Pentecost was jesus second coming

[Ed J]

Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 07 2010,00:23)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2010,11:51) Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 06 2010,11:36) What accounts would make you think that I do not believe? Is it something to do with the three nines? Let me know. Hi Princess of the king, Do you believe Jesus “Spiritual” second coming occurred at “Pentecost”? God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Ed J, Would you please start a new thread in regards to this, so we can continue. Thank you. I'm sure this would bring much to the forum. Take care, Ed J.

Hi Everybody,

I started this thread at the request of Princess of the king.
Jesus “Spiritual” Second Coming occurred at “Pentecost”!

What say you?

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[princess of the king]

Edj,

Thank you for bringing this over, bd has started other thread in regards to refuting your belief, would you like to debate with him over the subject or would you like to continue with this thread, it is your decision.

Bd, has posted here

Take Care

[Ed J]

Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 07 2010,14:27)

Edj, Thank you for bringing this over, bd has started other thread in regards to refuting your belief, would you like to debate with him over the subject or would you like to continue with this thread, it is your decision. Bd, has posted here Take Care

Hi Princess of the king,

I'm not into versus, I'm into verses; I welcome all.
I think it's Good, because then he can participate.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
The return of Jesus is associated with the resurrection of the saints.
Paul warned against those who claimed it had already happened.

marantha Lord Jesus come.

[Elizabeth]

Ed

Pentecost was the coming of the promised Holy Spirit, not the second coming of Christ.

Jhn 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Jesus was not coming back, he would send “ANOTHER” Comforter, the Holy Spirit.

Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Jhn 15:26 ¶ But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

Ed, why was it so “expedient” for Jesus to go away, to ascend to heaven?

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:37)

Ed Ed, why was it so “expedient” for Jesus to go away, to ascend to heaven? Georg

Hi Georg,

So he could return in Spirit Form with his Father(HolySpirit)!

Luke 9:27: But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here,
which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Matt. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here,  
which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

                      “Pentecost” brings “the Kingdom's God”(HolySpirit)

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will
love him, and “WE“(Jesus' Father + Jesus) will come unto him(the believer), AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.
                            [Isaiah 64:4-5 + Heb.9:28=John 14:23]

Isaiah 64:4-5 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath the eye seen, O God(HolySpirit), beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him.
Thou(HolySpirit + Jesus: A Personal “Pentecost”) meetest him(the Believer) that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those
that remember thee in thy ways: behold, thou art wroth; for we have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.

Heb. 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (“The Passover“);
and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time (“Pentecost“) without sin unto salvation.
The Savior=117 is “GOD The Father”=117 [117=יהוה האלהים] (JEHOVAH GOD) (Isaiah 43:11)

Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117;
Geometry and Gematria can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this FACT (Jesus at The Father's right hand)!
“The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74!

         

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Certainly both Jesus and his Father can be known now on earth by fellowshiping in the Spirit.
But the Lord Jesus Christ is still in heaven at the right hand of God.
We are one with the one at the right hand of God.[Col3.1]

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,18:22)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:37) Ed Ed, why was it so “expedient” for Jesus to go away, to ascend to heaven? Georg Hi Georg, So he could return in Spirit Form with his Father(HolySpirit)!

Hey Eddy

No, that was not the reason.
Jesus was our sin sacrifice; Jesus had to present himself as our sacrifice before the Father, had the Father for whatever reason not excepted his offering, there would have been no Holy Spirit sent. When the Holy Spirit was sent in the form of flaming tongues, it was an outward sign for all to see that in fact God did sent the Holy Spirit as promised.

Georg

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Why did Jesus tell his disciples to pray to God in heaven?[Mt6]

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
God is in us as Spirit who belong to Jesus[Eph2] but we do not worship the Spirit of God.
Instead the Spirit of God helps us in our prayers to God[Rom8]

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2010,05:13)

Hi ED, Why did Jesus tell his disciples to pray to God in heaven?[Mt6]

Hi Nick,

Matt.6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

The “Kingdom of God”=120 came first to the 120 believers on the day of “Pentecost”,
producing God's will being done on Earth! Their prayers were SUCCESSFUL! (John 6:39)

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 08 2010,04:12)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,18:22) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:37) Ed Ed, why was it so “expedient” for Jesus to go away, to ascend to heaven? Georg Hi Georg, So he could return in Spirit Form with his Father(HolySpirit)! Hey Eddy No, that was not the reason. Georg

Hi Georg,

No; what do you 'think' this verse means then…

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my
brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
It came earlier than that.
Lk16 .16.

The King rode into Jerusalem on a donkey to fulfill scripture.
He rules that kingdom now from heaven and soon will return to earth to rule as well.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2010,20:08)

Hi ED, It came earlier than that. Lk16 .16. The King rode into Jerusalem on a donkey to fulfill scripture. He rules that kingdom now from heaven and soon will return to earth to rule as well.

Hi Nick,

Do you think anyone was “Born Again” prior to Pentecost? (John 3:3-8)
John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive,
because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him;
for he(HolySpirit) dwelleth with you(in Jesus), and shall be in you.
Jesus “Second Coming” was Spiritual and occurred on Pentecost.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,19:37)

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 08 2010,04:12) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2010,18:22) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 07 2010,16:37) Ed Ed, why was it so “expedient” for Jesus to go away, to ascend to heaven? Georg Hi Georg, So he could return in Spirit Form with his Father(HolySpirit)! Hey Eddy No, that was not the reason. Georg Hi Georg, No; what do you 'think' this verse means then… John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hey Eddy

What do you think these verses mean?

Act 1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:

Act 1:3 To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

Notice, it was 40 days “after” his resurrection that he ascended up to heaven?
Did nobody touch him till then?
See if it's in your numbers who is lying, Jesus or Luke.

Georg

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,20:28)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2010,20:08) Hi ED, It came earlier than that. Lk16 .16. The King rode into Jerusalem on a donkey to fulfill scripture. He rules that kingdom now from heaven and soon will return to earth to rule as well. Hi Nick, Do you think anyone was “Born Again” prior to Pentecost? (John 3:3-8) John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he(HolySpirit) dwelleth with you(in Jesus), and shall be in you. Jesus “Second Coming” was Spiritual and occurred on Pentecost. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hey Eddy

Did Jesus say I will “bring” you the Holy Spirit, or did he say, I will “send” him to you?

Georg

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 08 2010,20:08)

Hi ED, It came earlier than that. Lk16 .16. The King rode into Jerusalem on a donkey to fulfill scripture. He rules that kingdom now from heaven and soon will return to earth to rule as well.

Nick

If Jesus is ruling “his” kingdom now, he's not doing so good, is he?

Georg

[NickHassan]

Hi Georg,
Do you not think so?
You are not confusing his kingdom with the world are you?
Perhaps you are confusing the kingdom with the whore and her daughters?

No his kingdom is not of this world or it's useless religions.

Jesus rules the few in his body at this time and when he returns they will rule cities for him[Lk18].
The road is narrow and few choose to take it.
God has just a remnant people.

[Elizabeth]

Nick

When did this occur?

Mat 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Because that is when Jesus will begin to reign here on earth.

Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Do you really believe Satan has been done away yet? I sure hope not.

Georg

[gollamudi]

Good question brother Georg. Infact the kingdom of Messiah will be of this world I mean it will be a political kingdom on this earth.

Peace to you
Adam

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