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Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2009,21:35) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2009,17:00) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2009,17:03) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36) Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.
When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.Stuart
When you claim to believe that nothing is the cause of all things, it means that your brain originated from nothing according to your own belief.I close my case.
You would be right about that, logically.Why? Who is claiming that?
Stuart
Ultimately if you wind the tape back, your brain is made up of particles that have been used elsewhere and if you go back far enough before the Big Bang, there was nothing. Nothing is the origin of your brain according to your no God theory.Quote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55) Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth.
Are you sure it isn't 70 million years and 2 days? Can you prove it isn't?Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2009,22:12) Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2009,21:35) Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2009,17:00) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2009,17:03) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36) Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.
When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.Stuart
When you claim to believe that nothing is the cause of all things, it means that your brain originated from nothing according to your own belief.I close my case.
You would be right about that, logically.Why? Who is claiming that?
Stuart
Ultimately if you wind the tape back, your brain is made up of particles that have been used elsewhere and if you go back far enough before the Big Bang, there was nothing. Nothing is the origin of your brain according to your no God theory.
So you are claiming there was nothing before the big bang? That is brave of you.Anyway, let's move on because we have discussed this, and I have explained it to you ad nauseam, and for some reason you seem to have missed the subtle difference between the lack of anything, and the positive actions of the thing you call 'nothing'.
Since your grasp on big bang cosmology is almost non-existent, and mine tenuous at best, shall we keep this a bit simpler?
There was a time when there were no brains and now there are brains, and there is an explanation that is falsifiable and evidence-based for how the brains got to be here, first published by Darwin in 1859 and not dented by any creationist since.
I am happy to treat 'no brains' as 'nothing' for the purpose of the point you would like to make.
So, what is your point?
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2009,22:14) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55) Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth.
Are you sure it isn't 70 million years and 2 days? Can you prove it isn't?
I am happy to go with 70MY and 2 days if you want t8. That makes the creation of the earth due to happen some time next week, which is just as credible a creationist claim as any.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 11 2009,21:35) You would be right about that, logically. Why? Who is claiming that?
Stuart
You are by saying that it is one of the possibilities.
Your other possibility is that something has existed for eternity and that something is not God.In that case your brain is the result of blind chance.
You are saying it.
My brain was engineered.
Quote (Stu @ Dec. 12 2009,09:15) So you are claiming there was nothing before the big bang? That is brave of you.
No, that is what your uncreated brain concludes.
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