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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,05:35) Hi ED,
The Spirit of Christ could not be shared while Jesus was yet on earth.[jn7 38-39]
On his entering heaven the comforter would be sent by Jesus and the Father.[Jn14-16]
In that Spirit the brothers could ever commune with God and His Son[2cor 13.14, 2jn9]
When he returns he will not spare the rebellious including false teachers[2cor 13.2, 2Peter2]
When he returns will there be faith found on earth?
Hi Nick,You speak (in essence) of forcing the text.
2cor 13.2 speaks of (Shaool) The Apostle Paul's returning to the Corinthian Church.
It's funny that 2Peter2 speaks of false teaching: Like a false flesh return that 'you' profess! (Click here)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Jesus will not return in flesh.
Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the kingdom.
He will have a new imperishable body like his brothers.[1cor15]Hi ED,
We are given a taste of things to come, an earnest of the Spirit,
The Comforter is till the Saviour himself returns and the body is made one.
Such a foreshadowing should not be taken to be all God has in store for His peopleHi ED,
Pentecost was not the return of the King in glory.
He will return accompanied by his angels.
Behold he stands at the doorQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 12 2010,08:31) Hi Georg, The numbers do confirm it was at “Pentecost”! (2Tim.2:13) THANKS so much for asking (Matt.7:7-8)!
“The bible”=63 has the proof well documented that (YHVH)“GOD the Father”=117 raised Jesus back from the dead (Gal. 1:1).
This can easily be easily seen with the use of “Theomatics (sometimes called Gematria): numbers encoded into “Scripture”.The numbers [63+54=117] help to give us greater clarity in this matter. (John 14:17)
“YHVH”=63 as the “God Spirit”=117 indwells in mankind starting after a 54-day period
which began at Jesus’ crucifixion and ended at Pentecost. On day four, Jesus is living again,
“GOD the Father”=117 raised Jesus back to life again (Gal.1:1). Pentecost in Greek means fifty;
which started fifty days after the resurrection. Pentecost therefore began 54 days after the crucifixion.Pentecost brings a close to the fifty-four day period that began at Jesus’ death. NOTHING in God's Word inconsequential.
YHVH=63 plus the 54 days it took prior to Pentecost=117 starting, can be mathematically stated as …(63+54=117).
This formula lends strong support to English Gematria and yet stronger evidence to the claim that “YHVH is GOD”=117!GOD= 26 IS (יהוה(=26 YÄ=26; (117=יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm) “The Savior”=117 to all who walk the ground!
GOD has also put prime number counterparts into this (God orchestrated) very (intelligent) design.
It was GOD who raised Jesus back from the dead; because HE is the “TREE OF LIFE”=101.
[101] is the [26th prime number] in a long list of prime #’s (starting with two).
“GOD” is the “Tree Of Life” who raised Jesus back to life.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
This is what Paul said, long after Pentecost.2Th 2:1 ¶ Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
There were people then already that thought Christ had returned.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (Christs return) shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
That son of perdition (destruction) is Antichrist, the falling away happened during his reign (565 – 1825), as he had all those who opposed his doctrine executed. (Btw, the Vatican abolished torture in 1843.)
Christ “WILL” reveal him at his return, as now no body believes who it is.Hi Georg,
I have identified the 'son of perdition' here!
“The day of Christ” is the “Feast of Booths”,
which we(believers) are now in! (Click Here)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 31 2010,21:54) Hi Georg, I have identified the 'son of perdition' here!
“The day of Christ” is the “Feast of Booths”,
which we(believers) are now in! (Click Here)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You believe your numbers, I believe the Bible, that is the main difference.
You don't believe the Bible because you don't understand it.
You ask for discourse, but never follow through with it.
You ask for answers, when I give answers, you change the subject.
When I ask for answers, you ignore them.
You're only here to impress others with your numbers, nothing more.
YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED NOTHING!Quote (Arnold @ Aug. 01 2010,20:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 31 2010,21:54) Hi Georg, I have identified the 'son of perdition' here!
“The day of Christ” is the “Feast of Booths”,
which we(believers) are now in! (Click Here)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You believe your numbers, I believe the Bible, that is the main difference.
You don't believe the Bible because you don't understand it.
You ask for discourse, but never follow through with it.
You ask for answers, when I give answers, you change the subject.
When I ask for answers, you ignore them.
You're only here to impress others with your numbers, nothing more.
YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED NOTHING!
Your silence is hurting my earsQuote (Arnold @ Aug. 01 2010,20:10) Quote (Ed J @ July 31 2010,21:54) Hi Georg, I have identified the 'son of perdition' here!
