Pentecost was jesus second coming

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  • #278150
    NickHassan
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    Yup abe,
    God's work from start to finish

    #278276
    Ed J
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    Quote (abe @ Feb. 15 2012,05:57)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2012,13:59)

    Quote (Noal @ Jan. 13 2012,13:53)

    Hello Edj.Are you stateing Jesus is the holy Spirit?


    Hi Noal, and welcome to H-net!

    No, Jesus' Father. (see Matthew 1:18, Matthew 1:20, and Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,                                                                   Phil.2:8   And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.                                                                 :9  Wherefore God has also highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:                              :10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;                                                                                      :11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.                                   Did'nt God the Father give him name above every name? LORD.


    Hi Abe, welcome to H-net!

            Comparing “Yəsh-yü-ă”  to “YÄ-shü-ă”

    The Hebrew word [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă merely means ‘He will save’.
    Distancing [יה]’s salvation from the man Jesus is a rejection of
    YÄ-shü-ă as Messiah. This subtle distinction of [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă
    purposely substituted for [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă usually goes unnoticed
    when heard by a non Hebrew-speaking person; nevertheless, this
    wholly implies a specific denial of Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

    Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה] in that YÄ
    is the first part of Jesus’ Hebrew name. GOD’s name is not vocalized in the English translation
    of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness and direct authentic connection
    to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
    or the salvation of “GOD the Father”. Therefore [יהשוע] “Jesus” name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the Highest Name.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278401
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 15 2012,16:36)

    Quote (abe @ Feb. 15 2012,05:57)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2012,13:59)

    Quote (Noal @ Jan. 13 2012,13:53)

    Hello Edj.Are you stateing Jesus is the holy Spirit?


    Hi Noal, and welcome to H-net!

    No, Jesus' Father. (see Matthew 1:18, Matthew 1:20, and Luke 1:35)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed,                                                                   Phil.2:8   And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.                                                                 :9  Wherefore God has also highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:                              :10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;                                                                                      :11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.                                   Did'nt God the Father give him name above every name? LORD.


    Hi Abe, welcome to H-net!

            Comparing “Yəsh-yü-ă”  to “YÄ-shü-ă”

    The Hebrew word [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă merely means ‘He will save’.
    Distancing [יה]’s salvation from the man Jesus is a rejection of
    YÄ-shü-ă as Messiah. This subtle distinction of [ישוע] Yəsh-yü-ă
    purposely substituted for [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă usually goes unnoticed
    when heard by a non Hebrew-speaking person; nevertheless, this
    wholly implies a specific denial of Jesus as their Lord and Savior.

    Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה] in that YÄ
    is the first part of Jesus’ Hebrew name. GOD’s name is not vocalized in the English translation
    of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness and direct authentic connection
    to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])
    or the salvation of “GOD the Father”. Therefore [יהשוע] “Jesus” name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the Highest Name.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi Ed, Gal. 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He does not say, “and to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your seed,” who is Christ. Did God promise himself, that he would send him, himself?

    #278407
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi abe,
    Yes Jesus is THE ANOINTED ONE since the Jordan.
    He was recognised even at birth as having that role

    #278415
    terraricca
    Participant

    all

    Jesus second return has not yet come,

    any other calls to that he as already come ,this is not scriptural it is false

    #278418
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quite so t

    #278429
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (abe @ Feb. 16 2012,07:32)

    Did God promise himself, that he would send him,    himself?


    Hi Abe,

    What is this suppose to mean?   …could you clarify for me what you are talking about here?

    You do understand the Jesus' name part, right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278431
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,08:24)
    all

    Jesus second return has not yet come,

    any other calls to that he as already come ,this is not scriptural it is false


    Hi Pierre,

    Where is YOUR proof that Jesus has not (in spirit form) returned at Pentecost? (1Thess 5:21)    
    …or do you just want us to take YOUR word for it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278445
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,15:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,08:24)
    all

    Jesus second return has not yet come,

    any other calls to that he as already come ,this is not scriptural it is false


    Hi Pierre,

    Where is YOUR proof that Jesus has not (in spirit form) returned at Pentecost? (1Thess 5:21)    
    …or do you just want us to take YOUR word for it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    if you can read scriptures it is said in black and withe;

    Ac 1:5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”
    Ac 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

    Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”

    Mt 26:27 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you.
    Mt 26:28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    Mt 26:29 I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

    now understand that the holy spirit could by no means be Christ ,or then he would be a liar and that can not be ,

    Pierre

    #278448
    shimmer
    Participant

    Ed,
    'The Day of the Lord' and 'The Return of Jesus' are the same thing.

    We are still waiting for the Return of Jesus, though Jesus is here now in Spirit.

    Read this carefully:

    2Thes.2

    Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren, not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
    Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
    Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you this?
    And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time.
    For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.
    And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and his coming.
    The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
    Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
    But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God chose you from the beginning to be saved, through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth.

    I can give you a lot more verses than this Ed.

    #278456
    shimmer
    Participant

    Ed,
    Please also read this (Notice Ed that I don't need to post little bits here and there and put verses together. I can give whole chapters):

    2Pet.3.

    This is now the second letter that I have written to you, beloved, and in both of them I have aroused your sincere mind by way of reminder; that you should remember the predictions of the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles.
    First of all you must understand this, that scoffers will come in the last days with scoffing, following their own passions and saying, “Where is the promise of his coming? For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all things have continued as they were from the beginning of creation.”
    They deliberately ignore this fact, that by the word of God heavens existed long ago, and an earth formed out of water and by means of water, through which the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished.
    But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist have been stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
    (THIS HASN'T HAPPENED YET)
    But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
    The Lord is not slow about his promise as some count slowness, but is forbearing toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
    But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up.
    (MALACHI 4)

    Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire!
    But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

    Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace.
    And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.
    You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability.
    But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

    “For behold, the day comes, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble; the day that comes shall burn them up, says the LORD of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.  But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall. And you shall tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day when I act, says the LORD of hosts”.

