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Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,07:36) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,07:24) The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Colter
It was a parable
He also said it this way:Mark 14:58
We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.Did he refer to destroying his own body?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,07:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,07:36) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,07:24) The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Colter
It was a parable
He also said it this way:Mark 14:58
We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.Did he refer to destroying his own body?
Yes, that's a no brainier. Jesus created a likeness of his former mortal temple and appeared to believers.Caino
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2013,10:00) 1) There is no point, even God couldn't reveal anything new to you that’s “not in the scripture”. The fact that Jesus was rejected, because he was very different from the scripture, is somehow lost in the Biblical idolatry of today.
I'm confidant that I would know the difference between something God revealed to me, and the writings of some man who lived in the 1950's.
BTW, go re-read the gospels. They are full of OT scriptures that were fulfilled by Jesus. Jesus wasn't “different from” the scriptures. Instead, the scriptures testified about him many times.
Colter, you should have kept silent about the UB teaching a trinity Godhead. By bringing that nonsense up, you lost even those who were, for a time, listening to you from a distance. In other words, your book from the 50's has lost any credibility it might have otherwise had.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 27 2013,12:58) You should easily concede this point and this is why I said READ the QURAN it will clear up many misconceptions. If your Quran says something different than what the scriptures say, I won't believe it. And that is the case in the excerpt you just posted.I will stick to the scriptures and believe that Jehovah rendered judgment against the gods of Egypt at the same time He rendered judgment against the beasts and humans of Egypt.
I will continue to know that men cannot turn staffs into living snakes, and that the power to do this came from a supernatural force.
I will continue to believe that the priests of Pharaoh did the SAME THINGS, and will not alter the text to say “they did illusions that made it SEEM like they were doing the same things”.
Nor will I accept the writings of a man that says these words: 68 We (Allah) said: “Fear not! Surely, you will have the upper hand. Who is the “WE”, Asana? Is Jehovah a “we”?
What you just did by posting an ALTERNATE account of the event Moses himself recorded, is equivalent to Colter posting his alternate accounts of which scriptures we should believe, and which ones we shouldn't.
So I'm having a debate against two people who can cast aside the real scriptures whenever it suits them, and replace them with other things that were written by men many years later. How nice for me.
Where is the part about the frogs in the Quran? Where is the part about the water into blood?
Now, are you ready to discuss Job 1 and 2? Or would you first like to post the Quran version of the frog and blood part of the plagues?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2013,11:20) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2013,10:00) 1) There is no point, even God couldn't reveal anything new to you that’s “not in the scripture”. The fact that Jesus was rejected, because he was very different from the scripture, is somehow lost in the Biblical idolatry of today.
I'm confidant that I would know the difference between something God revealed to me, and the writings of some man who lived in the 1950's. BTW, go re-read the gospels. They are full of OT scriptures that were fulfilled by Jesus. Jesus wasn't “different from” the scriptures. Instead, the scriptures testified about him many times.
Colter, you should have kept silent about the UB teaching a trinity Godhead. By bringing that nonsense up, you lost even those who were, for a time, listening to you from a distance. In other words, your book from the 50's has lost any credibility it might have otherwise had.
Can anything good come out of Nazereth? Same attitude Mike as the Jews.This isn't a popularity contest, I have nothing to hide, besides, it would be dishonest to hide things because of the disbelief of others.
I still feel sence that you don't get the idea of the personification of the infinite.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,09:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,07:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,07:36) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,07:24) The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Colter
It was a parable
He also said it this way:Mark 14:58
We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.Did he refer to destroying his own body?
Yes, that's a no brainier. Jesus created a likeness of his former mortal temple and appeared to believers.Caino
Jesus destroyed his own body? ….lolQuote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 28 2013,11:34) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 27 2013,12:58) You should easily concede this point and this is why I said READ the QURAN it will clear up many misconceptions. If your Quran says something different than what the scriptures say, I won't believe it. And that is the case in the excerpt you just posted.I will stick to the scriptures and believe that Jehovah rendered judgment against the gods of Egypt at the same time He rendered judgment against the beasts and humans of Egypt.
