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hi WU,
You say in another thread“All israel will be green with great trees growing.
The animals will not bite.The lion will eat straw.
No pain,no sorrows,no wars,all will be at peace.
Everyone will live up to one hundred years old,and then die.Because the prince of peace is ruling.
And his saints with Him.
We are not in paradise at the moment;we have to go through
the tribulation first;and resurrected.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back to their land,which will be paradise.
The saints have inherited heaven and earth.I had to mention Paradise many times to explain.”
You describe the 1000 yr regn
But scripture does not call this paradiseQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,07:21) hi WU,
You say in another thread“All israel will be green with great trees growing.
The animals will not bite.The lion will eat straw.
No pain,no sorrows,no wars,all will be at peace.
Everyone will live up to one hundred years old,and then die.Because the prince of peace is ruling.
And his saints with Him.
We are not in paradise at the moment;we have to go through
the tribulation first;and resurrected.The chosen jews of all generations will be brought back to their land,which will be paradise.
The saints have inherited heaven and earth.I had to mention Paradise many times to explain.”
You describe the 1000 yr regn
But scripture does not call this paradise
Nick.It is obvious that all the answers are not splashed on the screen for all to know.
We know that the chosen jews will be brought back,
in the flesh. They will be settled in israel.
There will be no pain nor sorrow there.
The sword turned into plowshares, and the spears into pruning hooks. The lion eat straw.This is the paradise Jesus was speaking of to the thief.
Here is that land:
Zechariah 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
LIVING WATERS; PREACHINGS, AND TEACHINGS.
Zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zechariah 14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: **and it shall be lifted up**, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
THE LAND WILL BE LANDSCAPED.
Zechariah 14:11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,10:42) Hi WU
You say
“This is the paradise Jesus was speaking of to the thief.”
Is this just your opinion?
Nick.Opinion can not be backed up with scriptures.
There is a new paradise coming for the revived
jews.
When there is no pain,no sorrow no tears,no wars
the lion will eat straw. This has to be paradise.
What else can you call it?wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,11:20) Hi WU,
HAS TO BE does not wash for serious bible students does it?
Nick.Maybe not,if they have accepted what they have been told.
If the scriptures has been put together in harmony,they will see the truth.Adam was at peace with all the animals.
So also will it be in the second paradise.
The students have been taught many doctrines about paradise. Some say it is in the third heaven.
No; it will be on earth.Lions dont eat straw in the third heaven.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,13:51) Hi WU,
Logic should not be enmeshed with the truth should it?
Nick.Logic backed up with scriptures
is obviously not just man's logic.
If you will not accept that as paradise;then you must have another name for it. What is it?Where Christ is ruling;there is paradise.
You still have your doubts in this,I can see.What you are really saying is:
Even if Christ is ruling;it is *not necessary paradise*.
What happened to your faith in Christ? Is He in your eyes just as any other king ruling?Please explain.
wakeup.
Hi WU,
You say
“Where Christ is ruling;there is paradise.”
You should get some popular support for this speculationQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,19:15) Hi WU,
Fools might make up stuff but surely the veracity of the Word of God deserves more respect?
Nick.Tell me straight:
There is not necessary peace on earth even if Christ is in charge. Because this is what you are really insinuating.
You were as saying that in the millenium; is not nesessary peace and prosperity.
Where is that statement coming from?I say: wherever Christ is in charge;there is peace.
It is you with no respect for Christ.
You said; It is not necessary paradise even if Christ is ruling.
Whom is it that you prefer to rule?
Have you got another Christ in mind?wakeup.
Hi WU,
Again you read more into my words than what I wrote.
Where does this come from?You specify a place as paradise without any scriptural evidence
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,04:43) Hi WU,
Again you read more into my words than what I wrote.
Where does this come from?You specify a place as paradise without any scriptural evidence
Nick.Jesus Himself mentioned Paradise.
But you obviously imagined that, as somewhere in the sky.
Without thoroughly seeking the anwer.Jesus was speaking to a jew that is not a christian.
He will be in paradise;in a land of milk and honey.
Not resurrected;but revived.Paradise is a kingdom of the saints *on earth*.
A land of peace for the jews to live.Paradise is not in the sky somewhere.That is pie in the sky.
wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,09:29) Hi WU,
Yes he would be in paradise.the rest is conjecture
Nick.If you believe that it is in some third heaven,
then that is your propblem.You have chosen to believe that.
And now there is some new light come in, and you can not
bear that light.
So; just make a comment.A popular comment used is:
*your opinion*
That is not an aswer to me.
I need scriptures.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,10:00) Hi WU,
You bring LIGHT
or opinion?
Nick.I know that you have never known before, that paradise is the kingdom on earth in jerusalem.
And that kingodm is also paradise to the jews.You have always thought that it was somewhere in the
sky, or some third heaven.You have been given the light,but can not bear light.
Because light will reveal your other false doctrines.
Its called the domino effect.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2014,10:11) Hi,
Does this relate to the second meeting between Jesus and the thief
1Peter 3
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
Nick,v19 is a debatable passage as different English versions state significant different things.
King James Bible
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,10:00) Hi WU,
You bring LIGHT
or opinion?
Wakeup
He wasn't reading those scriptures you gave,
he is too busy trying to give his own OPINION about you personally.
Too busy making personal attacks.
Not seeing the speck in his own eye.
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