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  • #357520
    terraricca
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,05:32)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2013,09:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,03:10)
    Terra.

    The early christians had their tribulation,
    and the *end time* christians will have their tribulation.

    The early christians did not have it easy.
    They also had their tribulation.

    wakeup.


    This is true. We go through many trials and tribulations.

    However, I suspect that the Tribulation as opposed to tribulations will be the worst one on record.


    Exactly:

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a ***great tribulation, such as ***has not occurred*** since the beginning of the world until now, **nor ever will**.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and not to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???

    #357543
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,05:32)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2013,09:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,03:10)
    Terra.

    The early christians had their tribulation,
    and the *end time* christians will have their tribulation.

    The early christians did not have it easy.
    They also had their tribulation.

    wakeup.


    This is true. We go through many trials and tribulations.

    However, I suspect that the Tribulation as opposed to tribulations will be the worst one on record.


    Exactly:

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a ***great tribulation, such as ***has not occurred*** since the beginning of the world until now, **nor ever will**.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???


    Matthew 24:29 Immediately *after the tribulation* of those days shall the **sun be darkened**, **and the moon shall not give her light**, **and the stars shall fall from heaven**, **and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken**:

    wakeup.

    #357554
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,05:32)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2013,09:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,03:10)
    Terra.

    The early christians had their tribulation,
    and the *end time* christians will have their tribulation.

    The early christians did not have it easy.
    They also had their tribulation.

    wakeup.


    This is true. We go through many trials and tribulations.

    However, I suspect that the Tribulation as opposed to tribulations will be the worst one on record.


    Exactly:

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a ***great tribulation, such as ***has not occurred*** since the beginning of the world until now, **nor ever will**.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???


    Matthew 24:29   Immediately *after the tribulation* of those days shall the **sun be darkened**, **and the moon shall not give her light**, **and the stars shall fall from heaven**, **and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken**:

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    so what you say ,IS ,THOSE WORDS ARE HAVE TO TAKEN TOTALLY LITERALLY, ???

    ABSOLUTELY NOT IN AN ALLEGORICAL WAY RIGHT ???

    YOU UNDERSTAND YOU DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING ,JUST BY QUOTING THAT SCRIPTURE ,RIGHT ???

    #357561
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,15:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,05:32)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2013,09:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,03:10)
    Terra.

    The early christians had their tribulation,
    and the *end time* christians will have their tribulation.

    The early christians did not have it easy.
    They also had their tribulation.

    wakeup.


    This is true. We go through many trials and tribulations.

    However, I suspect that the Tribulation as opposed to tribulations will be the worst one on record.


    Exactly:

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a ***great tribulation, such as ***has not occurred*** since the beginning of the world until now, **nor ever will**.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???


    Matthew 24:29   Immediately *after the tribulation* of those days shall the **sun be darkened**, **and the moon shall not give her light**, **and the stars shall fall from heaven**, **and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken**:

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    so what you say ,IS ,THOSE WORDS ARE HAVE TO TAKEN TOTALLY LITERALLY, ???

    ABSOLUTELY NOT IN AN ALLEGORICAL WAY RIGHT ???

    YOU UNDERSTAND YOU DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING ,JUST BY QUOTING THAT SCRIPTURE ,RIGHT ???


    Terra.

    I take it literally.

    The tribulation is literal.
    The sun and the moons are the signs,thats literal.
    The second coming is literal.

    Why is it not literal?

    wakeup.

    #357569
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,12:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,15:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,05:32)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2013,09:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,03:10)
    Terra.

    The early christians had their tribulation,
    and the *end time* christians will have their tribulation.

    The early christians did not have it easy.
    They also had their tribulation.

    wakeup.


    This is true. We go through many trials and tribulations.

    However, I suspect that the Tribulation as opposed to tribulations will be the worst one on record.


    Exactly:

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a ***great tribulation, such as ***has not occurred*** since the beginning of the world until now, **nor ever will**.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???


    Matthew 24:29   Immediately *after the tribulation* of those days shall the **sun be darkened**, **and the moon shall not give her light**, **and the stars shall fall from heaven**, **and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken**:

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    so what you say ,IS ,THOSE WORDS ARE HAVE TO TAKEN TOTALLY LITERALLY, ???