I will continue to know that men cannot turn staffs into living snakes, and that the power to do this came from a supernatural force.
I will continue to believe that the priests of Pharaoh did the SAME THINGS, and will not alter the text to say “they did illusions that made it SEEM like they were doing the same things”.
Nor will I accept the writings of a man that says these words: 68 We (Allah) said: “Fear not! Surely, you will have the upper hand. Who is the “WE”, Asana? Is Jehovah a “we”?
What you just did by posting an ALTERNATE account of the event Moses himself recorded, is equivalent to Colter posting his alternate accounts of which scriptures we should believe, and which ones we shouldn't.
So I'm having a debate against two people who can cast aside the real scriptures whenever it suits them, and replace them with other things that were written by men many years later. How nice for me.
Where is the part about the frogs in the Quran? Where is the part about the water into blood?
Now, are you ready to discuss Job 1 and 2? Or would you first like to post the Quran version of the frog and blood part of the plagues?
Why would I discuss Job 1 and 2? Plus let me explain something to you:So We sent on them: the flood, the locusts, the lice, the frogs, and the blood (as a succession of) manifest signs, yet they remained arrogant, and they were of those people who were Mujrimun (criminals, polytheists, sinners).
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #133)
Exodus 8:18
And the magicians did so with their enchantments to bring forth lice, but they could not: so there were lice upon man, and upon beastPlease concede:
Sripture does not say the Magicians did anything with th locusts either
Please Concede:
scripture does not say they made the blood
Please Concede:
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,16:05) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,09:57) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,07:39) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 28 2013,07:36) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,07:24) The Jews then responded to him, “What sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?” Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days.”
They replied, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and you are going to raise it in three days?” But the temple he had spoken of was his body. After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken.
Colter
It was a parable
He also said it this way:Mark 14:58
We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.Did he refer to destroying his own body?
Yes, that's a no brainier. Jesus created a likeness of his former mortal temple and appeared to believers.Caino
Jesus destroyed his own body? ….lolWe realize that Islam permits lying (Taqiyya ) if it promotes the cause, but in your counterpoint you blatantly used the false witness of the trial yourself in denouncing the truth about Jesus. So that makes you a liar and a fool! I’m not sure what the Koran says about the latter.
56 Many testified falsely against him, but their statements did not agree.
57 Then some stood up and gave this false testimony against him: 58 “We heard him say, ‘I will destroy this temple made with human hands and in three days will build another, not made with hands.’” 59 Yet even then their testimony did not agree.
Colter
Colter.
Since you have studied the urantia.
Without using the bible.
Can you tell us the big picture its projecting?No you can not;because there is no big picture in it.
Tell us Gods *whole* plan for earth.Interesting to know.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2013,21:57) Colter. Since you have studied the urantia.
Without using the bible.
Can you tell us the big picture its projecting?No you can not;because there is no big picture in it.
Tell us Gods *whole* plan for earth.Interesting to know.
wakeup.
In general, Gods plan for the worlds of time and space are that they become settled in “light and life”, in the perfection of our Paradise example. Gods plan is to duplicate in Time and Space what is now present on Eternal Paradise.We were cut off from the planitary circuits after the betrayal and rebellion of our administrator Lucifer. Our world is in the process of rehabilitation, salvation. We will eventually be restored as things progress.
The UB has a tremendous amount of historical data about our world, from the beginning of our local universe, our solar system, earth, life establishment, the arrival of the first Son, his default with Lucifer and designation as “crafty beast”, the arrival of the second Son “Adam”, his default, the arrival of the 3rd Son “Melchizedek” and his agreement with Abram, the arrival of The Creator Son “Christ Michael” , his original gospel and the establishment of “the kingdom of heaven” and what we might expect in the exciting future.
