Pentecost was jesus second coming ?

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Quote (shimmer @ July 04 2011,09:38)

Ed, nothing you say – with this – scripturally adds up, except for your numbers.

Hi Shimmer,

You remind me of Tim Kraft, where his thoughts trump everything including “THE FACTS”!
What I have presented to you are the facts, yet you scoff at them and
then try to convince me 'your thoughts' are more correct?

Take a look at these pertinent Bible verses…

Prob.16:2 All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes.
Prov 23:7 For as he/she thinketh in his/her heart, so is he/she.

Now read carefully this (speaking of things that are burned up)…

The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites.
Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall
dwell with everlasting burnings? He that walketh righteously, and speaketh
uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from
holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes
from seeing evil; He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks:
bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure. Thine eyes shall see the king in his beauty:
they shall behold the (future) land that is very far off. (Isaiah 33:14-17)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org …(Eccl.9:12-16)

July 4, 2011 at 6:42 am#250839

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Quote (shimmer @ July 04 2011,09:38)

Peoples opinion don't matter to me.

Yet you 'think' yours are suppose to matter to others?

“The Bible” has a word for this and Jesus used it many times to the Scribes and Pharisees.

July 4, 2011 at 6:50 am#250840

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Hi Shimmer,

God's Signature
Proof of God=117
GOD(26) → The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74) → The LORD JEHOVAH(151)

יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)

God's Name יהוה (YHVH) is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā, not the corrupt 'WAY' you 'SAY'!

The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63; “YHVH is GOD”.

YHVH is God's Name (יהוה) translated into English; as the Hebrew lacks vowels.
GOD’s most sacred Holy Name [יהוה] was given to us directly from the Hebrew language.
Correctly translating Hebrew into other languages can be difficult however. Some basic
linguistical rules need to be considered when translating Hebrew texts. These include a lack
of spacing between words, as a general rule has no written vowels and the basic direction
in which Hebrew is written (opposite: from right to left). Hebrew word spacing is a modern
advent that distinguishes one word from the next, aiding both translators and multi-linguists
alike. Unwritten “implied” vowel sounds are a concern because, correct pronunciations of
Hebrew words are at risk. This point is made because the correct pronunciation was
thought to be lost, which led only to translators’ interpretations, and incorrect spellings.

GOD’s Name (יהוה) transliterates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet
lacks vowels. Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.

[יהוה] GOD’s Name …[י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey…. is pronounced. YÄ-hä-vā &. [יה] YÄ(26)

The identity of יהוה=26 is “GOD”=26 spoken as YÄ-hä-vā: where ä sounds like
that of the word “ah” and the other ā sounds like the vowel in the word “hay”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

July 4, 2011 at 7:51 am#250843

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Ed, you said:

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What I have presented to you are the facts, yet you scoff at them and
then try to convince me 'your thoughts' are more correct?

Uh-uh Ed, I said:

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God showed me this years ago.

So – bye Ed. This isnt a debate for me. It's up to you to listen or not. I have nothing more to say. So please – dont post anything else to me here. Thanks.

July 11, 2011 at 11:42 am#251943

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I'm sorry Ed.

July 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm#251951

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Hi Simmer, that's OK.

Others have trouble when their beliefs are questioned too.
Take Stuart for example: he got upset when I posted
quotes from Charles Darwin about his doubts.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

July 12, 2011 at 9:38 am#252101

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Thanks Ed.

July 15, 2011 at 11:45 am#252515

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Quote (shimmer @ July 11 2011,22:42)

I'm sorry Ed.

Greetings Shimmer …. Hold to your beliefs and continue to prove them there of….. There are many folks who believe things and they don't know why and then there are those that have been convicted and have failed to prove all things and in order for them to believe they must convince themselves and how they do that is by dominating a topic while attempting to over power a listener with mannerism that invokes submissiveness…

July 15, 2011 at 12:16 pm#252517

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Quote (shimmer @ July 11 2011,22:42)

I'm sorry Ed.

Shimmer….. WHAT ARE YOU SORRY FOR ?? Having the courage of your convictions….. no apologies needed!! Ed is a very talented gifted sales person….However not every body is a buyer…. Iam not a buyer because of a lack of understanding and for most part interest… I can understand how a position such as mine can be frustrating to ED but I see no reason to apologize for it…I have learned alot from Ed..

