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- March 29, 2012 at 7:23 am#288735
NickHassan
ParticipantHi ED,
Oneness teaches that the Father and the Holy Spirit are one and the same PERSON and that Jesus IS the Father incarnate.They seem to hold to some of the catholic concepts such as incarnation [becoming the Son] at birth while rejecting others such as THREE PERSONS
They hold that the Spirit of Jesus pre existed as God but was not another BEING.
But while God manifests in creation by His Spirit God resides in heaven. That Spirit is Of Him but He is more than His Spirit.
The Word was of His Spirit and in Him and with Him before manifesting in the prophets, with the Israelites in the desert and then in Jesus as Christ.
That Word was in the form of God but emptied Himself of glory and authority to come as the Servant Spirit and show men how to relate to God.
Remaining one with God the Word is different as an image is to the Original. Now the Servant Son is at the right hand of God in heaven.
That is how I see it
March 29, 2012 at 7:45 am#288737Ed J
ParticipantHi Nick,
Do you agree with what you described in this post?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 29, 2012 at 8:06 am#288743NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
Not the oneness ideas-the first three lines.March 29, 2012 at 8:20 am#288748Ed J
ParticipantMarch 29, 2012 at 8:23 am#288749NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
So what do you not accept?March 29, 2012 at 8:34 am#288753NickHassan
ParticipantHi Ed,
Your position that the Spirit IS the Father seems closer to oneness.
Likewise your position that the WORD IS the Spirit.
Perhaps I have heard you wrong.March 29, 2012 at 8:35 am#288754Ed J
ParticipantHi Nick,
I don't like to play the game of disagreements, but rather of mutual understanding.
I will write one sentence explaining the way I understand things instead.
Jesus as a baptized human, was a fractal of the entirety of God.That is what I understand the essence of this to mean…
“Who is the image of the invisible God” (Col 1:15)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMarch 29, 2012 at 9:01 am#288757NickHassan
ParticipantThanks Ed
March 29, 2012 at 5:30 pm#288780terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,01:23) Hi ED,
Oneness teaches that the Father and the Holy Spirit are one and the same PERSON and that Jesus IS the Father incarnate.They seem to hold to some of the catholic concepts such as incarnation [becoming the Son] at birth while rejecting others such as THREE PERSONS
They hold that the Spirit of Jesus pre existed as God but was not another BEING.
But while God manifests in creation by His Spirit God resides in heaven. That Spirit is Of Him but He is more than His Spirit.
The Word was of His Spirit and in Him and with Him before manifesting in the prophets, with the Israelites in the desert and then in Jesus as Christ.
That Word was in the form of God but emptied Himself of glory and authority to come as the Servant Spirit and show men how to relate to God.
Remaining one with God the Word is different as an image is to the Original. Now the Servant Son is at the right hand of God in heaven.
That is how I see it
Nthis is of the spirit ,
that is the spirit,all is in the spirit
ect……………..
WHAT IS THE SPIRIT
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March 29, 2012 at 6:27 pm#288789NickHassan
ParticipantHi T,
You need to seek this blessing from above.
It is still promised.[acts 2.39]The Spirit is the manifestation of our loving God within reach of us.
acts 17.18-28
March 29, 2012 at 7:12 pm#288794terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,12:27) Hi T,
You need to seek this blessing from above.
It is still promised.[acts 2.39]The Spirit is the manifestation of our loving God within reach of us.
acts 17.18-28
Nyou just do not know and like a parrot you repeat words with out you understanding the meaning of what it is meant .
March 29, 2012 at 7:28 pm#288801NickHassan
Participanthi T,
So you say.
ACCUSING again?March 29, 2012 at 8:19 pm#288813terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,13:28) hi T,
So you say.
ACCUSING again?
NI do not accuse you ,you do that through the words you give ,and you feel that what you say has to be accepted has is ,and as always you are short on words ,are you afraid to speak
there are many spirits ,this word appears over and over again and I know it does not always mean the same thing ,
but you try to make a statement ,what is not the reflection of the word or a meaning of it ,
so what should I do ?? congratulate you and become a hypocrite ,wen I know very well your answer does not do the cut,Nick I wish you could my best friend if you would do this to me and show me were I went ashtray,in scriptures,it is out of love for the live that is in you from God that I take the time to do this ,so that we can grow in our faith and hope,
God bless
March 29, 2012 at 8:41 pm#288818NickHassan
ParticipantHi T,
The natural mind cannot grasp spiritual things.
Your need can only be supplied by God.March 29, 2012 at 9:26 pm#288829terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,14:41) Hi T,
The natural mind cannot grasp spiritual things.
Your need can only be supplied by God.
Nif you do not go to God with a pure heart you never will understand anything ;
God does not supply truth to the wickets
March 29, 2012 at 9:34 pm#288831NickHassan
ParticipantHi T,
So you are righteous and we are wicked?March 30, 2012 at 12:11 am#288867terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,15:34) Hi T,
So you are righteous and we are wicked?
Nare you a wicket
March 30, 2012 at 12:28 am#288870NickHassan
ParticipantHi T,
What to you is a wicket?March 30, 2012 at 1:59 pm#288946terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 30 2012,18:28) Hi T,
What to you is a wicket?
Nwhat is a wicket according to scriptures
never mind me
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