New Testement The Quran

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 15 2012,14:27)

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2Beesee.

Jesus is hardly mentioned in the qur'an,and yet they say that he is born of God.
Very strange.

wakeup.

(1) We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride?- Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #87)
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(2) Say ye: “We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam).”
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)
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(3) Those messengers We endowed with gifts, some above others: To one of them Allah spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honour); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the holy spirit. If Allah had so willed, succeeding generations would not have fought among each other, after clear (Signs) had come to them, but they (chose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If Allah had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but Allah Fulfilleth His plan.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #253)
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(4) It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #3)
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(5) Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)
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(6) When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: “Who will be My helpers to (the work of) Allah?” Said the disciples: “We are Allah's helpers: We believe in Allah, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #52)
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(7) Behold! Allah said: “O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)
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(8) The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #59)
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(9) Say: “We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam).”
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #84)
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(10) That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #157)
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(11) We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #163)
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(12) O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not “Trinity”: desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)
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(13) And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #46)
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(14) Curses were pronounced on those among the
Children of Israel who rejected Faith, by the tongue of David and of Jesus the son of Mary: because they disobeyed and persisted in excesses.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #78)
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(15) Then will Allah say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #110)
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(16) Behold! the disciples, said: “O Jesus the son of Mary! can thy Lord send down to us a table set (with viands) from heaven?” Said Jesus: “Fear Allah, if ye have faith.”
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #112)
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(17) Said Jesus the son of Mary: “O Allah our Lord! Send us from heaven a table set (with viands), that there may be for us – for the first and the last of us – a solemn festival and a sign from thee; and provide for our sustenance, for thou art the best Sustainer (of our needs).”
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #114)
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(18) And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?” He will say: “Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #116)
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(19) And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the ranks of the righteous:
( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #85)
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(20) Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute.
( سورة مريم , Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #34)
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21) And remember We took from the prophets their covenant: As (We did) from thee: from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary: We took from them a solemn covenant:
( سورة الأحزاب , Al-Ahzab, Chapter #33, Verse #7)
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(22) The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah – the which We have sent by inspiration to thee – and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses, and Jesus: Namely, that ye should remain steadfast in religion, and make no divisions therein: to those who worship other things than Allah, hard is the (way) to which thou callest them. Allah chooses to Himself those whom He pleases, and guides to Himself those who turn (to Him).
( سورة الشورى , Ash-Shura, Chapter #42, Verse #13)
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(23) When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)!
( سورة الزخرف , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #57)
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(24) And (Jesus) shall be a Sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.
( سورة الزخرف , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #61)
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(25) When Jesus came with Clear Signs, he said: “Now have I come to you with Wisdom, and in order to make clear to you some of the (points) on which ye dispute: therefore fear Allah and obey me.
( سورة الزخرف , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #63)
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(26) Then, in their wake, We followed them up with (others of) Our messengers: We sent after them Jesus the son of Mary, and bestowed on him the Gospel; and We ordained in the hearts of those who followed him Compassion and Mercy. But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors.
( سورة الحديد , Al-Hadid, Chapter #57, Verse #27)
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(27) And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!”
( سورة الصف , As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #6)
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(28) O ye who believe! Be ye helpers of Allah: As said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples, “Who will be my helpers to (the work of) Allah?” Said the disciples, “We are Allah's helpers!” then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved: But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed.
( سورة الصف , As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #14)
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B,THARTA.

We can not have a discission,if you dont answer questions.

1. What do you stand regarding blood transfusion?
2. Are you muslem or christian?
3. Do you follow the muslem celebrations?
4. Do you celebrate christmas?
5. Do you take half day off on fridays?
6. Jesus was baptised. was mohamad babtised?
7. Jesus went to the rebuild temple of soloman; why did the muslems have the dome there instead.the dome is not what God has prescribed,for that Was Gods design.

wakeup.

November 16, 2012 at 2:23 pm#320646

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B,tharta.????

wakeup.

November 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm#320656

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Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 15 2012,16:54)

B,THARTA.

We can not have a discission,if you dont answer questions.

wakeup.

I have no problem with Blood transfusion you are confusing Islam with The Jehovah Witnesses(other Christians)

Every Muslim is also a follower and believer in Christ Jesus

Regarding the Muslim celebrations I don't follow them but I don't follow Christian celebrations either:

Colossians 2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Jesus was baptized in who's name?