But the specific answer to your question can be found bellow:
Colter
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 23 2013,18:06) My question is simple. do you believe in gods or “God” you speak about the trinity as wrong based upon Go being more than one and yet you beliee what the trinity teaches because you believe in gods even if you manipulate the way you think about it. I'm not asking what the Bible teaches I am asking what you believe. Do you believe in “gods” yes or no?
You say you fear God more than men so I will ask you plainly.
Are there Gods beside theone who declares there is no God besides HIM?
Bod, a simple Greek lesson on how words and articles work would easily answer your questions.You are trying to fit an English concept into a Greek one.
In Greek you can be called THE which is used to identify and THE God is exclusively the Father. Without the definite article and you qualify. Thus many can be qualified in such a way.
But English speakers get confused about that and then make all kinds of accusations.
But a few Greek lessons would answer it for you.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2013,01:13) Magic is BS, it's not real. A magician has no special powers, just tricks and gimmicks. I thought grown men knew that? ?
Magic is all ropes and pulleys and is logical.But beings who are not of this world have better ropes and pulleys. God's ropes (so to speak) are beyond our thinking.
Instead of saying magic, we can say ways of doing things that look impossible.
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 29 2013,02:44) Bod, a simple Greek lesson on how words and articles work would easily answer your questions. You are trying to fit an English concept into a Greek one.
In Greek you can be called THE which is used to identify and THE God is exclusively the Father. Without the definite article and you qualify. Thus many can be qualified in such a way.
But English speakers get confused about that and then make all kinds of accusations.
But a few Greek lessons would answer it for you.
Further, I would like to add the following by way of an example.There is one called the Devil. He is Satan.
Yet there are many devils and even Judas a human being was called a devil by Jesus when he said, one of you is a devil.See how Judas was qualified as having the nature or character of the Devil? Was Jesus calling Judas Satan or the Devil?
So there is one who is the Devil and there are devils.
There is one who is God and that is the Father. There are many called gods/theos. The latter includes angels, God's counsel, judges etc.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,22:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2013,21:57) Colter. Since you have studied the urantia.
Without using the bible.
Can you tell us the big picture its projecting?No you can not;because there is no big picture in it.
Tell us Gods *whole* plan for earth.Interesting to know.
wakeup.
In general, Gods plan for the worlds of time and space are that they become settled in “light and life”, in the perfection of our Paradise example. Gods plan is to duplicate in Time and Space what is now present on Eternal Paradise.We were cut off from the planitary circuits after the betrayal and rebellion of our administrator Lucifer. Our world is in the process of rehabilitation, salvation. We will eventually be restored as things progress.
The UB has a tremendous amount of historical data about our world, from the beginning of our local universe, our solar system, earth, life establishment, the arrival of the first Son, his default with Lucifer and designation as “crafty beast”, the arrival of the second Son “Adam”, his default, the arrival of the 3rd Son “Melchizedek” and his agreement with Abram, the arrival of The Creator Son “Christ Michael” , his original gospel and the establishment of “the kingdom of heaven” and what we might expect in the exciting future.
But the specific answer to your question can be found bellow:
Colter
Colter.How can you be sure; that is not a doctrine inspired by devils? Because we christians have been **warned**;that in the last days many will come with doctrines inspired by devils;and you have ignored the warnings.
The urantia is preaching another gospel and another Jesus. We dont want another gospel and another Jesus.
Colter: As we said before,so say I now again,If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,LET HIM BE ACCURSED.
We have been warned 2000years ago,that this will come; and it has come. Boditharta should take note too.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,00:24) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,22:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2013,21:57) Colter. Since you have studied the urantia.
Without using the bible.
Can you tell us the big picture its projecting?No you can not;because there is no big picture in it.
Tell us Gods *whole* plan for earth.Interesting to know.
wakeup.
In general, Gods plan for the worlds of time and space are that they become settled in “light and life”, in the perfection of our Paradise example. Gods plan is to duplicate in Time and Space what is now present on Eternal Paradise.We were cut off from the planitary circuits after the betrayal and rebellion of our administrator Lucifer. Our world is in the process of rehabilitation, salvation. We will eventually be restored as things progress.
