Nz dinosaur tracks 70 mya

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  • #155460
    Stu
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    Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth.

    Impossible!

    Could it be?

    Stuart

    #155535
    Is 1:18
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    Supposedly 65 million year old dinosaur bones found with muscle, connective tissue, blood cells still attached….

    Impossible!!

    No, really it is….

    :)  :D  :cool:

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    Is 1:18
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    #155660
    Stu
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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 08 2009,17:55)
    Supposedly 65 million year old dinosaur bones found with muscle, connective tissue, blood cells still attached….

    Impossible!!

    No, really it is….

    :)  :D  :cool:


    You have not dealt with this:

    “The proteins were recovered from a hadrosaur femur that had been encased in sandstone, which appears to prevent complete tissue degradation, Asara said. “

    In other words, why is it impossible for protein molecules to survive that long?

    Stuart

    #155661
    Stu
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    Quote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 08 2009,18:07)
    List of other not so old stuff….


    This one is a load of nonsense, emphasised by gems like this:

    “The evolutionist source LiveScience.com reports, “Land Speed Record: Mountain Moves 62 Miles in 30 Minutes.”

    Is that biological 'evolutionists' who are the source of such things? What would they know about geology?

    Unless they mean to say the geological time scale…

    Stuart

    #155662
    Stu
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    Regarding soft tissue fossils, the Holy Wikipedia includes this in its article on fossils:

    Preservation of soft tissues is rare in the fossil record.

    That is rare, not impossible or unheard of.

    More:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news….ue.html

    http://www.physorg.com/news176660912.html

    It would seem that it is only a tenet of creationism that soft tissue fossilisation is impossible.

    Stuart

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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55)
    Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth.

    Impossible!

    Could it be?

    Stuart


    So what?

    Doesn't disprove God.
    Might disprove the 6000 year old earth theory, but that doesn't disprove what is in scripture.

    I am sure that there were many ages before this one.

    #155800
    Stu
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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 10 2009,14:36)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55)
    Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth.

    Impossible!

    Could it be?

    Stuart


    So what?

    Doesn't disprove God.
    Might disprove the 6000 year old earth theory, but that doesn't disprove what is in scripture.

    I am sure that there were many ages before this one.


    Good to see the 6,000 year lie does not have you in its thrall t8!

    Stuart

    #155853
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    I think there are extremists on both sides of this debate.
    Extremists have a way of getting most coverage by the press.
    So people hear their views more than they should.

    #156036
    Stu
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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 10 2009,19:48)
    I think there are extremists on both sides of this debate.
    Extremists have a way of getting most coverage by the press.
    So people hear their views more than they should.


    What debate?

    Stuart

    #157481
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    Don't worry about it.

    #157516
    Stu
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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,14:16)
    Don't worry about it.


    If you are saying there is no debate, then I agree.

    Stuart

    #157520
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    Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.

    #157526
    Stu
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    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36)
    Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.


    When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.

    Stuart

    #163515
    david
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    I've been away studying coprolites. What have I missed?

    #163520
    Stu
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    Quote (david @ Dec. 10 2009,18:01)
    I've been away studying coprolites.  What have I missed?


    David!

    You've missed nothing. It's all coprolites here too.

    Stuart

    #163741
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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2009,17:03)

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36)
    Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.


    When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.

    Stuart


    When you claim to believe that nothing is the cause of all things, it means that your brain originated from nothing according to your own belief.

    I close my case.

    :D

    #163755
    david
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    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55)
    Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth.

    Impossible!

    Could it be?

    Stuart


    “In the beginning [of creation], God created the heavens and the earth.”

    The Bible doesn't state when this took place. This could have been 14 billion years ago. And I know the earth isn't 14 billion years old. But understand that chapter 1 of Genesis is about the earth. But to begin, we have to be told that the earth didn't always exist. Verse one isn't extremely specific, but I understand it to mean:
    “In the beginning God created everything, all matter, including the earth [of which we are about to discuss]”

    Or, “God created the heavens (universe) including the earth.”

    This doesn't have to mean that the universe and the earth were created at the same moment. The earth is a part of the universe, and the matter came about at that moment.

    Then, Genesis gets more specific and starts looking at the days (Epochs) of creation.

    Anyway, since these verses aren't really specific at all, it's hard to make an argument against them.

    Stu, rather, you should study dinosaur poop for a while. It's fascinating. Some of the coprolites have bone in them. Do you know how easy it is to get dinosaur poop? Very.

    #163772
    Stu
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    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2009,17:00)

    Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2009,17:03)

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36)
    Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.


    When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.

    Stuart


    When you claim to believe that nothing is the cause of all things, it means that your brain originated from nothing according to your own belief.

    I close my case.

    :D


    You would be right about that, logically.

    Why? Who is claiming that?

    Stuart

    #163776
    Stu
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    David

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    “In the beginning [of creation], God created the heavens and the earth.” The Bible doesn't state when this took place. This could have been 14 billion years ago. And I know the earth isn't 14 billion years old.


    You have no way of determining that it was not 6,000 years ago. Once you assert magic happened, you have to be prepared to acknowledge that the magic could include your own deception.

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    But understand that chapter 1 of Genesis is about the earth. But to begin, we have to be told that the earth didn't always exist. Verse one isn't extremely specific, but I understand it to mean:
    “In the beginning God created everything, all matter, including the earth [of which we are about to discuss]” Or, “God created the heavens (universe) including the earth.” This doesn't have to mean that the universe and the earth were created at the same moment. The earth is a part of the universe, and the matter came about at that moment.


    That could be all part of the magic, or maybe not. Physics says that the matter is still being created…and destroyed. Does it mention that in Genesis too, or are you just trying to stretch natural history to make it fit Genesis again?

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    Then, Genesis gets more specific and starts looking at the days (Epochs) of creation. Anyway, since these verses aren't really specific at all, it's hard to make an argument against them.


    Or indeed any argument for them!

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    Stu, rather, you should study dinosaur poop for a while. It's fascinating. Some of the coprolites have bone in them. Do you know how easy it is to get dinosaur poop? Very.


    I believe you! I am sure it is available in both literal and metaphorical.

    Stuart

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