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    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 11 2009,09:01)

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    Quote (savannah1207 @ Aug. 06 2009,20:31)
    Yes,we are so close to Jesus coming back.Our time is very very very short now.The NWO is very close.Every time I turn on CNN they're talking about it.Actually during the G8 Summit confrence a few months back the Russian president pulls out the new world currency money from his pocket.It is very interesting for our generation to be so so so so so close to the End Times.:)


    Jesus came back in AD70. We are in the eternal new covenant age now.

    thinker


    Well …. Looks like I missed the second coming….by at least 1939 years….Is there going to be a third coming for those that just do not know ??


    I wonder too how He comes to that conclusion.  Certainly not in the Biblical Prophecy.  We are in the end time, I don't think any of us would disagree with that.  My Husband has ask God to give Him wisdom to understand and He always prays first before He begins His studies. So I believe that He has a great understanding on that subject.  I have learned some from Georg.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Hi Irene

    But does't your husband believe Jesus has already returned?

    WJ


    W.J.  No my Husband does not think that Jesus returned yet.  
    And neither do I.
    What He does understand is that this Generation will not pass away til all is being fulfilled.  A Generation is 70 years.  The Jewish people became a Nation again in 1948, so from that time on 70 years is 2018.  Now of course that could change too, but right at this moment we don't see that happening.  It is His understand and knowing my Husband if any of you sees something differently, bring it on, amd He will take that into consideration.  It is thethinker that believes Jesus came back already in A.D. 70.  Not so.  When He does come back only the truth will be taught and do you see that happening?  I don't.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Let me correct my wife; YES I DO BELIEVE JESUS HAS RETURNED, and the saints have been resurrected.

    Also;

    The Israelites of today ARE the descendants of those that were scattered all over the world in 70 AD.
    They are the once Satan made war with, Rev. 12:13, 17.
    They are the once that had to endure the worst time of their existence during Hitler, Mat. 24:21, 22.
    They are the once God said he would bring back, and place them in their own land after their seven times punishment was served (times of the gentiles).

    Eze 36:17   Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.  
    Eze 36:18   Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:  
    Eze 36:19   And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.  
    Eze 36:21   But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.  
    Eze 36:22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.  
    Eze 36:24  For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.  

    Read verse 24 again, and tell me that did not happen.

    Georg


    Hi George

    OK, I didnt see your post before my last one!

    But, why would Irene tell me in answer to my question that you did not believe Jesus had returned?

    I know she must have known this!

    Confused?

    WJ

    #325868

    Quote (t8 @ May 05 2009,08:01)
    Here is a video of Kissinger talking about Obama and how he has an opportunity to further the goals of the New World Order.


    Hi t8

    I think it is part of the End Time prophesy!

    Obama has been called the Saviour of our country and he obviously IMO is a socialist!

    I think his horrific spending and takeover of the banks, auto industrie and now his ploy to control our health care system, is moving America to being a Communist government, while his spending will completely colapse our economy which could affect the world and lead us into some kind of “One world order”!

    WJ

    #325869
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 12 2009,01:50)
    Georg said:

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    Let me correct my wife; YES I DO BELIEVE JESUS HAS RETURNED, and the saints have been resurrected.

    Also;

    The Israelites of today ARE the descendants of those that were scattered all over the world in 70 AD.
    They are the once Satan made war with, Rev. 12:13, 17.
    They are the once that had to endure the worst time of their existence during Hitler, Mat. 24:21, 22.
    They are the once God said he would bring back, and place them in their own land after their seven times punishment was served (times of the gentiles).

    Eze 36:17   Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.  
    Eze 36:18   Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:  
    Eze 36:19   And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.  
    Eze 36:21   But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.  
    Eze 36:22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.  
    Eze 36:24  For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.  

    Read verse 24 again, and tell me that did not happen.

    Hi Georg,
    It's been a while dude. I am glad to know that you believe Jesus has returned and the saints have been resurrected. Are we in agreement that Jews today are not Abrahamic Jews and have no special promises except the “whosoever believes in Him” promise that all men have?

    thinker


    If you would pay attention what I say in my post, you would know we are not in agreement.