The UB has a tremendous amount of historical data about our world, from the beginning of our local universe, our solar system, earth, life establishment, the arrival of the first Son, his default with Lucifer and designation as “crafty beast”, the arrival of the second Son “Adam”, his default, the arrival of the 3rd Son “Melchizedek” and his agreement with Abram, the arrival of The Creator Son “Christ Michael” , his original gospel and the establishment of “the kingdom of heaven” and what we might expect in the exciting future.
But the specific answer to your question can be found bellow:
Colter
Colter.How can you be sure; that is not a doctrine inspired by devils? Because we christians have been **warned**;that in the last days many will come with doctrines inspired by devils;and you have ignored the warnings.
The urantia is preaching another gospel and another Jesus. We dont want another gospel and another Jesus.
Colter: As we said before,so say I now again,If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,LET HIM BE ACCURSED.
We have been warned 2000years ago,that this will come; and it has come. Boditharta should take note too.
wakeup.
The default setting is always the same, any new truth, expanded truth, is always met with fear, threats of demonic influence, devils and such. Frightened people such as these go so far as to murder.How do I know these aren’t the doctrines of Demons (if any still existed) for the same reason that Jesus gave when intolerant religious bigots made the same accusation about his gospel: “And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?”
The Urantia revelation absolutely pummels Lucifer and Satan and the entire atheist that promote their lingering doctrines of doubt in the rule of the Universal Father. This revelation leaves no doubt as to who they were, how wrong they were and how disgraced they will forever be!!!!
The religious people that had Jesus put to death threw everything they could at him! He's from the Devil, he's a trickster, he doesn’t keep the laws of the elders, he consorts with sinners and whores, he floats the sacred law etc! Spies were sent, lawyers were sent to attempt to entrap him and turn the people against him. They did everything in their power to discredit Jesus, finally, with a hardness of heart, they tried to stop him by putting him through a trumped up trial with false witnesses and turned over to the Romans for death. Even Pilate saw the farce in it all but tragically surrendered.
Little did they know, their problems with Jesus had just begun.
So your fright of “doctrines of demons” default is just silly!
Wakeup, you problem is one of misinterpretation, Judas suffered from that. You perceive the enemy as your friend and a friend as your enemy. You simply have no idea what Christ has sent to earth in the latest dispensation of grace and truth.
John 16:1-4
“These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble. They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.”
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 29 2013,01:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,00:24) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,22:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2013,21:57) Colter. Since you have studied the urantia.
Without using the bible.
Can you tell us the big picture its projecting?No you can not;because there is no big picture in it.
Tell us Gods *whole* plan for earth.Interesting to know.
wakeup.
In general, Gods plan for the worlds of time and space are that they become settled in “light and life”, in the perfection of our Paradise example. Gods plan is to duplicate in Time and Space what is now present on Eternal Paradise.We were cut off from the planitary circuits after the betrayal and rebellion of our administrator Lucifer. Our world is in the process of rehabilitation, salvation. We will eventually be restored as things progress.
The UB has a tremendous amount of historical data about our world, from the beginning of our local universe, our solar system, earth, life establishment, the arrival of the first Son, his default with Lucifer and designation as “crafty beast”, the arrival of the second Son “Adam”, his default, the arrival of the 3rd Son “Melchizedek” and his agreement with Abram, the arrival of The Creator Son “Christ Michael” , his original gospel and the establishment of “the kingdom of heaven” and what we might expect in the exciting future.
But the specific answer to your question can be found bellow:
Colter
Colter.How can you be sure; that is not a doctrine inspired by devils? Because we christians have been **warned**;that in the last days many will come with doctrines inspired by devils;and you have ignored the warnings.
The urantia is preaching another gospel and another Jesus. We dont want another gospel and another Jesus.
Colter: As we said before,so say I now again,If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,LET HIM BE ACCURSED.
We have been warned 2000years ago,that this will come; and it has come. Boditharta should take note too.
wakeup.
