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Georg……….Think abut this , the evil in the earth is removed at the beginning of the thousand year rule of Christ and the Saints, there exists (No) evil influences. So the world will naturally follow Jesus and the Saints rule. Even the nature of the animals will change also. But what happens at the end when evil is released again they all fall,and turn against the Saints and Jesus. Why would that happen if their minds were all opened to the truth of GOD? Georg the Judgment Begin's after the thousand year Period> IMO
Nick
Hab 2:14 For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
Can you say, we are living in that time now?
Zep 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of the LORD, to serve him with one consent.
Do people do this now?
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
You could say we are living in these days now.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
This has not happened yet either, but we are close for it to happen.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Neither has this occurred yet, but it will, once Zec. 14:2 has happened.
Isa 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.
Isa 24:6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
This is what Jesus will begin with, few men, when he begins to rule, and the numbers grow as the dead are being resurrected. This will also be the beginning of the books that are written for each and every one, and by what will be written in those books, you will be judged.
Helping your neighbor in the millennium, will be a requirement then, as it should be now, it is a sign of loving your neighbor. There will be those that will be so selfish then, as there are now; that is what the parable of Lazarus and the rich man is all about. Those that will not fulfill the law, love is the fulfilling of the law, will receive everlasting punishment, second death, Mat. 25:46.Georg
Hi Georg,
The earth being filled with knowledge does not state that King Jesus will be busy teaching those of the world. That is a big assumption.
The brothers too are appointed as kings and priests so no teaching role spoken of there either
The Spirit of God teaches the brothers from within.[1jn2]Hi Georg,
There is no gradual resurrection like you imagine.
The few in Christ will be raised to meet with him in the air.
Then after 1000 years the rest will be raised to face the sheep and goat judgement.
Then the books already written containing the names of those in Christ and the actions taken by all in their lifetime will be opened.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 12 2010,03:34) Georg……….Think abut this , the evil in the earth is removed at the beginning of the thousand year rule of Christ and the Saints, there exists (No) evil influences. So the world will naturally follow Jesus and the Saints rule. Even the nature of the animals will change also. But what happens at the end when evil is released again they all fall,and turn against the Saints and Jesus. Why would that happen if their minds were all opened to the truth of GOD? Georg the Judgment Begin's after the thousand year Period> IMO
GB,
Satan is imprisoned for 1000 years and his kingdom cannot function without his rule. The strong man will be bound.Then his dominion of darkness will be restored to light and the last enemy destroyed is death.
Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 11 2010,17:31) terraricca (((the judgment belong to God ,but men are and will be judged,according to what
)))Jesus did not come the first time to save the world; he came to die for our sins, and to give us the new covenant. But this covenant is not for everybody because it is a covenant in blood, by sacrifice. Only those that were predestined to be called/drawn by God, to Jesus, were likely to follow him into death. They were chosen by God before time to rule and reign with Christ, in his kingdom.
Jn 5:22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
What does this scripture tell you? why does the Father judges no one? What does judging mean?
Why did Peter say, “For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God”?
The house of God is the church of God, the saints. How were they judged? were they not rather taught? Judging does not mean sentencing, how can you sentence any one without a trial first?
Jesus came to save the world, not to condemn the world; if the world is not first taught, how can Jesus save the world?
That is why God has left all judging/teaching to the son until all sin has been removed.(((is the blind person drawn
)))None of the people Jesus healed were “drawn”, they were chosen at random to show the power of God. Spiritual blindness will prevail until Christ begins to reign, than God will open the minds of all people, including those that never even heard the name Jesus before, that is when he will draw all people to Jesus. Then books will be opened and record every once progress, and after a given time the book will be opened, and if you have not listened to the teaching, have not made any progress, your name will not be in the book of life.
Georg
georg1Jn 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6 If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
1Jn 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
1Jn 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.
1Jn 2:4 The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.the judgment of God is made trough Christ ,if you walk with Christ you are saved if you do not you are condemne because your refusal to walk Christ way.
1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.
1Jn 2:17 The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.1Jn 3:3 Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure.