    Georg

    #325870
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Georg said:

    Quote
    If you would pay attention what I say in my post, you would know we are not in agreement.

    Hi Georg,
    You said this:

    Quote
    The Israelites of today ARE the descendants of those that were scattered all over the world in 70 AD.


    This is the reason I asked you if you believed that Jews today are not Abrahamic Jews. When they were scattered they intermarried and eventually lost their Abrahamic ethnicity. The Encyclopedia Britticana says that Jews today are not Abrahamic. This is in accord with Jesus' prediction that their house would be left “desoate.” God took away their ethnicity as a judgment upon them for rejecting their Messiah.

    We are in the new covenant age when ALL MEN receive the Abrahamic promises through faith in Christ Jesus. All men today, including those who are called “Jews” are spiritual sons and daughters through faith.

    Jesus said that their house would be left “desolate” and the fulfillment of this prophecy in history is confirmed by the EB. No “Jew” today can trace his geneaology back to Abraham. There is no ethnic Jew today. All mankind is of ONE blood.

    thinker

    #325871
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 11 2009,20:14)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 11 2009,11:57)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 11 2009,11:28)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 10 2009,19:11)

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 11 2009,09:24)

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 10 2009,00:28)

    Quote (savannah1207 @ Aug. 06 2009,20:31)
    Yes,we are so close to Jesus coming back.Our time is very very very short now.The NWO is very close.Every time I turn on CNN they're talking about it.Actually during the G8 Summit confrence a few months back the Russian president pulls out the new world currency money from his pocket.It is very interesting for our generation to be so so so so so close to the End Times.:)


    Jesus came back in AD70. We are in the eternal new covenant age now.

    thinker


    Well …. Looks like I missed the second coming….by at least 1939 years….Is there going to be a third coming for those that just do not know ??


    I wonder too how He comes to that conclusion.  Certainly not in the Biblical Prophecy.  We are in the end time, I don't think any of us would disagree with that.  My Husband has ask God to give Him wisdom to understand and He always prays first before He begins His studies. So I believe that He has a great understanding on that subject.  I have learned some from Georg.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Hi Irene

    But does't your husband believe Jesus has already returned?

    WJ


    W.J.  No my Husband does not think that Jesus returned yet.  
    And neither do I.
    What He does understand is that this Generation will not pass away til all is being fulfilled.  A Generation is 70 years.  The Jewish people became a Nation again in 1948, so from that time on 70 years is 2018.  Now of course that could change too, but right at this moment we don't see that happening.  It is His understand and knowing my Husband if any of you sees something differently, bring it on, amd He will take that into consideration.  It is thethinker that believes Jesus came back already in A.D. 70.  Not so.  When He does come back only the truth will be taught and do you see that happening?  I don't.
    Peace and Love Irene


    The Jewish people did NOT become a nation again in 1948. They are NOT  Abrahamic Jews. The “Israel” in Palestine today is not Abrahamic. Jesus said that the Abrahamic Jews would be scattered among all nations and that their house would be left “desolate.” The fulfillment of this began in ad70 and has been totally fulfilled. The NWO is the new covenant age inwhich all Jewish things have been done away. We are in the age of the spirit now.

    There is not another NWO to come. We are in  the NWO (new covenant age).

    thinker


    Greetings Thinker…..The house of Israel (Not…Judah) was taken captive by the Assyrians in the seventh century BC and dispursed( lost Ten Tribes )…The house of Judah (Judah,Benjimen and Levi) were taken captive in fifth century BC by the Babylonians….The decendents of modern day Israel are probably from the kingdom of Judah,however, the desolete house of Israel will be identified and joined together shortly with the coming of the King of Kings and the lord of Lords…

    #325872
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 12 2009,16:40)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 11 2009,09:01)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 11 2009,11:57)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 11 2009,11:28)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 10 2009,19:11)

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 11 2009,09:24)

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 10 2009,00:28)

    Quote (savannah1207 @ Aug. 06 2009,20:31)
    Yes,we are so close to Jesus coming back.Our time is very very very short now.The NWO is very close.Every time I turn on CNN they're talking about it.Actually during the G8 Summit confrence a few months back the Russian president pulls out the new world currency money from his pocket.It is very interesting for our generation to be so so so so so close to the End Times.:)


    Jesus came back in AD70. We are in the eternal new covenant age now.

    thinker


    Well …. Looks like I missed the second coming….by at least 1939 years….Is there going to be a third coming for those that just do not know ??