July 15, 2011 at 12:21 pm#252518

princess

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Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2011,23:18)

Hi Simmer, that's OK.

Others have trouble when their beliefs are questioned too.
Take Stuart for example: he got upset when I posted
quotes from Charles Darwin about his doubts.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Stuart will most likely respond, some do not.

July 15, 2011 at 12:32 pm#252519

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Quote (princess @ July 15 2011,23:21)

Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2011,23:18)

Hi Simmer, that's OK.

Others have trouble when their beliefs are questioned too.
Take Stuart for example: he got upset when I posted
quotes from Charles Darwin about his doubts.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Stuart will most likely respond, some do not.

Greetings Princess ….. Some assertions beg a response and in the process proper discourse yields education either on a topic or an individual..

July 15, 2011 at 3:03 pm#252531

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Theodore, I have no problem with Ed. I just get a bit inpatient with this topic. Nobody seems to hear me.

But thanks.

July 15, 2011 at 6:53 pm#252547

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Quote (shimmer @ July 16 2011,02:03)

Theodore, I have no problem with Ed. I just get a bit inpatient with this topic. Nobody seems to hear me.

But thanks.

I hear you and I agree with you …. Ed is excelent seasoning for this forum and tremendous asset…

July 15, 2011 at 8:49 pm#252553

princess

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Quote (theodorej @ July 15 2011,23:32)

Quote (princess @ July 15 2011,23:21)

Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2011,23:18)

Hi Simmer, that's OK.

Others have trouble when their beliefs are questioned too.
Take Stuart for example: he got upset when I posted
quotes from Charles Darwin about his doubts.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Stuart will most likely respond, some do not.

Greetings Princess ….. Some assertions beg a response and in the process proper discourse yields education either on a topic or an individual..

Hello Theodore,

do hope all is well with you.

it seems at times the ones who demand answers, are the ones that never answer questions themselves, perhaps a new fad of some sort.

July 15, 2011 at 8:54 pm#252554

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Quote (theodorej @ July 15 2011,23:16)

Quote (shimmer @ July 11 2011,22:42)

I'm sorry Ed.

Hi Theodore J,

Thank you. (2 Timothy 2:24-25)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

July 15, 2011 at 8:57 pm#252555

princess

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Quote (theodorej @ July 15 2011,23:16)

……….dominating a topic while attempting to over power a listener with mannerism that invokes submissiveness

well said Theodore.

July 15, 2011 at 9:01 pm#252556

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Quote (theodorej @ July 16 2011,05:53)

Quote (shimmer @ July 16 2011,02:03)

Theodore, I have no problem with Ed. I just get a bit inpatient with this topic. Nobody seems to hear me.

But thanks.

I hear you and I agree with you …. Ed is excelent seasoning for this forum and tremendous asset…

Hi Theodore J,

Once again, thank you! (Colossians 4:6)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

July 17, 2011 at 2:30 pm#252727

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Quote (princess @ July 16 2011,07:49)

Quote (theodorej @ July 15 2011,23:32)

Quote (princess @ July 15 2011,23:21)

Quote (Ed J @ July 11 2011,23:18)

Hi Simmer, that's OK.

Others have trouble when their beliefs are questioned too.
Take Stuart for example: he got upset when I posted
quotes from Charles Darwin about his doubts.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Stuart will most likely respond, some do not.

Greetings Princess ….. Some assertions beg a response and in the process proper discourse yields education either on a topic or an individual..

Hello Theodore,

do hope all is well with you.

it seems at times the ones who demand answers, are the ones that never answer questions themselves, perhaps a new fad of some sort.

Greetings Ed ….. Iam content …thank you…. I do not have a demanding nature,however, there are times when I can respectfully request a reasobale response be it right or wrong after all… we all share the same human frailties..

July 18, 2011 at 3:46 am#252809

Stu

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Just in case anyone was wondering about Ed's reference to quoting Charles Darwin, our discussion was around his promotion of quote-mining, which logically leads to showing that the Judeo-christian scriptures are blasphemous.

Stuart

July 18, 2011 at 5:13 am#252820