    ABSOLUTELY NOT IN AN ALLEGORICAL WAY RIGHT ???

    YOU UNDERSTAND YOU DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING ,JUST BY QUOTING THAT SCRIPTURE ,RIGHT ???


    Terra.

    I take it literally.

    The tribulation is literal.
    The sun and the moons are the signs,thats literal.
    The second coming is literal.

    Why is it not literal?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    Lk 21:5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said,
    Lk 21:6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”
    Lk 21:7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”

    1)Lk 21:10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
    Lk 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

    Jerusalem;;

    Lk 21:12 “But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name.
    Lk 21:13 This will result in your being witnesses to them.
    Lk 21:14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves.
    Lk 21:15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.
    Lk 21:16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death.
    Lk 21:17 All men will hate you because of me.
    Lk 21:18 But not a hair of your head will perish.
    Lk 21:19 By standing firm you will gain life.

    now;;

    Lk 21:22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.
    Lk 21:23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people.

    Lk 21:24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

    Lk 21:27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
    Lk 21:28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

    Lk 21:32 “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
    Lk 21:33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

    just read the scriptures NOT YOUR OWN EDUCATED MIND ;

    AND TELL ME MY ANSWER ?

    #357574
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,22:40)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,12:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,15:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,05:32)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2013,09:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,03:10)
    Terra.

    The early christians had their tribulation,
    and the *end time* christians will have their tribulation.

    The early christians did not have it easy.
    They also had their tribulation.

    wakeup.


    This is true. We go through many trials and tribulations.

    However, I suspect that the Tribulation as opposed to tribulations will be the worst one on record.


    Exactly:

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a ***great tribulation, such as ***has not occurred*** since the beginning of the world until now, **nor ever will**.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???


    Matthew 24:29   Immediately *after the tribulation* of those days shall the **sun be darkened**, **and the moon shall not give her light**, **and the stars shall fall from heaven**, **and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken**:

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    so what you say ,IS ,THOSE WORDS ARE HAVE TO TAKEN TOTALLY LITERALLY, ???

    ABSOLUTELY NOT IN AN ALLEGORICAL WAY RIGHT ???

    YOU UNDERSTAND YOU DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING ,JUST BY QUOTING THAT SCRIPTURE ,RIGHT ???


    Terra.

    I take it literally.

    The tribulation is literal.
    The sun and the moons are the signs,thats literal.
    The second coming is literal.

    Why is it not literal?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    Lk 21:5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said,
    Lk 21:6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”
    Lk 21:7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”

    1)Lk 21:10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
    Lk 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

    Jerusalem;;

    Lk 21:12 “But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name.
    Lk 21:13 This will result in your being witnesses to them.
    Lk 21:14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves.
    Lk 21:15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.
    Lk 21:16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death.
    Lk 21:17 All men will hate you because of me.
    Lk 21:18 But not a hair of your head will perish.
    Lk 21:19 By standing firm you will gain life.

    now;;

    Lk 21:22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.
    Lk 21:23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people.

    Lk 21:24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

    Lk 21:27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
    Lk 21:28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

    Lk 21:32 “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
    Lk 21:33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

    just read the scriptures NOT YOUR OWN EDUCATED MIND ;

    AND TELL ME MY ANSWER ?


    Terra.

    Do you really believe that the coming is in 70 ad
    when the temple was destroyed? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the gospel has been preached in all the earth in 70ad? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that Christ has come in the clouds with all his saints in 70 ad? And therefore the book of revelation
    is of no use? It was written in about 70 ad.Y/N.

    Do you really believe that *armageddon* has happened in 70 ad.Man making war with the lamb? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the earth has been shaken to and fro,like a drunkerd,in 70 ad? Y/N.

    Do youreally believe that there were hailstones coming down
    each the weight of a talent(45kg) in 70 ad? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the *cities of the nations* are no more in 70 ad? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the saints have been resurrected
    in 70 ad? Was that the first resurrection? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the next resurrection would be the second resurrection? Christ coming again? Y/N.
    This means that the earth will be melted.