    I wonder too how He comes to that conclusion.  Certainly not in the Biblical Prophecy.  We are in the end time, I don't think any of us would disagree with that.  My Husband has ask God to give Him wisdom to understand and He always prays first before He begins His studies. So I believe that He has a great understanding on that subject.  I have learned some from Georg.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Hi Irene

    But does't your husband believe Jesus has already returned?

    WJ


    W.J.  No my Husband does not think that Jesus returned yet.  
    And neither do I.
    What He does understand is that this Generation will not pass away til all is being fulfilled.  A Generation is 70 years.  The Jewish people became a Nation again in 1948, so from that time on 70 years is 2018.  Now of course that could change too, but right at this moment we don't see that happening.  It is His understand and knowing my Husband if any of you sees something differently, bring it on, amd He will take that into consideration.  It is thethinker that believes Jesus came back already in A.D. 70.  Not so.  When He does come back only the truth will be taught and do you see that happening?  I don't.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Let me correct my wife; YES I DO BELIEVE JESUS HAS RETURNED, and the saints have been resurrected.

    Also;

    The Israelites of today ARE the descendants of those that were scattered all over the world in 70 AD.
    They are the once Satan made war with, Rev. 12:13, 17.
    They are the once that had to endure the worst time of their existence during Hitler, Mat. 24:21, 22.
    They are the once God said he would bring back, and place them in their own land after their seven times punishment was served (times of the gentiles).

    Eze 36:17   Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.  
    Eze 36:18   Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:  
    Eze 36:19   And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.  
    Eze 36:21   But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.  
    Eze 36:22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.  
    Eze 36:24  For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.  

    Read verse 24 again, and tell me that did not happen.

    Georg


    Hi George

    OK, I didnt see your post before my last one!

    But, why would Irene tell me in answer to my question that you did not believe Jesus had returned?

    I know she must have known this!

    Confused?  

    WJ


    W.J. I am 70 years old and at times I forget things. This is what happened. Again though, I do not believe that Christ has returned yet. Evidence of that fact is not present.
    Peace and Love Irene

    #325873
    theodorej
    Participant

    Greetings Cindy…..Iam onboard with that….there is no evidence of Christs return previous to this time,but there is overwhelming evidence that his return is iminent and very soon….Iam scared..

    #325874
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 13 2009,01:37)
    Greetings Cindy…..Iam onboard with that….there is no evidence of Christs return previous to this time,but there is overwhelming evidence that his return is iminent and very soon….Iam scared..


    Tj,
    Jesus said that the sign that would precede His coming would be the destruction of the temple that was THEN standing. This was fulfilled in ad70. So how can you say that there is no evidence that He returned then?

    thinker

    #325875
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 13 2009,01:37)
    Greetings Cindy…..Iam onboard with that….there is no evidence of Christs return previous to this time,but there is overwhelming evidence that his return is iminent and very soon….Iam scared..


    theodorei! You don't have to be scared. God told us that He will keep us safe from all destruction, and I will take His word for that. I am for ever looking forward to the day when He returns. No more pain, no more sorrow and all Truths will be taught.
    Peace and Love Irene

    #325876
    theodorej
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 13 2009,03:18)

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 13 2009,01:37)
    Greetings Cindy…..Iam onboard with that….there is no evidence of Christs return previous to this time,but there is overwhelming evidence that his return is iminent and very soon….Iam scared..


    Tj,
    Jesus said that the sign that would precede His coming would be the destruction of the temple that was THEN standing. This was fulfilled in ad70. So how can you say that there is no evidence that He returned then?

    thinker


    Greetings Thinker…..The time you speak of is correct,however ,we cannot rule out a spiritual occurance of the destruction of the temple in the form of a falling away of Gods church that is spoken of in scripture…In 70AD Jesus was not in a physical presense on earth,a phenomonon we will witness when he returns as King of Kings and Lord of Lords..