“The day of Christ” is the “Feast of Booths”,
which we(believers) are now in! (Click Here)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
1) You believe your numbers, I believe the Bible, that is the main difference.
2) You don't believe the Bible because you don't understand it.
3) You ask for discourse, but never follow through with it.
4) You ask for answers, when I give answers, you change the subject.
5) When I ask for answers, you ignore them.
6) You're only here to impress others with your numbers, nothing more.
YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED NOTHING!
Hi Georg,1) God's orchestrated the design of “Theomatics”(numbers relating to God) over large timescales
and the Theomatic structure even crossing through from Hebrew to Greek through to English. (Click Here)
I also Believe in “The Bible”, the word of “YHVH”! 'You'(Georg) should NOT Judge! (Mt.7:1-5)
2) If someone doesn't understand cars, they cannot believe in them? Your logic is flawed!
3) You need to stay on the subject of the thread.
4) What are you talking about? Please explain.
5) You ask for answers that are off topic to the thread.
Ask them in the appropriate thread and I will respond to them. (Click Here) <– Second Post
6) Opinions, opinions, opinions!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeangel @ Oct. 20 2010,23:43) Hi Ed, (1)I read the thread. I see where you are coming from and I agree somewhat. We all have our own special insights into God. To me you could be right. There are scriptures that do point to Jesus being right here right now. The one that comes to mind to me is when Jesus said Matt 28v20 “an know that I am with you always, until the end of the world!”. I also agree with you that it is in sprit form, recieved at pentacost. Now this is where we get foggy. (skip this sister Irene, you ain't gonna agree with this) I don't understand or comprehend this , but this is the holy sprit. Jesus ascended in bodily form at the ascension, then returned in sprit form at pentacost, (2)but will return in bodily form. (3)Matt26 v64- soon you will see the son of man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming on the clouds of heaven”. (4)Also in Zechariah chapter 14, which IMO is about the last battle, hopefully about to happen when Isreal is attacked by the muslim world and secular nations, Zec 14 V1 “I will gather all nations against Jerusalem for battle…………..(5)v3 the Lord shall go forth and fight against those nations,,,,,,,,,,,, (6)his feet shat rest upon the mount of olives……..v5 Then the Lord, my God, shall come, and all his holy ones with him” This shows how uncomprehendable God is. How can God be fighting against Isreals enemys amd then come with his holy angels when he is already there? No doubt you will say that he is already there in sprit form but it says his feet will alrealy be on the mount of olives. (7)This is where IMO The trinity is implicated, they to me (I know Irene, calm down) are in three separate persons but one God. You can't be almost God, or part of God , you are or you aren't. There is no way to understand, and thats good, because IMO if you somehow managed to you would die or lose your mind IMO. (8)Take John 7 v37 “” if anyone thirst, let him come to me;let him drink who believes in me. Scripture has it: 'from him rivers of living water shall flow' ” then v 39 ( Here he was referring to the sprit, whom those that casme to believe in him were to recieve. Ther was of course no sprit as yet, since Jesus had not yet been glorified). So you are right , the sprit was to come after Jesus was glorified and ascended…….but………(9)Is it not known that the spirit spoke through the prophets? and worked wonders? (10)Did the sprit ascend right before Jesus was concieved, came down to overshadow Mary Luke 1 v35 “The Holy sprit will come upon you and the power of the most high will overshadow you; hence, the holy offspring to be born will be called the son of God” ……… (11)There are so many debates about this, all I know is I love God as I understand him- As creator, brother, and sprit, all having the power to protect and guide me. I will understand one day, but untill then I will just trust God. Peace- Mark
Hi Mark,1) Great!
2) There is nothing to indicate he will return in bodily form again?
3) This is a description of what happened after Pentecost.
Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses,
let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us,
and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
4) The kingdom of antichrist is islam. (Click Here)
5) The ones that will be fighting is us! (British Israel)
6) This happened in 1948
7) “The Trinity” was only a means of extracting Lucifer/Satan from the Godhead! (Click Here) <–Fifth Post down.
8) The rivers of living waters are the “HolySpirit”; correct!
9) This can be found in 1Peter1:10-11.
10) The HolySpirit did the conceiving. Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)
11) Eph.4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro,
and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men,
and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 09 2011,12:06) Bump for Pierre (Terraricca).
edjwhere is the bump ?
show me your knowledge to the return of Christ
PIERRE,
Did you read all the posts in this thread?
If you are too lazy, perhaps you can ask a question.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 09 2011,13:45) PIERRE, Did you read all the posts in this thread?
