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hi gene
your intellect is not the spirit,
your intellect is what your know and what you are, but it is not God spirit it got nothing to do with God spirit,
God spirit is His powerTerraricca……..So a man thinks so He is, and intellect is his mind . LET THIS (mind) be in you that was also in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Jesus said …….The WORDS, i am telling You (ARE) SPIRIT AND LIFE. Question what is SPIRIT and LIFE (THE WORDS ARE) unless you want to argue with Jesus. SO What is a WORD , it is the expression of one (INTELLECT). And by the way it is POWERFUL. Because your intellect controls you and what you do.
gene
Christ like you say The WORDS i am telling you…..are spirit of live….it seems you do not see things the way they are,
the WORDS means what Christ was explaining to them what the do or not to do what to understand how to understand it ,those were the WORDS of the spirit of live,but not the WORDS in it self but the meaning of it .
Terraricca………Why do you think i say the SPIRIT is (INTELLECT) the intellect is what the WORDS GIVE us , in our MIND. YOU think with WORDS, When you speak a (WORD) that is conveying (INTELLECT) or Thought to SOMEONE Right. When Jesus spoke He was conveying GOD'S Thoughts or intellect to US. These thoughts or intellects take lodging in our minds and effect our thinking. We are vessels and Words fill us , rather of GOD or the World. That is why GOD reckons His SPIRIT as WATER to BE poured out. “In the latter days (I) GOD shall (POUR) Forth of (MY) Spirit” -(or intellects, through words)- “upon all flesh”, This has happened through the Words Jesus and the Apostles Spoke to Us, they were GOD the FATHERS WORDS and GOD Had Jesus and the Apostles pour them out for all flesh to have. IMO
gene
could you in your own words explain me what you understand by the “spirit of God ” and the “spirit of Christ” are those the same
or different ?terraricca……..Jesus said the words (spirit) he spoke were (NOT) HIS, but the fathers, the Spirit of Christ (is) the SPIRIT or INTELLECT of the FATHER, (ONE) GOD in ALL and through ALL. HOW? BY (HIS) SPIRIT (INTELLECT) transmitted through WORDS> We are being (WASHED) by the WORDS of GOD, SO. The Spirit of Christos (Anointing) is the SAME Spirit from GOD. It (IS) GOD'S INTELLECT being poured out on mankind through WORDS> They effect the minds and Hearts of men who GOD has prepared for them. Had Jesus been Speaking his (OWN) Words then it would have been a different SPIRIT then the FATHERS, But He clearly said the words he spoke were (NOT) His So the Spirit he was transferring through WORDS to us was (NOT) his either. That intellect, or Spirit Mind that was (IN) Jesus needs to be in us also. Same ONE, that is the SPIRIT of the CHRISTOS (Anointing). Simply put it's GOD words which are Spirit (intellects) shed around in our Hearts or Minds. “Let this mind be (IN) you as was (IN) Christ Jesus our Lord', and again (IF) this mind be in you that was in Christ Jesus our LORD (IT) (ALSO) will quicken your Mortal bodies. Same thing terriaricca no difference.
Peace and love to you and yours……………gene
hi gene
the spirit of God is the will of God ,and it is clear that God as given all powers to Christ so he can bring all people who believes in him to the father,in the way he had teach ed his disciples,and lay down the foundation to salvation for anyone who believe in him.
so the spirit of Christ is his voluntary zeal to obey is father Will and accomplish all things in his father name.so that at the end of it all we be one with him and his father. (all the same desire to do Gods will)Terraicca………True GOD has Put His SPIRIT (IN) Jesus. He has all seven Spirits (intellects) OF GOD (IN) HIM, and These SPIRIT (intellects) are the eyes of GOD that go to and from through out the whole earth. They reside (IN) Jesus by the anointing. In effect it really is GOD the FATHER working (THROUGH) Jesus by the Anointing He HAS. That is why it says concerning the Son Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is forever and ever: a scepter of the kingdom. 9…> Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath (ANOINTED) thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. You see the word ANOINTED THEIR. God has Anointed HIM he has the fullness of the SPIRITS of GOD (IN) HIM. These Spirits guide and direct Jesus, so in effect it is GOD himself doing the WORKS (THROUGH JESUS). We also are guided by the same spirit (intellect) of GOD.That is why Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the Father because the Father was (IN) him, Via the HOLY SPIRITS. But that does (NOT) makes Jesus a GOD HIMSELF. But GOD is certainly their via those Spirits. He can also be in us that way to, “until we come to the (FULL) Measure of Christ”, by (the same anointing).
peace and love to you and yours…………….gene
G,
The Spirit of God is one.