The default setting is always the same, any new truth, expanded truth, is always met with fear, threats of demonic influence, devils and such. Frightened people such as these go so far as to murder.How do I know these aren’t the doctrines of Demons (if any still existed) for the same reason that Jesus gave when intolerant religious bigots made the same accusation about his gospel: “And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?”
The Urantia revelation absolutely pummels Lucifer and Satan and the entire atheist that promote their lingering doctrines of doubt in the rule of the Universal Father. This revelation leaves no doubt as to who they were, how wrong they were and how disgraced they will forever be!!!!
The religious people that had Jesus put to death threw everything they could at him! He's from the Devil, he's a trickster, he doesn’t keep the laws of the elders, he consorts with sinners and whores, he floats the sacred law etc! Spies were sent, lawyers were sent to attempt to entrap him and turn the people against him. They did everything in their power to discredit Jesus, finally, with a hardness of heart, they tried to stop him by putting him through a trumped up trial with false witnesses and turned over to the Romans for death. Even Pilate saw the farce in it all but tragically surrendered.
Little did they know, their problems with Jesus had just begun.
So your fright of “doctrines of demons” default is just silly!
Wakeup, you problem is one of misinterpretation, Judas suffered from that. You perceive the enemy as your friend and a friend as your enemy. You simply have no idea what Christ has sent to earth in the latest dispensation of grace and truth.
John 16:1-4
“These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble. They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.”
Colter
Colter.Dont tell us christians that the urantia doctrine is not another gospel.
And that this michael /Jesus, is not another Jesus.The urantia book is not the gospel written by the inspired
and anointed apostles.
**This gospel** shall be preached in all the earth,and then shall the end come.Colter: **This gospel**. The urantia was not then.
not for another 1900years. The qur'an is not then,not for another 600years.In latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits,and doctrine of devils.
You are one of them giving heed to seducing spirits.You need to rebuke them spirits in Jesus name.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,02:33) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 29 2013,01:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,00:24) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,22:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2013,21:57) Colter. Since you have studied the urantia.
Without using the bible.
Can you tell us the big picture its projecting?No you can not;because there is no big picture in it.
Tell us Gods *whole* plan for earth.Interesting to know.
wakeup.
In general, Gods plan for the worlds of time and space are that they become settled in “light and life”, in the perfection of our Paradise example. Gods plan is to duplicate in Time and Space what is now present on Eternal Paradise.We were cut off from the planitary circuits after the betrayal and rebellion of our administrator Lucifer. Our world is in the process of rehabilitation, salvation. We will eventually be restored as things progress.
The UB has a tremendous amount of historical data about our world, from the beginning of our local universe, our solar system, earth, life establishment, the arrival of the first Son, his default with Lucifer and designation as “crafty beast”, the arrival of the second Son “Adam”, his default, the arrival of the 3rd Son “Melchizedek” and his agreement with Abram, the arrival of The Creator Son “Christ Michael” , his original gospel and the establishment of “the kingdom of heaven” and what we might expect in the exciting future.
But the specific answer to your question can be found bellow:
Colter
Colter.How can you be sure; that is not a doctrine inspired by devils? Because we christians have been **warned**;that in the last days many will come with doctrines inspired by devils;and you have ignored the warnings.
The urantia is preaching another gospel and another Jesus. We dont want another gospel and another Jesus.
Colter: As we said before,so say I now again,If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,LET HIM BE ACCURSED.
We have been warned 2000years ago,that this will come; and it has come. Boditharta should take note too.
wakeup.
The default setting is always the same, any new truth, expanded truth, is always met with fear, threats of demonic influence, devils and such. Frightened people such as these go so far as to murder.How do I know these aren’t the doctrines of Demons (if any still existed) for the same reason that Jesus gave when intolerant religious bigots made the same accusation about his gospel: “And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?”
The Urantia revelation absolutely pummels Lucifer and Satan and the entire atheist that promote their lingering doctrines of doubt in the rule of the Universal Father. This revelation leaves no doubt as to who they were, how wrong they were and how disgraced they will forever be!!!!