    #325877
    Jodi Lee
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 13 2009,01:37)
    Greetings Cindy…..Iam onboard with that….there is no evidence of Christs return previous to this time,but there is overwhelming evidence that his return is iminent and very soon….Iam scared..


    Hi theodorej,

    Do NOT be scared but embrace the wonderful truth of what the end means, a world soon led by Jesus and not a bunch of creeps.

    You need to be strong and let the truth empower you so that you can be the strength for others who are ignorant, that they might see your confidence and your faith that God is doing what is necessary.

    #325878
    Jodi Lee
    Participant

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 11 2009,11:57)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 11 2009,11:28)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 10 2009,19:11)

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 11 2009,09:24)

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 10 2009,00:28)

    Quote (savannah1207 @ Aug. 06 2009,20:31)
    Yes,we are so close to Jesus coming back.Our time is very very very short now.The NWO is very close.Every time I turn on CNN they're talking about it.Actually during the G8 Summit confrence a few months back the Russian president pulls out the new world currency money from his pocket.It is very interesting for our generation to be so so so so so close to the End Times.:)


    Jesus came back in AD70. We are in the eternal new covenant age now.

    thinker


    Well …. Looks like I missed the second coming….by at least 1939 years….Is there going to be a third coming for those that just do not know ??


    I wonder too how He comes to that conclusion.  Certainly not in the Biblical Prophecy.  We are in the end time, I don't think any of us would disagree with that.  My Husband has ask God to give Him wisdom to understand and He always prays first before He begins His studies. So I believe that He has a great understanding on that subject.  I have learned some from Georg.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Hi Irene

    But does't your husband believe Jesus has already returned?

    WJ


    W.J.  No my Husband does not think that Jesus returned yet.  
    And neither do I.
    What He does understand is that this Generation will not pass away til all is being fulfilled.  A Generation is 70 years.  The Jewish people became a Nation again in 1948, so from that time on 70 years is 2018.  Now of course that could change too, but right at this moment we don't see that happening.  It is His understand and knowing my Husband if any of you sees something differently, bring it on, amd He will take that into consideration.  It is thethinker that believes Jesus came back already in A.D. 70.  Not so.  When He does come back only the truth will be taught and do you see that happening?  I don't.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Hi Irene,

    Are you and George familiar with Gershon Salomon. I find this guy fascinating and stumbled upon him speaking about the Arch of the Covenant on the History channel a few weeks ago. Here is a link about him and a link to his web site. He believes the end is near, within the time frame that you believe, and he is in Jerusalem preparing to rebuild the Third Temple!

    http://www.templemountfaithful.org/leader.htm

    http://www.templemountfaithful.org/index.htm

    #325879
    karmarie
    Participant

    Hello all,

    http://mideastchristians.virtualactivism.net/who.htm

    These are christians who live in the middle east.

    #325880
    karmarie
    Participant

    Who is a jew?

    Galatians 3:28
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

    Babylon=The material world ??? (possesions, entertainment, property, etc)
    The beast=Modern Isreal ???? (was, is not and is to come at the time of Johns writting)

    But we are pilgrims and strangers in the world, looking toward the HEAVENLY JERUSALEM. Not part of Babylon and not looking longingly at the beast but rather looking upward and putting faith in the heavenly and the coming of our Lord. For where our heart is that is where our treasure lies.

    #325881
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 12 2009,20:59)
    Georg said:

    Quote
    If you would pay attention what I say in my post, you would know we are not in agreement.

    Hi Georg,
    You said this:

    Quote
    The Israelites of today ARE the descendants of those that were scattered all over the world in 70 AD.


    This is the reason I asked you if you believed that Jews today are not Abrahamic Jews. When they were scattered they intermarried and eventually lost their Abrahamic ethnicity. The Encyclopedia Britticana says that Jews today are not Abrahamic. This is in accord with Jesus' prediction that their house would be left “desoate.” God took away their ethnicity as a judgment upon them for rejecting their Messiah.

    We are in the new covenant age when ALL MEN receive the Abrahamic promises through faith in Christ Jesus. All men today, including those who are called “Jews” are spiritual sons and daughters through faith.