If you are too lazy, perhaps you can ask a question.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjha,ha,ha;so if you have nothing more than what you say in this topic ,well then i say 'Christ did not return on the day of pentecost,
you have not shown any teaching here only manipulation of words that make sense to you ,
first when Christ returns Mat 24,Luke 21,Mark;13,gives good indication of what will happen then(at his return) it was part of the apostels question,
Pierre
Pierre: In John14:16….Jesus says….and I will pary the father and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever:….V17….even the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive(Jews,old religious world order) because it [seeth] him not, neither [knoweth] him…(can't see with physical eyes or have knowledge/understanding)….but ye know him (Jesus)….for [he] dwelleth with you and shall be “in” you…
John14:26….but the Comforter,…which is the Holy Ghost….whom the Father will send in my “name”(stead, authority) he shall teach you all things and bring to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
They are all the same thing to me! God is spirit, gives his spirit/words to Jesus….Jesus gives the spitit/words of God without measure to all who will accept and believe. God is holy and his words are Holy spirit, which give comfort and truth to mankind! We should stop dividing truth and allow it to unify together into ONE!!
To say that Jesus must come again is to say that he is not here now….. He is here every day living within the heart of man as the spirit of truth…..that is deadly religious doctrine at work. Remember if everything from God is for the “future” it will never come! IMO, TK
tk
Quote To say that Jesus must come again is to say that he is not here now….. He is here every day living within the heart of man as the spirit of truth…..that is deadly religious doctrine at work. Remember if everything from God is for the “future” it will never come! IMO, TK Christ as the mission to fulfill all scriptures of God ,this he did not do when he left the earth to heaven,time as to past because he had given a commission to his disciples to go around the world and preach the good news of the kingdom,and the second pen of sheep had to come in as well ,but Christ foretold how the believers will see his return not him as a physical man or body but as an acting being ,just as a spirit being does things but we do not see him with our carnal eyes but with our spiritual eyes ,by the action that he foretold us ,and so glorify God and him for the things that are done to save the righteous ,the humble in spirit ,his servants,the ones he loves and the ones that loves him ,
time is short TK nothing works no more in this world and God as unleashed his powers ,but no one pays attention they are to busy at fixing the desolation left behind,
not a week goes by that their is another disaster some were in the world if not more,at one point it will become every day,
Pierre
Pierre: …..You say…..
Christ as the mission to fulfill all scriptures of God ,this he did not do when he left the earth to heaven…..!Jesus says:Luke18:31….Behold we go up to Jerusalem and all things that are written by the Prophets, concerning the son of man shall be accomplished (completed)!!
Luke22:37….All that was written in the scriptures must be fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
Luke24:44….Jesus said….all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses,….in the Prophets….and in the Psalms…concerning Jesus!
You say….time is short TK nothing works no more in this world and God as unleashed his powers ,but no one pays attention they are to busy at fixing the desolation left behind,
not a week goes by that their is another disaster some were in the world if not more,at one point it will become every day,
I SAY IT HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS AND IF WE DON'T WISE UP[AND RISE UP] IT WILL BE ANOTHER TWO THOUSAND YEARS!! TK
Quote (ftk @ Nov. 11 2011,04:45) Pierre: …..You say…..
Christ as the mission to fulfill all scriptures of God ,this he did not do when he left the earth to heaven…..!Jesus says:Luke18:31….Behold we go up to Jerusalem and all things that are written by the Prophets, concerning the son of man shall be accomplished (completed)!!
Luke22:37….All that was written in the scriptures must be fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
Luke24:44….Jesus said….all things must be fulfilled which were written in the law of Moses,….in the Prophets….and in the Psalms…concerning Jesus!
You say….time is short TK nothing works no more in this world and God as unleashed his powers ,but no one pays attention they are to busy at fixing the desolation left behind,
not a week goes by that their is another disaster some were in the world if not more,at one point it will become every day,
I SAY IT HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS AND IF WE DON'T WISE UP[AND RISE UP] IT WILL BE ANOTHER TWO THOUSAND YEARS!! TK
hi tkthis happen around the year 90 AD
Rev 1:1 The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John,
Rev 1:2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 1:3 Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near.Jesus Christ is no longer “the son of man ” but “THE WORD OF GOD” and with all the powers he received (Mt 28:18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.) if all things where done why does Christ received all powers from God ?after his dead ?
His manhood was only phase one,this was to open the door,
now the real action starts,Mt 28:20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” what and when is the end of the age ??
Col 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.
Col 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—
Col 1:23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.we know what Paul talks about is in the sixties AD
if Christ would have been done it would not make sense is it ??look what Paul says ;if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel.
this is important.Rev 6:16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
Rev 6:17 For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”now if everything was done when was ” the wrath of the Lamb”??
Pierre
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