    #278478
    shimmer
    Participant

    And:

    Dan.3.

    There are certain Jews whom you have appointed over the affairs of the province of Babylon: Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego. These men, O king, pay no heed to you; they do not serve your gods or worship the golden image which you have set up.”

    Then Nebuchadnez'zar in furious rage commanded that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego be brought. Then they brought these men before the king.

    Nebuchadnez'zar said to them, “Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego, that you do not serve my gods or worship the golden image which I have set up?
    Now if you are ready when you hear the sound of the horn, pipe, lyre, trigon, harp, bagpipe, and every kind of music, to fall down and worship the image which I have made, well and good; but if you do not worship, you shall immediately be cast into a burning fiery furnace; and who is the god that will deliver you out of my hands?”

    Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego answered the king, “O Nebuchadnez'zar, we have no need to answer you in this matter.

    If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace; and he will deliver us out of your hand, O king.
    But if not, be it known to you, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the golden image which you have set up.”

    Then Nebuchadnez'zar was full of fury, and the expression of his face was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego. He ordered the furnace heated seven times more than it was wont to be heated.

    And he ordered certain mighty men of his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
    Then these men were bound in their mantles, their tunics, their hats, and their other garments, and they were cast into the burning fiery furnace.
    Because the king's order was strict and the furnace very hot, the flame of the fire slew those men who took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego.
    And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego, fell bound into the burning fiery furnace.

    Then King Nebuchadnez'zar was astonished and rose up in haste. He said to his counselors, “Did we not cast three men bound into the fire?” They answered the king, “True, O king.”

    He answered, “But I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they are not hurt; and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods.”

    Then Nebuchadnez'zar came near to the door of the burning fiery furnace and said, “Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego, servants of the Most High God, come forth, and come here!” Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego came out from the fire.

    And the satraps, the prefects, the governors, and the king's counselors gathered together and saw that the fire had not had any power over the bodies of those men; the hair of their heads was not singed, their mantles were not harmed, and no smell of fire had come upon them.
    Nebuchadnez'zar said, “Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego, who has sent his angel and delivered his servants, who trusted in him, and set at nought the king's command, and yielded up their bodies rather than serve and worship any god except their own God.
    Therefore I make a decree: Any people, nation, or language that speaks anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego shall be torn limb from limb, and their houses laid in ruins; for there is no other god who is able to deliver in this way.”
    Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed'nego in the province of Babylon.

    #278491
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,09:44)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,15:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 16 2012,08:24)
    all

    Jesus second return has not yet come,

    any other calls to that he as already come ,this is not scriptural it is false


    Hi Pierre,

    Where is YOUR proof that Jesus has not (in spirit form) returned at Pentecost? (1Thess 5:21)    
    …or do you just want us to take YOUR word for it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    if you can read scriptures it is said in black and withe;

    Ac 1:5 For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.”
    Ac 1:8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

    Lk 24:49 I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”

    Mt 26:27 Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you.
    Mt 26:28 This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    Mt 26:29 I tell you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it anew with you in my Father’s kingdom.”

    now understand that the holy spirit could by no means be Christ ,or then he would be a liar and that can not be ,

    Pierre


    Hi Pierre,

    None of those verses nullify what I said?   …what makes you 'think' they do?   …please explain??

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278496
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 16 2012,09:54)
    Ed,
    'The Day of the Lord' and 'The Return of Jesus' are the same thing.


    Hi Shimmer,

    Nope.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278497
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 16 2012,09:54)
    Ed,

    I can give you a lot more verses than this Ed.

    We are still waiting for the Return of Jesus, though Jesus is here now in Spirit.


    Hi Shimmer, please do.

    Unless you are looking for him in the Spirit,
    you'll be waiting a  L O N G  time! (Heb. 9:28)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278499
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Shimmer,

    “Where is the promise of his coming?     <– is this not what you are saying?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278502
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 16 2012,10:10)
    Ed,

    But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, and the elements will be dissolved with fire, and the earth and the works that are upon it will be burned up. [/i](MALACHI 4)

    Since all these things are thus to be dissolved, what sort of persons ought you to be in lives of holiness and godliness, waiting for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be kindled and dissolved, and the elements will melt with fire!
    But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

    “For behold, the day comes, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble; the day that comes shall burn them up, says the LORD of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch.  But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall. And you shall tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day when I act, says the LORD of hosts”.


    Hi Shimmer,

    These verses refer to “The Day of The LORD”,
    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost.   …different feast.
    “The Day of The LORD”  IS  Feast of Booths.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278504
    shimmer
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,13:19)
    Hi Shimmer,

    “Where is the promise of his coming?     <– is this not what you are saying?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,
    Once again you are taking one little piece of the scripture and not looking at the WHOLE THING.

    Read it through properly please Ed.

    #278525
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 16 2012,11:31)

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,13:19)
    Hi Shimmer,

    “Where is the promise of his coming?     <– is this not what you are saying?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,
    Once again you are taking one little piece of the scripture and not looking at the WHOLE THING.

    Read it through properly please Ed.


    Hi Shimmer,

    I have been VERY familiar with that verse for quite some time now.

    That verse refers to “The Day of The LORD”,
    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost.   …different feast.
    “The Day of The LORD”  IS  Feast of Booths.

    It is you who is UN-familiar with God's feasts; correct?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #278545
    shimmer
    Participant

    Ed, the Day of the Lord and the Return of Jesus. Same Day, still future, we're still waiting.
    But Jesus is here – in Spirit form.

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