Objects Of Hatred

[NickHassan]

Hi Charity,
To question is good.
To refuse questioning is folly.

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,

Nehemiah was also aware of the mercies spoken of by David, a king and prophet who is a type of Christ.
2 Samuel 24:14
And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let us fall now into the hand of the LORD; for his mercies are great: and let me not fall into the hand of man.

1 Chronicles 21:13
And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the LORD; for very great are his mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man.

2 Chronicles 6:42
O LORD God, turn not away the face of thine anointed: remember the mercies of David thy servant.

Nehemiah 9:19
Yet thou in thy manifold mercies forsookest them not in the wilderness: the pillar of the cloud departed not from them by day, to lead them in the way; neither the pillar of fire by night, to shew them light, and the way wherein they should go.

Nehemiah 9:27
Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.

Nehemiah 9:28
But after they had rest, they did evil again before thee: therefore leftest thou them in the land of their enemies, so that they had the dominion over them: yet when they returned, and cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and many times didst thou deliver them according to thy mercies;

Nehemiah 9:31
Nevertheless for thy great mercies' sake thou didst not utterly consume them, nor forsake them; for thou art a gracious and merciful God.

[charity]

God has alowed these Books for us search?

And the book of chronicles??

The same story told by two sets of eyes two differnt books the mind of the authors have seen diffrently
Glory given to the Lord who moved David in Sa 24;1
2Sa 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

1Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.( Glory to Satan)

The numbers handed in to King David are not corresponding in these two books; , this concerns the threshing floor for all of us and the building of kingdom that was to come threatened by opostion?

One aknowledges a king, and the other is just David that satan provked.
2Sa 24:9 And Joab gave up the sum of the number of the people unto the king: and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men that drew the sword; and the men of Judah [were] five hundred thousand men.
1Ch 21:5 And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all [they of] Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah [was] four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword.

Thanks Nick it is better to sharpn Iron against Iron for the truth

charity

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Who can count?

[charity]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2007,06:48)

Hi charity, Who can count?

perhaps those that hade a king?

Pro 30:27 The locusts have no king, yet go they forth all of them by bands;
No king aknowleged
Neh 9:34 Neither have *our kings*, our princes, our priests, nor our fathers, kept thy law, nor hearkened unto thy commandments and thy testimonies, wherewith thou didst testify against them.

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Neh 9
“1Now in the twenty and fourth day of this month the children of Israel were assembled with fasting, and with sackclothes, and earth upon them.

2And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers.

3And they stood up in their place, and read in the book of the law of the LORD their God one fourth part of the day; and another fourth part they confessed, and worshipped the LORD their God.

4Then stood up upon the stairs, of the Levites, Jeshua, and Bani, Kadmiel, Shebaniah, Bunni, Sherebiah, Bani, and Chenani, and cried with a loud voice unto the LORD their God.

5Then the Levites, Jeshua, and Kadmiel, Bani, Hashabniah, Sherebiah, Hodijah, Shebaniah, and Pethahiah, said, Stand up and bless the LORD your God for ever and ever: and blessed be thy glorious name, which is exalted above all blessing and praise.

6Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

7Thou art the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;

8And foundest his heart faithful before thee, and madest a covenant with him to give the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Jebusites, and the Girgashites, to give it, I say, to his seed, and hast performed thy words; for thou art righteous:

9And didst see the affliction of our fathers in Egypt, and heardest their cry by the Red sea;

10And shewedst signs and wonders upon Pharaoh, and on all his servants, and on all the people of his land: for thou knewest that they dealt proudly against them. So didst thou get thee a name, as it is this day.

11And thou didst divide the sea before them, so that they went through the midst of the sea on the dry land; and their persecutors thou threwest into the deeps, as a stone into the mighty waters.

12Moreover thou leddest them in the day by a cloudy pillar; and in the night by a pillar of fire, to give them light in the way wherein they should go.

13Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:

14And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:

15And gavest them bread from heaven for their hunger, and broughtest forth water for them out of the rock for their thirst, and promisedst them that they should go in to possess the land which thou hadst sworn to give them.

16But they and our fathers dealt proudly, and hardened their necks, and hearkened not to thy commandments,

17And refused to obey, neither were mindful of thy wonders that thou didst among them; but hardened their necks, and in their rebellion appointed a captain to return to their bondage: but thou art a God ready to pardon, gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness, and forsookest them not.

18Yea, when they had made them a molten calf, and said, This is thy God that brought thee up out of Egypt, and had wrought great provocations;

19Yet thou in thy manifold mercies forsookest them not in the wilderness: the pillar of the cloud departed not from them by day, to lead them in the way; neither the pillar of fire by night, to shew them light, and the way wherein they should go.

20Thou gavest also thy good spirit to instruct them, and withheldest not thy manna from their mouth, and gavest them water for their thirst.

21Yea, forty years didst thou sustain them in the wilderness, so that they lacked nothing; their clothes waxed not old, and their feet swelled not.

