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- November 7, 2009 at 7:55 pm#155460StuParticipant
Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth.
Could it be?
Stuart
November 8, 2009 at 6:55 am#155535Is 1:18ParticipantSupposedly 65 million year old dinosaur bones found with muscle, connective tissue, blood cells still attached….
November 8, 2009 at 7:07 am#155537Is 1:18ParticipantNovember 9, 2009 at 8:01 am#155660StuParticipantQuote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 08 2009,17:55) Supposedly 65 million year old dinosaur bones found with muscle, connective tissue, blood cells still attached….
You have not dealt with this:“The proteins were recovered from a hadrosaur femur that had been encased in sandstone, which appears to prevent complete tissue degradation, Asara said. “
In other words, why is it impossible for protein molecules to survive that long?
Stuart
November 9, 2009 at 8:05 am#155661StuParticipantQuote (Is 1:18 @ Nov. 08 2009,18:07) List of other not so old stuff….
This one is a load of nonsense, emphasised by gems like this:“The evolutionist source LiveScience.com reports, “Land Speed Record: Mountain Moves 62 Miles in 30 Minutes.”
Is that biological 'evolutionists' who are the source of such things? What would they know about geology?
Unless they mean to say the geological time scale…
Stuart
November 9, 2009 at 8:18 am#155662StuParticipantRegarding soft tissue fossils, the Holy Wikipedia includes this in its article on fossils:
Preservation of soft tissues is rare in the fossil record.
That is rare, not impossible or unheard of.
More:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news….ue.html
http://www.physorg.com/news176660912.html
It would seem that it is only a tenet of creationism that soft tissue fossilisation is impossible.
Stuart
November 10, 2009 at 3:36 am#155792ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55) Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth. Could it be?
Stuart
So what?Doesn't disprove God.
Might disprove the 6000 year old earth theory, but that doesn't disprove what is in scripture.I am sure that there were many ages before this one.
November 10, 2009 at 6:28 am#155800StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 10 2009,14:36) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55) Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth. Could it be?
Stuart
So what?Doesn't disprove God.
Might disprove the 6000 year old earth theory, but that doesn't disprove what is in scripture.I am sure that there were many ages before this one.
Good to see the 6,000 year lie does not have you in its thrall t8!Stuart
November 10, 2009 at 8:48 am#155853ProclaimerParticipantI think there are extremists on both sides of this debate.
Extremists have a way of getting most coverage by the press.
So people hear their views more than they should.November 11, 2009 at 12:28 pm#156036StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 10 2009,19:48) I think there are extremists on both sides of this debate.
Extremists have a way of getting most coverage by the press.
So people hear their views more than they should.
What debate?Stuart
November 18, 2009 at 3:16 am#157481ProclaimerParticipantDon't worry about it.
November 18, 2009 at 5:22 am#157516StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,14:16) Don't worry about it.
If you are saying there is no debate, then I agree.Stuart
November 18, 2009 at 5:36 am#157520ProclaimerParticipantSure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.
November 18, 2009 at 6:03 am#157526StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36) Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.
When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.Stuart
December 10, 2009 at 7:01 am#163515davidParticipantI've been away studying coprolites. What have I missed?
December 10, 2009 at 7:16 am#163520StuParticipantQuote (david @ Dec. 10 2009,18:01) I've been away studying coprolites. What have I missed?
David!You've missed nothing. It's all coprolites here too.
Stuart
December 11, 2009 at 6:00 am#163741ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2009,17:03) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36) Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.
When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.Stuart
When you claim to believe that nothing is the cause of all things, it means that your brain originated from nothing according to your own belief.I close my case.
December 11, 2009 at 6:57 am#163755davidParticipantQuote (Stu @ Nov. 08 2009,06:55) Dinosaur tracks from 69.99 million years before the divine creation of the earth. Could it be?
Stuart
“In the beginning [of creation], God created the heavens and the earth.”The Bible doesn't state when this took place. This could have been 14 billion years ago. And I know the earth isn't 14 billion years old. But understand that chapter 1 of Genesis is about the earth. But to begin, we have to be told that the earth didn't always exist. Verse one isn't extremely specific, but I understand it to mean:
“In the beginning God created everything, all matter, including the earth [of which we are about to discuss]”Or, “God created the heavens (universe) including the earth.”
This doesn't have to mean that the universe and the earth were created at the same moment. The earth is a part of the universe, and the matter came about at that moment.
Then, Genesis gets more specific and starts looking at the days (Epochs) of creation.
Anyway, since these verses aren't really specific at all, it's hard to make an argument against them.
Stu, rather, you should study dinosaur poop for a while. It's fascinating. Some of the coprolites have bone in them. Do you know how easy it is to get dinosaur poop? Very.
December 11, 2009 at 10:35 am#163772StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Dec. 11 2009,17:00) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2009,17:03) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2009,16:36) Sure. When you put your head in the sand, there is no sun.
When you claim to hear the voices of things that don't exist, there is no light.Stuart
When you claim to believe that nothing is the cause of all things, it means that your brain originated from nothing according to your own belief.I close my case.
You would be right about that, logically.Why? Who is claiming that?
Stuart
December 11, 2009 at 10:42 am#163776StuParticipantDavid
Quote “In the beginning [of creation], God created the heavens and the earth.” The Bible doesn't state when this took place. This could have been 14 billion years ago. And I know the earth isn't 14 billion years old.
You have no way of determining that it was not 6,000 years ago. Once you assert magic happened, you have to be prepared to acknowledge that the magic could include your own deception.Quote But understand that chapter 1 of Genesis is about the earth. But to begin, we have to be told that the earth didn't always exist. Verse one isn't extremely specific, but I understand it to mean:
“In the beginning God created everything, all matter, including the earth [of which we are about to discuss]” Or, “God created the heavens (universe) including the earth.” This doesn't have to mean that the universe and the earth were created at the same moment. The earth is a part of the universe, and the matter came about at that moment.
That could be all part of the magic, or maybe not. Physics says that the matter is still being created…and destroyed. Does it mention that in Genesis too, or are you just trying to stretch natural history to make it fit Genesis again?Quote Then, Genesis gets more specific and starts looking at the days (Epochs) of creation. Anyway, since these verses aren't really specific at all, it's hard to make an argument against them.
Or indeed any argument for them!Quote Stu, rather, you should study dinosaur poop for a while. It's fascinating. Some of the coprolites have bone in them. Do you know how easy it is to get dinosaur poop? Very.
I believe you! I am sure it is available in both literal and metaphorical.Stuart
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