No Pre-Trib Rapture

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  • #357854
    Wakeup
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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,10:02)

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    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””  

    TELL ME ,


    Terra.

    How many do you think is not literal?

    My answer to your question is all is literal.

    wakeup.


    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    READ THOSE TWO VERSES ,TELL ME WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND ???


    Terra.

    This is what I mean.

    You are the one quoting the scriptures
    and then ask someone else for the answer.

    How about you and your wisdom telling us the answer?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you are in a state of rejection again ;you are using flattery again

    ,

    if you do not want to answer ,then do not but do not give that type of rhetoric,it stinks ,

    and by doing so I AM NOW TALKING TO MYSELF 'WELL ;YOU REALLY THINK I AM INSANE ??? NO ,

    SO I HAVE TO FINISH AND END THIS DISCUSSION  ;

    RIGHT ???


    Terra.

    Here again refusing to answer.
    Becuase you dont know what you are quoting.

    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a **bed of sickness**, and those who commit adultery with her *into great tribulation*, unless they repent of her deeds.

    She will be thrown in a bed of sickness.
    Ad those who commit adultery with her
    into great tribulation.

    THIS REVERING TO THE CHURH OF *THY-A-TI-RA*
    NOT THE LAST DAY TRIBULATION. DONT MIXUP PROPHESIES.

    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who **come out of the great tribulation**, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    THESE ARE THEM KILLED IN THE LAST
    GREAT TRIBULATION; AND THEM KILLED BEFORE THE BROTHERS WERE KILLED. THE WHOLE BUNCH.

    YOU HAVE TAUGHT YOURSELF ERROR AFTER ERROR.

    Wakeup.


    man   :(

    do you understand what you are saying ???

    nothing make sens in what you are saying ;nothing read it ;

    and do not think i will save you from your own lack of understanding and stubbornness to follow religion


    Terra.

    When did this happen?

    Isaiah 24:20 ***The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard***, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; **and it shall fall, and **not rise again**.

    wakeup.

    #357856
    terraricca
    Participant

    ARE YOU GOING TO QUOTE EVERY VERSE THAT SOME HOW TALKS ABOUT AN DISTRESS OR DISASTER ?

    IF YES ;WE BETTER SEPARATE NOW ;BECAUSE I WILL ,AND CAN NOT INVENT TO PLEASE YOU ;BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I DO NOT KNOW AND UNDERSTAND ALL THE SCRIPTURES ,I WOULD BE A LIAR IF I WOULD EVEN PRETEND IT ;BUT TO PREVENT COLLISION I WILL REFRAIN FROM TALKING TO YOU ON SOME THINGS ;

    YOU SEEMS TO ASK ME TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE UNDERSTANDING ???

    #357872
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,12:21)
    ARE YOU GOING TO QUOTE EVERY VERSE THAT SOME HOW TALKS ABOUT AN DISTRESS OR DISASTER ?

    IF YES ;WE BETTER SEPARATE NOW ;BECAUSE I WILL ,AND CAN NOT INVENT TO PLEASE YOU ;BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I DO NOT KNOW AND UNDERSTAND ALL THE SCRIPTURES ,I WOULD BE A LIAR IF I WOULD EVEN PRETEND IT ;BUT TO PREVENT COLLISION I WILL REFRAIN FROM TALKING TO YOU ON SOME THINGS ;

    YOU SEEMS TO ASK ME TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE UNDERSTANDING ???


    Ok Terra,you have your reasons.

    wakeup.

    #380750
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You say
    “The strong ones will be put in camps for the slow death.
    Some will be decapitated,some will just survive the hunger
    and of the regular piosoning of their food.”

    You have a fine imagination

    #380816
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2014,12:47)
    Hi WU,
    You say
    “The strong ones will be put in camps for the slow death.
    Some will be decapitated,some will just survive the hunger
    and of the regular piosoning of their food.”

    You have a fine imagination


    Nick.

    Because you are blinded from seeing it in the scriptures.
    The glasses you have on are of a very dark shade.

    wakeup.

    #380833
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So it is all written but some of us have missed it?
    No you are adding again.

    #380938
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,05:32)
    Hi WU,
    So it is all written but some of us have missed it?
    No you are adding again.


    Nick.

    You need to learn to read scriptures and add two and two together.

    Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:
    ***and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded***
    for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    Beheaded means; head chopped off.
    The old and children will be killed by food and water poisoning. The young will be made to work in the fields as slaves.

    Not a nice picture for all the so called born again.
    Best is to do the ostrich.

    wakeup.

    #380953
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So we are allowed to ADD conjecture to truth
    And it will still be truth??

    #380961
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,18:06)
    Hi WU,
    So we are allowed to ADD conjecture to truth
    And it will still be truth??


    Nick.

    I am not allowed;and will not add without backup.
    You are allowed to do as you please.
    And have been doing it since day one.
    Make up the truth as you go allong.
    Change bibles, change words,mix it to suit your own taste.
    And shout out loud; I am saved;I am saved,God is great.
    Halelujah I was blind and now I see.

    A blind man once says: Oh,,, I see.

    wakeup.

    #380964
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So these conjectures you have added you actually didn't add?
    Confusion

    #381013
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,18:31)
    Hi WU,
    So these conjectures you have added you actually didn't add?
    Confusion


    Nick.

    Those scriptures I have posted; must not be in your bible then.
    Get a real bible; just maybe you can find it there.

    wakeup.

    #381032
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So sad

    #381079
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,04:57)
    Hi WU,
    So sad


    Nick.

    Yes;very sad.

    wakeup.

    #381210
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You say
    “I am not allowed;and will not add without backup.”

    But then you state without backup

    “The old and children will be killed by food and water poisoning. The young will be made to work in the fields as slaves.”

    Do you really know yourself?

    #381223
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,13:28)
    Hi WU,
    You say
    “I am not allowed;and will not add without backup.”

    But then you state without backup

    “The old and children will be killed by food and water poisoning. The young will be made to work in the fields as slaves.”

    Do you really know yourself?


    Nick.

    You obviously have been asleep in your country.
    Or been doing the ostrich.

    wakeup.

    #381235
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Imagination is no help in understanding what is written is it?

    #381242
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,18:26)
    Hi WU,
    Imagination is no help in understanding what is written is it?


    Nick.

    Opinion.

    wakeup.

    #381245
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Your credibility takes another dive every day

    #381249
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,18:34)
    Hi WU,
    Your credibility takes another dive every day


    Nick.

    Opinion.

    wakeup.

    #381265
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Relax. God does not need you
    Take a breather

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