22Moreover thou gavest them kingdoms and nations, and didst divide them into corners: so they possessed the land of Sihon, and the land of the king of Heshbon, and the land of Og king of Bashan.

23Their children also multipliedst thou as the stars of heaven, and broughtest them into the land, concerning which thou hadst promised to their fathers, that they should go in to possess it.

24So the children went in and possessed the land, and thou subduedst before them the inhabitants of the land, the Canaanites, and gavest them into their hands, with their kings, and the people of the land, that they might do with them as they would.

25And they took strong cities, and a fat land, and possessed houses full of all goods, wells digged, vineyards, and oliveyards, and fruit trees in abundance: so they did eat, and were filled, and became fat, and delighted themselves in thy great goodness.

26Nevertheless they were disobedient, and rebelled against thee, and cast thy law behind their backs, and slew thy prophets which testified against them to turn them to thee, and they wrought great provocations.

27Therefore thou deliveredst them into the hand of their enemies, who vexed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.

28But after they had rest, they did evil again before thee: therefore leftest thou them in the land of their enemies, so that they had the dominion over them: yet when they returned, and cried unto thee, thou heardest them from heaven; and many times didst thou deliver them according to thy mercies;

29And testifiedst against them, that thou mightest bring them again unto thy law: yet they dealt proudly, and hearkened not unto thy commandments, but sinned against thy judgments, (which if a man do, he shall live in them;) and withdrew the shoulder, and hardened their neck, and would not hear.

30Yet many years didst thou forbear them, and testifiedst against them by thy spirit in thy prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore gavest thou them into the hand of the people of the lands.

31Nevertheless for thy great mercies' sake thou didst not utterly consume them, nor forsake them; for thou art a gracious and merciful God.

32Now therefore, our God, the great, the mighty, and the terrible God, who keepest covenant and mercy, let not all the trouble seem little before thee, that hath come upon us, on our kings, on our princes, and on our priests, and on our prophets, and on our fathers, and on all thy people, since the time of the kings of Assyria unto this day.

33Howbeit thou art just in all that is brought upon us; for thou hast done right, but we have done wickedly:

34Neither have our kings, our princes, our priests, nor our fathers, kept thy law, nor hearkened unto thy commandments and thy testimonies, wherewith thou didst testify against them.

35For they have not served thee in their kingdom, and in thy great goodness that thou gavest them, and in the large and fat land which thou gavest before them, neither turned they from their wicked works.

36Behold, we are servants this day, and for the land that thou gavest unto our fathers to eat the fruit thereof and the good thereof, behold, we are servants in it:

37And it yieldeth much increase unto the kings whom thou hast set over us because of our sins: also they have dominion over our bodies, and over our cattle, at their pleasure, and we are in great distress.

38And because of all this we make a sure covenant, and write it; and our princes, Levites, and priests, seal unto it.”
You think God was happy with the Israelites and all this was unnecessary?
God is a holy God Who demands higher standards from His people.

[charity]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2007,07:20)

Hi charity, Neh 9 “1Now in the twenty and fourth day of this month the children of Israel were assembled with fasting, and with sackclothes, and earth upon them. 2And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers. 3And they stood up in their place, and read in the book of people.

Hi nick

2And the seed of Israel separated themselves by who's order?This [is] the law of him that hath an issue?

Lev 15:31 ¶ Thus shall ye separate the children of Israel from their uncleanness; that they die not in their uncleanness, when they defile my tabernacle that [is] among them.
Lev 15:32 This [is] the law of him that hath an issue, and [of him] whose seed goeth from him, and is defiled therewith;

Seed of which God obeying?

Calling all strangers just obey the King
Psa 18:44 As soon as they hear of me, they shall obey me: the strangers shall submit themselves unto me.
Psa 18:45 The strangers shall fade away, and be afraid out of their close places.
Psa 18:46 The LORD liveth; and blessed [be] my rock; and let the God of my salvation be exalted.

They had the book of the law read to them by Nehemiah instead of covernant of sure mercy?

Neh3And they stood up in their place, and read in the book of the law of the LORD their God one fourth part of the day; and another fourth part they confessed, and worshipped the LORD their God.

And then he makes a covenent and writes it?I charge you with Has any prophet made the covnents writen them and told God whats what ever before?
38And because of all this we make a sure covenant, and write it; and our princes, Levites, and priests, seal unto it.”

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Crucible cleansing.

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Are you one with whom we must agree or anger follows?
True prophets work for another and do not expect good wages now.

[charity]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 24 2007,08:03)

Hi charity, Crucible cleansing.

Nick the threshing floor sacrifice was for the whole of Israel and seed to come.

What is this man doing?

I am not sure that you understand me?

And No Im not angry

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
The fall of babylon as in Rev 17-18
Is 21
1The burden of the desert of the sea. As whirlwinds in the south pass through; so it cometh from the desert, from a terrible land.

2A grievous vision is declared unto me; the treacherous dealer dealeth treacherously, and the spoiler spoileth. Go up, O Elam: besiege, O Media; all the sighing thereof have I made to cease.