    Do you really believe that Christ is ruling in Jerusalem today?
    Y/N.

    Do you really believe that we *are at rest*,and live in peace today? Y/N.

    wakeup.

    #357641
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 14 2013,00:30)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,22:40)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,12:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,15:53)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,09:52)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 13 2013,12:08)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,05:32)

    Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2013,09:15)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 13 2013,03:10)
    Terra.

    The early christians had their tribulation,
    and the *end time* christians will have their tribulation.

    The early christians did not have it easy.
    They also had their tribulation.

    wakeup.


    This is true. We go through many trials and tribulations.

    However, I suspect that the Tribulation as opposed to tribulations will be the worst one on record.


    Exactly:

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a ***great tribulation, such as ***has not occurred*** since the beginning of the world until now, **nor ever will**.

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???


    Matthew 24:29   Immediately *after the tribulation* of those days shall the **sun be darkened**, **and the moon shall not give her light**, **and the stars shall fall from heaven**, **and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken**:

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    so what you say ,IS ,THOSE WORDS ARE HAVE TO TAKEN TOTALLY LITERALLY, ???

    ABSOLUTELY NOT IN AN ALLEGORICAL WAY RIGHT ???

    YOU UNDERSTAND YOU DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING ,JUST BY QUOTING THAT SCRIPTURE ,RIGHT ???


    Terra.

    I take it literally.

    The tribulation is literal.
    The sun and the moons are the signs,thats literal.
    The second coming is literal.

    Why is it not literal?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    Lk 21:5 Some of his disciples were remarking about how the temple was adorned with beautiful stones and with gifts dedicated to God. But Jesus said,
    Lk 21:6 “As for what you see here, the time will come when not one stone will be left on another; every one of them will be thrown down.”
    Lk 21:7 “Teacher,” they asked, “when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?”

    1)Lk 21:10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
    Lk 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.

    Jerusalem;;

    Lk 21:12 “But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name.
    Lk 21:13 This will result in your being witnesses to them.
    Lk 21:14 But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves.
    Lk 21:15 For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict.
    Lk 21:16 You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death.
    Lk 21:17 All men will hate you because of me.
    Lk 21:18 But not a hair of your head will perish.
    Lk 21:19 By standing firm you will gain life.

    now;;

    Lk 21:22 For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written.
    Lk 21:23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people.

    Lk 21:24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

    Lk 21:27 At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
    Lk 21:28 When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

    Lk 21:32 “I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
    Lk 21:33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

    just read the scriptures NOT YOUR OWN EDUCATED MIND ;

    AND TELL ME MY ANSWER ?


    Terra.

    Do you really believe that the coming is in 70 ad
    when the temple was destroyed? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the gospel has been preached in all the earth in 70ad? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that Christ has come in the clouds with all his saints in 70 ad? And therefore the book of revelation
    is of no use? It was written in about 70 ad.Y/N.

    Do you really believe that *armageddon* has happened in 70 ad.Man making war with the lamb? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the earth has been shaken to and fro,like a drunkerd,in 70 ad? Y/N.

    Do youreally believe that there were hailstones coming down
    each the weight of a talent(45kg) in 70 ad? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the *cities of the nations* are no more in 70 ad? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the saints have been resurrected
    in 70 ad? Was that the first resurrection? Y/N.

    Do you really believe that the next resurrection would be the second resurrection? Christ coming again? Y/N.
    This means that the earth will be melted.

    Do you really believe that Christ is ruling in Jerusalem today?
    Y/N.

    Do you really believe that we *are at rest*,and live in peace today? Y/N.

    wakeup.


    Terra??

    wakeup.

    #357661
    terraricca
    Participant

    WAKEUP

    Quote
    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and not to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???

    you have never ANSWERED THIS ,WHY ???

    YOU ARE NOT TRUTHFUL ,BY NOT ANSWERING ;YOU KEEP ASKING ,AND DEVIATE FROM MY QUESTION ;

    so I figure that you will never answered it ; and this conversation is for that reason close;

    #357673
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2013,03:53)
    WAKEUP

    Quote
    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???

    you have never ANSWERED THIS ,WHY ???