The religious people that had Jesus put to death threw everything they could at him! He's from the Devil, he's a trickster, he doesn’t keep the laws of the elders, he consorts with sinners and whores, he floats the sacred law etc! Spies were sent, lawyers were sent to attempt to entrap him and turn the people against him. They did everything in their power to discredit Jesus, finally, with a hardness of heart, they tried to stop him by putting him through a trumped up trial with false witnesses and turned over to the Romans for death. Even Pilate saw the farce in it all but tragically surrendered.
Little did they know, their problems with Jesus had just begun.
So your fright of “doctrines of demons” default is just silly!
Wakeup, you problem is one of misinterpretation, Judas suffered from that. You perceive the enemy as your friend and a friend as your enemy. You simply have no idea what Christ has sent to earth in the latest dispensation of grace and truth.
John 16:1-4
“These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble. They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.”
Colter
Colter.Dont tell us christians that the urantia doctrine is not another gospel.
And that this michael /Jesus, is not another Jesus.The urantia book is not the gospel written by the inspired
and anointed apostles.
**This gospel** shall be preached in all the earth,and then shall the end come.Colter: **This gospel**. The urantia was not then.
not for another 1900years. The qur'an is not then,not for another 600years.In latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits,and doctrine of devils.
You are one of them giving heed to seducing spirits.You need to rebuke them spirits in Jesus name.
wakeup.
**This Gospel**? Hasn't it been already preached in all the earth? Perhaps **This Gospel** is not the Gospel you assume it to be otherwise where is the end?Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 29 2013,04:30) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,02:33) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 29 2013,01:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 29 2013,00:24) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 28 2013,22:43) Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 28 2013,21:57) Colter. Since you have studied the urantia.
Without using the bible.
Can you tell us the big picture its projecting?No you can not;because there is no big picture in it.
Tell us Gods *whole* plan for earth.Interesting to know.
wakeup.
In general, Gods plan for the worlds of time and space are that they become settled in “light and life”, in the perfection of our Paradise example. Gods plan is to duplicate in Time and Space what is now present on Eternal Paradise.We were cut off from the planitary circuits after the betrayal and rebellion of our administrator Lucifer. Our world is in the process of rehabilitation, salvation. We will eventually be restored as things progress.
The UB has a tremendous amount of historical data about our world, from the beginning of our local universe, our solar system, earth, life establishment, the arrival of the first Son, his default with Lucifer and designation as “crafty beast”, the arrival of the second Son “Adam”, his default, the arrival of the 3rd Son “Melchizedek” and his agreement with Abram, the arrival of The Creator Son “Christ Michael” , his original gospel and the establishment of “the kingdom of heaven” and what we might expect in the exciting future.
But the specific answer to your question can be found bellow:
Colter
Colter.How can you be sure; that is not a doctrine inspired by devils? Because we christians have been **warned**;that in the last days many will come with doctrines inspired by devils;and you have ignored the warnings.
The urantia is preaching another gospel and another Jesus. We dont want another gospel and another Jesus.
Colter: As we said before,so say I now again,If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,LET HIM BE ACCURSED.
We have been warned 2000years ago,that this will come; and it has come. Boditharta should take note too.
wakeup.
The default setting is always the same, any new truth, expanded truth, is always met with fear, threats of demonic influence, devils and such. Frightened people such as these go so far as to murder.How do I know these aren’t the doctrines of Demons (if any still existed) for the same reason that Jesus gave when intolerant religious bigots made the same accusation about his gospel: “And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?”
The Urantia revelation absolutely pummels Lucifer and Satan and the entire atheist that promote their lingering doctrines of doubt in the rule of the Universal Father. This revelation leaves no doubt as to who they were, how wrong they were and how disgraced they will forever be!!!!