    Jesus said that their house would be left “desolate” and the fulfillment of this prophecy in history is confirmed by the EB. No “Jew” today can trace his geneaology back to Abraham. There is no ethnic Jew today. All mankind is of ONE blood.

    thinker


    Then explain to me the scriptures I gave you, while you're thinking up an answer, here are two more scriptures for you.

    Amos 9:8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
    Amos 9:9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

    be straight forward, and not evasive, this time.

    Georg

    #325882
    Cindy
    Participant

    Quote (Jodi Lee @ Aug. 13 2009,08:35)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 11 2009,11:57)

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 11 2009,11:28)

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 10 2009,19:11)

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 11 2009,09:24)

    Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 10 2009,00:28)

    Quote (savannah1207 @ Aug. 06 2009,20:31)
    Yes,we are so close to Jesus coming back.Our time is very very very short now.The NWO is very close.Every time I turn on CNN they're talking about it.Actually during the G8 Summit confrence a few months back the Russian president pulls out the new world currency money from his pocket.It is very interesting for our generation to be so so so so so close to the End Times.:)


    Jesus came back in AD70. We are in the eternal new covenant age now.

    thinker


    Well …. Looks like I missed the second coming….by at least 1939 years….Is there going to be a third coming for those that just do not know ??


    I wonder too how He comes to that conclusion.  Certainly not in the Biblical Prophecy.  We are in the end time, I don't think any of us would disagree with that.  My Husband has ask God to give Him wisdom to understand and He always prays first before He begins His studies. So I believe that He has a great understanding on that subject.  I have learned some from Georg.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Hi Irene

    But does't your husband believe Jesus has already returned?

    WJ


    W.J.  No my Husband does not think that Jesus returned yet.  
    And neither do I.
    What He does understand is that this Generation will not pass away til all is being fulfilled.  A Generation is 70 years.  The Jewish people became a Nation again in 1948, so from that time on 70 years is 2018.  Now of course that could change too, but right at this moment we don't see that happening.  It is His understand and knowing my Husband if any of you sees something differently, bring it on, amd He will take that into consideration.  It is thethinker that believes Jesus came back already in A.D. 70.  Not so.  When He does come back only the truth will be taught and do you see that happening?  I don't.
    Peace and Love Irene


    Hi Irene,

    Are you and George familiar with Gershon Salomon. I find this guy fascinating and stumbled upon him speaking about the Arch of the Covenant on the History channel a few weeks ago. Here is a link about him and a link to his web site. He believes the end is near, within the time frame that you believe, and he is in Jerusalem preparing to rebuild the Third Temple!

    http://www.templemountfaithful.org/leader.htm

    http://www.templemountfaithful.org/index.htm


    Why should there be any need for a new temple?
    The priesthood has been changed, Heb. 7:12.
    Jesus was the perfect sacrifice for all, Heb. 10:10.
    His sacrifice forgave us all our sins, Col. 2:13.
    Besides, God is building a new temple, 2 Cor. 6:16 and 1 Peter 2:5.

    Georg

    #325883
    Jodi Lee
    Participant

    Hi Georg,

    I think there might be some confusion here not sure let's find out. First let me say I am not a follower of this guy at all just sharing information about him and his church. Like I said I just stumbled across him less then two weeks ago from the history channel and find the whole thing fascinating, and wondered what you think.

    Gershon Salomon isn't planning on building a third temple right now, he is waiting for God to remove the Arab occupation of where the temple use to be.

    From the website-
    This is under Objectives of the Temple Mount-

    # Liberating the Temple Mount from Arab (Islamic) occupation. The Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa mosque were placed on this Jewish or Biblical holy site as a specific sign of Islamic conquest and domination. The Temple Mount can never be consecrated to the Name of G-d without removing these pagan shrines. It has been suggested that they be removed, transferred to and rebuilt at Mecca.

    This is under Vision of Redemtion-

    The Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement understands the phenomenon of modern Israel as the beginning of the redemption of the world. Two and one-half millennia ago, the Hebrew prophets spoke that in the “last days” G-d would regather His people from all the lands where He had scattered them [Yeshayahu (Isaiah) 43:5-7]. For the last 100 years the Jewish people have been returning to and rebuilding Zion. Today Israel is again the dynamic center of Jewish life across the world. The regathering is not yet complete. Ezekiel prophesied that G-d would “leave none of them there any longer” [Yechezkiel (Ezekiel) 39:28b].