    YOU ARE NOT TRUTHFUL ,BY NOT ANSWERING ;YOU KEEP ASKING ,AND DEVIATE FROM MY QUESTION ;

    so I figure that you will never answered it ; and this conversation is for that reason close;


    Easy cop out Terra.
    Dont want to put yourself in jeopardy.

    wakeup.

    #357687
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,03:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 15 2013,03:53)
    WAKEUP

    Quote
    ok .prove to me that Mth;24;21 is related to the end of the world and  not  to Jerusalem and the nation of Israel ???

    you have never ANSWERED THIS ,WHY ???

    YOU ARE NOT TRUTHFUL ,BY NOT ANSWERING ;YOU KEEP ASKING ,AND DEVIATE FROM MY QUESTION ;

    so I figure that you will never answered it ; and this conversation is for that reason close;


    Easy cop out Terra.
    Dont want to put yourself in jeopardy.

    wakeup.


    sorry man ,what i start i finish;

    i am not going the wait ; read my lips CLOSED :D

    #357699
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.

    #357713
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “”” YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES

    #357735
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

    Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.

    #357752
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””

    TELL ME ,

    #357784
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,14:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””  

    TELL ME ,


    Terra.

    How many do you think is not literal?

    My answer to your question is all is literal.

    wakeup.

    #357789
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,14:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””  

    TELL ME ,


    Terra.

    How many do you think is not literal?

    My answer to your question is all is literal.

    wakeup.


    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    READ THOSE TWO VERSES ,TELL ME WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND ???

    #357796
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,18:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,14:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””  

    TELL ME ,


    Terra.

    How many do you think is not literal?

    My answer to your question is all is literal.

    wakeup.


    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    READ THOSE TWO VERSES ,TELL ME WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND ???


    Terra.

    This is what I mean.

    You are the one quoting the scriptures
    and then ask someone else for the answer.

    How about you and your wisdom telling us the answer?

    wakeup.

    #357807
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,14:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,18:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,14:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””  

    TELL ME ,


    Terra.

    How many do you think is not literal?

    My answer to your question is all is literal.

    wakeup.


    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    READ THOSE TWO VERSES ,TELL ME WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND ???


    Terra.

    This is what I mean.

    You are the one quoting the scriptures
    and then ask someone else for the answer.

    How about you and your wisdom telling us the answer?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you are in a state of rejection again ;you are using flattery again

    ,

    if you do not want to answer ,then do not but do not give that type of rhetoric,it stinks ,

    and by doing so I AM NOW TALKING TO MYSELF 'WELL ;YOU REALLY THINK I AM INSANE ??? NO ,

    SO I HAVE TO FINISH AND END THIS DISCUSSION ;

    RIGHT ???

    #357835
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,14:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,18:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,14:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””  

    TELL ME ,


    Terra.

    How many do you think is not literal?

    My answer to your question is all is literal.

    wakeup.


    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    READ THOSE TWO VERSES ,TELL ME WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND ???


    Terra.

    This is what I mean.

    You are the one quoting the scriptures
    and then ask someone else for the answer.

    How about you and your wisdom telling us the answer?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you are in a state of rejection again ;you are using flattery again

    ,

    if you do not want to answer ,then do not but do not give that type of rhetoric,it stinks ,

    and by doing so I AM NOW TALKING TO MYSELF 'WELL ;YOU REALLY THINK I AM INSANE ??? NO ,

    SO I HAVE TO FINISH AND END THIS DISCUSSION  ;

    RIGHT ???


    Terra.

    Here again refusing to answer.
    Becuase you dont know what you are quoting.

    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a **bed of sickness**, and those who commit adultery with her *into great tribulation*, unless they repent of her deeds.

    She will be thrown in a bed of sickness.
    Ad those who commit adultery with her
    into great tribulation.

    THIS REVERING TO THE CHURH OF *THY-A-TI-RA*
    NOT THE LAST DAY TRIBULATION. DONT MIXUP PROPHESIES.

