.  I tend to think Solomon just dug his women and wanted to write some soft porn (of the day).  :;):


    I think politics and Law spoiled this, hey he offered Her all of her disire, Poor solomon, hook Line and sinker, thats anything?

    1Ki 10:13 And king Solomon gave unto the queen of Sheba all her desire, whatsoever she asked, beside [that] which Solomon gave her of his royal bounty. So she turned and went to her own country, she and her servants.

    truley A man that knows what female can do with the soul.

    #211000
    charity
    Participant

    I do not think I have ever seen anything more beautiful
    than the bluebell I have been looking at.
    I know the beauty of our Lord by it.
    – Gerald Manley Hopkins

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