    It is the view of the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful that the redemption will proceed in an orderly fashion according to G-d's plan.

       First is the foundation of the modern state of Israel and the miraculous victories that G-d gave the people of Israel in the wars against 22 Arab enemy states.

       Second is the regathering of the people of Israel from all over the world to the Promised Land.

       Third is the liberation and consecration of the Temple Mount and fourth is the building of the Third Temple.

       The final step is the coming of the King of Israel, Messiah Ben David.

    The existence of the state of Israel and the return of the people of G-d to the Promised Land is the biggest G-dly event and miracle in the history of mankind – ever. This was predicted by the prophets of Israel. We are calling all the nations to link arms in support of this people and the State of Israel to help her complete this process of redemption. We are not allowed to forget that the redemption of the people of Israel is a condition for the redemption of the earth. Also, we remember what G-d said over 4,000 years ago to Abraham, the father of the Israelites: “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you”.

    I admit I have yet to really study a whole lot on biblical prophecy, too busy studying other parts of the bible right now, but anyway, you mentioned that God is building a new temple, I am curious to know your understanding on that so could you please elaborate. Thanks!

    Blessings to you and Irene,   Jodi

    #325884
    Cindy
    Participant

    If you looked up the scriptures I gave you, 2 Cor. 6:16, and 1 Peter 2:5, they are self explaining.

    Georg

    #325885
    Douglas
    Participant

    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 13 2009,03:25)

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 13 2009,01:37)
    Greetings Cindy…..Iam onboard with that….there is no evidence of Christs return previous to this time,but there is overwhelming evidence that his return is iminent and very soon….Iam scared..


    theodorei!  You don't have to be scared.  God told us that He will keep us safe from all destruction, and I will take His word for that.  I am for ever looking forward to the day when He returns.  No more pain, no more sorrow and all Truths will be taught.  
    Peace and Love Irene


    I think it's pretty rational and intelligent to be scared by the prospect.

    Are you so sure somehow God will keep everyone who believes he will keep them safe – from starvation, random acts of violence, war, plague, etc? Or do you believe you will suffer a horrible death but then be brought back to life in a much better world?

    If I were the sort of person given to fear, and I didn't know exactly what I would do in the event of civilisation collapsing or decaying, I'd be pretty concerned too. I don't even have any children or grandchildren to worry about either.

    You can't sit around expecting God to save you. You do that for yourselves.

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    Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 13 2009,03:25)

    Quote (theodorej @ Aug. 13 2009,01:37)
    Greetings Cindy…..Iam onboard with that….there is no evidence of Christs return previous to this time,but there is overwhelming evidence that his return is iminent and very soon….Iam scared..


    theodorei!  You don't have to be scared.  God told us that He will keep us safe from all destruction, and I will take His word for that.  I am for ever looking forward to the day when He returns.  No more pain, no more sorrow and all Truths will be taught.  
    Peace and Love Irene


    I think it's pretty rational and intelligent to be scared by the prospect.

    Are you so sure somehow God will keep everyone who believes he will keep them safe – from starvation, random acts of violence, war, plague, etc? Or do you believe you will suffer a horrible death but then be brought back to life in a much better world?

    If I were the sort of person given to fear, and I didn't know exactly what I would do in the event of civilisation collapsing or decaying, I'd be pretty concerned too. I don't even have any children or grandchildren to worry about either.

    You can't sit around expecting God to save you. You do that for yourselves.


    I was born in 1938 and I remember very well how hungry we were after the war.  So for me there is nothing new about that.  Also I went trough the Bombing heavily in our City Rheine.  For most here in America it is going to be hard they have no idea what fear is, and I am not going there again.  For me at 71 I have no more to fear.  I am probable going to die soon since I am rather sick.  The Doctors are keeping me alive with Oxygen and Medication.  When I can't get it anymore death will be at my door.  But God did promise us to keep us from destruction.  Yes God is big enough to handle all people.  We might have to go through some, but from the wrath of God He will keep us safe.  I believe Him.
    Peace and Love Irene

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