    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who **come out of the great tribulation**, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    THESE ARE THEM KILLED IN THE LAST
    GREAT TRIBULATION; AND THEM KILLED BEFORE THE BROTHERS WERE KILLED. THE WHOLE BUNCH.

    YOU HAVE TAUGHT YOURSELF ERROR AFTER ERROR.

    Wakeup.

    #357836
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 17 2013,04:57)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 17 2013,01:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,14:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,18:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,13:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,14:02)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 16 2013,05:49)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 16 2013,03:04)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 15 2013,10:37)

    Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 12 2013,21:17)
    wakeup

    these are the only scriptures i could find on the “””great tribulation “””

    MT 24:21 “For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will.
    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    tell me what you understand ????


    Terra.

    The previous generations went through great tribulations
    also,and they were given *white robes*;
    They were the ones under the altar,pleading to God when
    will you take revenge.God said to wait untill their fellow brethren *also will be killed*.

    The last generation christians that managed to refuse the mark will also go through great tribulations.
    They are their brethren given white robes also.

    You think that only they have to through great tribulations
    but we can just sit and wait in comfy for the rapture.
    Well you will be disappointed.

    wakeup.


    THAT IS NOT AN  ANSWER ;ALL THE PREVIOUS NATION ,AD TO EAT AND DRINK AND SLEEP AS WELL ;

    AND MANY OTHER COMMON THINGS THAT MAY RESULT FROM THEIR OWN WAYS ( VIOLENCE,WARS,AND NATURE)

    AS FAR AS I BELIEVE ;I HAVE TOLD YOU ;SO LOOK IT UP ;

    BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO SHOW :WHAT IS THAT “TRIBULATION “””  YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT CLEAR ;FOSSY YES


    Terra.

    These are they that came out of great tribulation.

    Revelation 20:4   And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ***and I saw the souls of them that were
    ***beheaded*** for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God***, ***
    and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image***,
    ***neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands***;
    and they lived and reigned with Christ a *thousand years*.

     Revelation 20:5   But the rest of the dead ***lived not again*** until the thousand years were finished.
    ***This is the first resurrection***.

    The beheading of the saints.

    wakeup.


    SO WHICH ONE OF THE DESCRIPTIONS IN THOSE VERSES ARE “LITERAL ???

    HOW MANY ARE “FIGURATIVE “””  

    TELL ME ,


    Terra.

    How many do you think is not literal?

    My answer to your question is all is literal.

    wakeup.


    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her deeds.
    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    READ THOSE TWO VERSES ,TELL ME WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND ???


    Terra.

    This is what I mean.

    You are the one quoting the scriptures
    and then ask someone else for the answer.

    How about you and your wisdom telling us the answer?

    wakeup.


    wakeup

    you are in a state of rejection again ;you are using flattery again

    ,

    if you do not want to answer ,then do not but do not give that type of rhetoric,it stinks ,

    and by doing so I AM NOW TALKING TO MYSELF 'WELL ;YOU REALLY THINK I AM INSANE ??? NO ,

    SO I HAVE TO FINISH AND END THIS DISCUSSION  ;

    RIGHT ???


    Terra.

    Here again refusing to answer.
    Becuase you dont know what you are quoting.

    REV 2:22 ‘Behold, I will throw her on a **bed of sickness**, and those who commit adultery with her *into great tribulation*, unless they repent of her deeds.

    She will be thrown in a bed of sickness.
    Ad those who commit adultery with her
    into great tribulation.

    THIS REVERING TO THE CHURH OF *THY-A-TI-RA*
    NOT THE LAST DAY TRIBULATION. DONT MIXUP PROPHESIES.

    REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who **come out of the great tribulation**, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    THESE ARE THEM KILLED IN THE LAST
    GREAT TRIBULATION; AND THEM KILLED BEFORE THE BROTHERS WERE KILLED. THE WHOLE BUNCH.

    YOU HAVE TAUGHT YOURSELF ERROR AFTER ERROR.

    Wakeup.


    man :(

    do you understand what you are saying ???

    nothing make sens in what you are saying ;nothing read it ;

    and do not think i will save you from your own lack of understanding and stubbornness to follow religion

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