3Therefore are my loins filled with pain: pangs have taken hold upon me, as the pangs of a woman that travaileth: I was bowed down at the hearing of it; I was dismayed at the seeing of it.

4My heart panted, fearfulness affrighted me: the night of my pleasure hath he turned into fear unto me.

5Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise, ye princes, and anoint the shield.

6For thus hath the LORD said unto me, Go, set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth.

7And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed:

8And he cried, A lion: My lord, I stand continually upon the watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights:

9And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.

10O my threshing, and the corn of my floor: that which I have heard of the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, have I declared unto you.

11The burden of Dumah. He calleth to me out of Seir, Watchman, what of the night? Watchman, what of the night?

12The watchman said, The morning cometh, and also the night: if ye will enquire, enquire ye: return, come.

[NickHassan]

Hi charity.
Peace and security then..
The final betrayal of Israel?
Run for the hills..

[charity]

Chioce… each soul has put itself under a covenant to follow, cause of hatred and suffering and over the right one chosen

Don't be fearful to mingle the wines of these covnenants
it leads only to rest walking uncorruptible, which no man can take from you nor close the door of finished
but shall bring disaproval of even those close family
Blessed is he that leaves family, he shall receive seven fold rewards.

If we want to our sins to be as far as the east is to west and not be number for the lot to receive the plagues we must be counted as part of the seed from the threshing floor sacrifice.
That Satan frustrated, in the counting of Israel that some would not partake and come to battle.
Of whom the seed of David our savoir Jesus was announced sinless in his life after his Father was bruised and numbered with the sinners to sacrifice under the covenant delivered by Moses to the sinners those with out faith.
David was cut off out of the land of the living curse to corruption; his seed saw no corruption and Christ shall declare his generation as living
He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? For he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

He shall prolong his days when his soul shall be the resurrection of life made an offering to justify many.
Isa 53:10 ¶ Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put [him] to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see [his] seed, he shall prolong [his] days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
Isa 53:11  He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

David said it is written of me his soul Psa 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book [it is] written of me,
Sacrifice and offering you wouldest not except except he sacrifice the soul of his new life to finish the threshing floor once and for all men.
Hbr 10:7  Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Hbr 10:8  Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and [offering] for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure [therein]; which are offered by the law;
Hbr 10:9  Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
Hbr 10:10  By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all].

For the full remission of sins we must Go to King David and mourn over his rejection and care towards the coming Kingdom that  his heart brought to us all a savoir that paid for all man with his life
Hbr 4:7  Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Hbr 4:8  For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

Choice of covenant Moses or David’s; Isaiah beseeches the people to David’s covenant for the soul to live; two gospels two choices even back then.
Isa 55:3  Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, [even] the sure mercies of David.
Isa 55:4  Behold, I have given him [for] a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
Isa 55:5  Behold, thou shalt call a nation [that] thou knowest not, and nations [that] knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.
Isa 55:6 ¶ Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near Isa 55:7  Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isa 55:8 ¶ For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
Isa 55:9  For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Would you be above the proven servants of God to set one against another?

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Is 55
“1Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.

2Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

3Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

4Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.

5Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.

6Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

7Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

8For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

9For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

10For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:

11So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. “

This covenant here is the new covenant of Christ exemplified in type by David, King , prophet and beloved of God.

Christ had these same words in his mouth[v1] when he spoke in Jn 7.

Moses served to challenge faith and test men as to who would find the Spirit of the God of love within the OT regulations.

[charity]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2007,00:12)

Hi charity, Would you be above the proven servants of God to set one against another?

Hey that sounds like what they asked Christ before they condemned to death?

Charged with Thinking more of ones self than one should perhaps?

Yet some don't have mirrors at home and get about not knowing what they themselves appear to others like?

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Sit at the feet of all those approved by God.
Do not judge them nor divide them as they are of God.
Seek the essence they are charged with bringing
into the glorious tapestry that is faith.

[charity]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2007,01:34)

Hi charity, Sit at the feet of all those approved by God. Do not judge them nor divide them as they are of God. Seek the essence they are charged with bringing into the glorious tapestry that is faith.

Sorry Nick that’s a sandwich short of a picnic

Its end times everyone’s thinks he’s A son of God and ordained

O lord give me some one that I my rest in safty at his feet

Just a honest heart

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Will you also be the judge of their honesty?
Would you have listened to Elisha and bathed seven times?

2Kings 5
13And his servants came near, and spake unto him, and said, My father, if the prophet had bid thee do some great thing, wouldest thou not have done it? how much rather then, when he saith to thee, Wash, and be clean?

14Then went he down, and dipped himself seven times in Jordan, according to the saying of the man of God: and his flesh came again like unto the flesh of a little child, and he was clean.

15And he returned to the man of God, he and all his company, and came, and stood before him: and he said, Behold, now I know that there is no God in all the earth, but in Israel: now therefore, I pray thee, take a blessing of thy servant.

[NickHassan]

Hi charity,
Harmony is found in the Word of God.
Harmony is not sameness.
Grace is individual.

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