God is on His Throne and the seven spirits of God [angels of God-heb1] are in front of that throne.
You told us this intelllect idea was a silly one and we agreed yet you keep pushing this silly false teaching of yours. Why?Nick,
As this is a vision of heaven could the Seven Spirits of God not represent the seven gifts of the ONE Spirit.
“These are the words of him [Jesus] who holds the seven spirits of God”
“When the Counselor [the Holy Spirit] comes, whom I will send to you from the Father”
“which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth”No where prior to Revelations is there any other mention of Seven Spirits (unless I missed it – happy to be corrected!) but there is mention of seven gifts from the Holy Spirit (I think I note that there is no mention of the Holy Spirit, by name (title?)
gene
you use the word intellect like someone uses the” US Congress”so that what ever you talk about it could be cover in it ,and feel he got it covered in the discussion,the spirit is NOT the INTELLEC
and through him means ,the samething if you put a letter in the mailbox and it was delivered through the mail man to you,he was anointed with gladness above … this is because of the masage God had given him to give to all
being anointed means being choosen.
it as nothing the do with God spirit that you try to make to be something like ,like,liketerraricca …….then please enlighten us as to what SPIRIT (IS). (IF) you truly know? I gave my reasons for believing it is the (INTELLECT) of GOD transmitted through WORDS. AS Jesus said is WORDS (ARE) SPIRIT and LIFE. So lets see you explanation then.
Terraricca……….I don't recall you answering that question, please answer it again for us, WHAT IS SPIRIT< if Not THE INTELLECT of GOD.
hi gene
the Spirit is the power of God, God is spirit he does not share his being he can give you his power or more some of it for some reason he feels useful.
it could be the power of understanding,the power to speak in thongs ,ect.at some point it could represent the fullness of his plan for men,or part of that plan it could be understood in the reading context.
terraricca……..You said it could be the power of understanding the power to speak in things, ect. So Understanding is not (INTELLECT) to you ? It is to me. To me there are SEVEN SPIRIT (INTELLECTS) of ONE GOD. Jesus has these in Him , we also have some of GOD (INTELLECT) in Us (the Spirit (intellect) to understand the truth. We find in Revelations Jesus has these seven Spirit Eyes (or Intellects) in him with seven HORN (powers) connected with these seven Spirit eyes or (intellects) of GOD. That is my understanding of SPIRITS.
To All…….> Mat 13:37….> he answered and said unto them, He that sows the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the childern of the Kingdom; but the tares are the childern of the wicked; The enemy that sowed them is the devil (adversarial Spirit) ; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angles. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. (now notice what it says) The Son of man shall send forth his angles; and they shall gather out of (HIS) (Kingdom) all things the offend (prevent), and them which DO (or practice) iniquity; and shall cast them into (A) Furnace of fire. there shall be waling and gnashing of teeth. Then Shall the righteous shine as the sun in the Kingdom (notice this) of their Father. Who hath ears to hear let him hear.
It is out of Jesus Christs KINGDOM at the end of this world that this division takes place and the Righteous are delievered into the (Kingdom) of (THEIR) (FATHER). TWO Different KINGDOMS are Mentioned Here. One of Christ Jesus and another of the FATHER. This transference takes place at the (END) of Jesus' Millennial reign with the saints on earth.
peace and love to you all……………….gene
gene
the seed is the good news of the kingdom and the knowledge to understand it.MT 13:18 “ Hear then the parable of the sower.
MT 13:19 “When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is the one on whom seed was sown beside the road.
MT 13:20 “The one on whom seed was sown on the rocky places, this is the man who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy;
MT 13:21 yet he has no firm root in himself, but is only temporary, and when affliction or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he falls away.
MT 13:22 “And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
MT 13:23 “And the one on whom seed was sown on the good soil, this is the man who hears the word and understands it; who indeed bears fruit and brings forth, some a hundredfold, some sixty, and some thirtyyour interpretation is bad very bad;the good seed are the childern of the Kingdom
the seeds his the word of God, the ground is the people
no wander you don't agree with free will the way you twisting scriptures
Terraricca……..Can't you stay on the scriptures being discussed, The parable of the sower is a different Parables , I was not even descussing. Truth is your tricks of changing subject matter is what is twisting up scriptures being discussed. I believe you are here just to argue and falsely accuse no matter what subject is being discussed. Try going to you bible and reading the posted scriptures before you start rambling on about something that is not even being talked about, that would help us all out here. IMO
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