1Jn 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.1Jn 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
1Jn 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
1Jn 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
1Jn 4:4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
1Jn 4:5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.the separation is done by men him selve through the faith in Christ,
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 12 2010,03:34) Georg……….Think abut this , the evil in the earth is removed at the beginning of the thousand year rule of Christ and the Saints, there exists (No) evil influences. So the world will naturally follow Jesus and the Saints rule. Even the nature of the animals will change also. But what happens at the end when evil is released again they all fall,and turn against the Saints and Jesus. Why would that happen if their minds were all opened to the truth of GOD? Georg the Judgment Begin's after the thousand year Period> IMO
GeneOnly Satan and his devils are bound.
Rev 20:1 ¶ And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
We all have to overcome our own faults and false ideas about religion as all of us will be taught the truth. There will be no other religions, no denominations, to choose from; they will all have been destroyed. We have to choose to do the right thing as we understand it, we have to grow in truth and understanding, it will not be automatic; that is why Peter told us this.
Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
If you WILL NOT listen, not that you can not, you will be destroyed.
It is not Satan's influence you have to overcome, it will be your own bad habits that you have to overcome.
There will many new babies born during the thousand years, they will grow up learning only God's truth, but never experiencing the deceptive powers of Satan; God will test their loyalty too, and unfortunately, many will not pass the test.Rev 20:7 ¶ And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2010,04:51) Hi Georg,
The earth being filled with knowledge does not state that King Jesus will be busy teaching those of the world. That is a big assumption.
The brothers too are appointed as kings and priests so no teaching role spoken of there either
The Spirit of God teaches the brothers from within.[1jn2]
NickYou are so good in refuting what I say, You have three post, two addressed to me, and one to gene, not one has scripture in it backing up what you say. You are full of assumption, opinions, guesses, and maybes, but no truth.
Don't you ever get tired of stirring the pot?Georg
Hi Georg,
Scripture is easily manipulated to make it say what we want.
It is better to follow the principle of 2Cor 13.1 and let it speak and support itself.Nick
Then what are you doing here?
Scripture is manipulated only by those that don't understand it.Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2010,07:33) Hi Georg,
Many who claim to have wisdom do not.
Wisdom is justified by her children.
And, are you the father of them?Georg
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 12 2010,07:52) Hi Georg,
Understanding is owned by nobody.
We are all students here.
No we're not, students are willing to learn, nobody here is doing that. Everybody is a teacher.Georg
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2010,06:47) Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 11 2010,17:31) terraricca (((the judgment belong to God ,but men are and will be judged,according to what
)))Jesus did not come the first time to save the world; he came to die for our sins, and to give us the new covenant. But this covenant is not for everybody because it is a covenant in blood, by sacrifice. Only those that were predestined to be called/drawn by God, to Jesus, were likely to follow him into death. They were chosen by God before time to rule and reign with Christ, in his kingdom.
Jn 5:22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son,
What does this scripture tell you? why does the Father judges no one? What does judging mean?
Why did Peter say, “For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God”?
The house of God is the church of God, the saints. How were they judged? were they not rather taught? Judging does not mean sentencing, how can you sentence any one without a trial first?
Jesus came to save the world, not to condemn the world; if the world is not first taught, how can Jesus save the world?
That is why God has left all judging/teaching to the son until all sin has been removed.(((is the blind person drawn
)))None of the people Jesus healed were “drawn”, they were chosen at random to show the power of God. Spiritual blindness will prevail until Christ begins to reign, than God will open the minds of all people, including those that never even heard the name Jesus before, that is when he will draw all people to Jesus. Then books will be opened and record every once progress, and after a given time the book will be opened, and if you have not listened to the teaching, have not made any progress, your name will not be in the book of life.
Georg
georg1Jn 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
1Jn 1:6 If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth.
1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
1Jn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
1Jn 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
1Jn 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.
1Jn 2:4 The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him:
1Jn 2:6 Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.the judgment of God is made trough Christ ,if you walk with Christ you are saved if you do not you are condemne because your refusal to walk Christ way.
1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.
1Jn 2:17 The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.1Jn 3:3 Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure.
1Jn 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.1Jn 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
1Jn 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
1Jn 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
1Jn 4:4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
1Jn 4:5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.
1Jn 4:6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.the separation is done by men him selve through the faith in Christ,
terrariccaI'm sorry, but I have to ask, what is your question?
Georg
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