The religious people that had Jesus put to death threw everything they could at him! He's from the Devil, he's a trickster, he doesn’t keep the laws of the elders, he consorts with sinners and whores, he floats the sacred law etc! Spies were sent, lawyers were sent to attempt to entrap him and turn the people against him. They did everything in their power to discredit Jesus, finally, with a hardness of heart, they tried to stop him by putting him through a trumped up trial with false witnesses and turned over to the Romans for death. Even Pilate saw the farce in it all but tragically surrendered.
Little did they know, their problems with Jesus had just begun.
So your fright of “doctrines of demons” default is just silly!
Wakeup, you problem is one of misinterpretation, Judas suffered from that. You perceive the enemy as your friend and a friend as your enemy. You simply have no idea what Christ has sent to earth in the latest dispensation of grace and truth.
John 16:1-4
“These things I have spoken to you, that you should not be made to stumble. They will put you out of the synagogues; yes, the time is coming that whoever kills you will think that he offers God service. And these things they will do to you because they have not known the Father nor Me. But these things I have told you, that when the time comes, you may remember that I told you of them.”
Colter
Colter.Dont tell us christians that the urantia doctrine is not another gospel.
And that this michael /Jesus, is not another Jesus.The urantia book is not the gospel written by the inspired
and anointed apostles.
**This gospel** shall be preached in all the earth,and then shall the end come.Colter: **This gospel**. The urantia was not then.
not for another 1900years. The qur'an is not then,not for another 600years.In latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits,and doctrine of devils.
You are one of them giving heed to seducing spirits.You need to rebuke them spirits in Jesus name.
wakeup.
**This Gospel**? Hasn't it been already preached in all the earth? Perhaps **This Gospel** is not the Gospel you assume it to be otherwise where is the end?
Boditharta.This gospel;as foretold by Jesus,shall be preached in all the earth,and then the end shall come.
We know that the gospel is preached in all the earth,
and therefore the end is at hand.
No other gospel but the one taught by the anointed apostles.The generation that experience all the wars of nation against nations, kingdoms against kingdoms, and
famines,and pestilences,and earthquakes in divers places.Signs in the sun and the moon and stars.Distress of nations with perplexity,the sea and the waves roaring.
These are the beginning of sorrows.Christians will be taken to the magistrate,some will be killed. Many will betray one another.
You shal be betrayed by parents ,neighbours,friends;children betraying parents.*Many* false prophets shall arise,and shall deceive many.
We are that generation,the end will be coming soon.
Every eye shall see the King of kings and the Lord of lords
coming in the clouds. The nations will come together to make war with him.This is how its going to end,the end of babylon the great,and never to come back again.
This is how the kingdom of God will start.wakeup.
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 27 2013,23:24) scripture does not say they made the blood Please Concede:
10 Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake.11 Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts:
12 Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake.
Please concede that MEN do NOT have the power to turn wooden staffs into living snakes.
20 Moses and Aaron did just as the Lord had commanded. He raised his staff in the presence of Pharaoh and his officials and struck the water of the Nile, and all the water was changed into blood.
21 The fish in the Nile died, and the river smelled so bad that the Egyptians could not drink its water. Blood was everywhere in Egypt.
22 But the Egyptian magicians did the same things by their secret arts……..
Please concede that MEN can NOT make water turn into blood.
6 So Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt, and the frogs came up and covered the land.
7 But the magicians did the same things by their secret arts; they also made frogs come up on the land of Egypt.
Please concede that MEN do NOT have the power to produce frogs out of thin air.
Asana, are MEN capable of doing THE SAME THINGS Jehovah did in the three examples above? YES or NO?
Will you concede that “they did the SAME THINGS” does NOT equate to “they did ILLUSIONS that LOOKED LIKE they were doing the same things”? YES or NO?
Will you concede that ONLY supernatural forces are capable of doing these kinds of things? YES or NO?
Will you concede that there was a REASON Jehovah not only punished the beasts and people of Egypt, but ALSO brought judgment against the GODS OF EGYPT? YES or NO?
You are simply in denial, man. If I get more of the same denial crap from you tomorrow, I will move on to Job.
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