The dome on the Mount replaced what Christians had turned it into which was a trash heap and before that a place that had an Idol statue

November 16, 2012 at 10:56 pm#320667

terraricca

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bod

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Every Muslim is also a follower and believer in Christ Jesus

liar,:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

November 17, 2012 at 8:03 am#320706

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 17 2012,08:56)

bod

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Every Muslim is also a follower and believer in Christ Jesus

liar,:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hi Pierre, (1 John 2:22)

Every muslim is taught instead to be 'antichrist'.
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

YHVH bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

November 17, 2012 at 10:40 am#320724

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 17 2012,06:59)

Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 15 2012,16:54)

B,THARTA.

We can not have a discission,if you dont answer questions.

wakeup.

I have no problem with Blood transfusion you are confusing Islam with The Jehovah Witnesses(other Christians)

Every Muslim is also a follower and believer in Christ Jesus

Regarding the Muslim celebrations I don't follow them but I don't follow Christian celebrations either:

Colossians 2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Jesus was baptized in who's name?

The dome on the Mount replaced what Christians had turned it into which was a trash heap and before that a place that had an Idol statue

B,tharta.

You are not a true muslem, and you are not a true christian
either.This is your choice.

Muslems dont eat blood,but regarding blood transfusion I dont know,perhaps you could inform me.

Why was the dome placed on the mount, instead of the temple? The temple is Gods design;the dome is mohamads and his followers design.

As you can see they are not the same,this only shows, that its not the same God,who designed the dome.
The God of the jews, is not the god of the muslems.

Therefore the qur'an is not inspired by the same God of the bible.

Christians are told to pray in secret;the muslems are told to pray in the open. This is the total opposite.This was not inspired by the same God.

The old scrolls were written in old hebrew. The qur'an is written in arabic.,why the sudden change?
Because its not the same God.

The sabath is the 7th day of rest for the jews.
The muslems changed it into to 6th day,why this sudden change? Because it is not of the same God.Therefore yhvh is not allah, and therefore Jesus is not a prophet of the muslems,but just adopted into the qur'an,to deceive.

And this ISA is not the same Jesus of the christians,because
ISA never sacrificed himself on the cross.
Jerusalem is the city chosen by God for his plan.
Mecca is chosen by mohamad,not Jerusalem,and therefore it is not the spirit.

There was a big gap from 33ad on to 630 ad. in the arab world,regarding islam,that gap was filled with many idols.

There was no gap in the christian world,it was continues.
We still worship God and his Son, who died on the cross and resurrected. Any other new doctrine introduced into Christianity,must be of the enemy.

wakeup.

November 17, 2012 at 11:29 am#320728

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630 ad.

Hi Wakeup,

630 AD? …what happened in 630 AD?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

November 17, 2012 at 11:31 am#320729

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Muhammad 570 – 632 AD.

November 17, 2012 at 10:12 pm#320816

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 17 2012,08:56)

bod

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Every Muslim is also a follower and believer in Christ Jesus

liar,:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hi Pierre, (1 John 2:22)

Every muslim is taught instead to be 'antichrist'.
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

YHVH bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

No Muslim is taught to be anti-christ, Ed why do you continue to lie?

At this point it is really disgusting

November 17, 2012 at 10:36 pm#320817

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B,tharta.

You are not a true muslem, and you are not a true christian
either.This is your choice.]/Quote]

You don't know what you are talking about what is a true Muslim or a true Christian?

[Quote]Muslems dont eat blood,but regarding blood transfusion I dont know,perhaps you could inform me.

No one is supposed to eat blood not even Christians:

Acts 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Those verses was directed to the gentiles who became Christians, You see you don't even know your Bible

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Why was the dome placed on the mount, instead of the temple? The temple is Gods design;the dome is mohamads and his followers design.

Actually the dome was built for the followers such as Christians and Jews to gather and Muhammad had nothing to do with it.

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As you can see they are not the same,this only shows, that its not the same God,who designed the dome.
The God of the jews, is not the god of the muslems.

The Jews and The Christians totally disagree, the Jews do not accept Jesus at all but you say that the God of the Jews is your God? Lol…The Muslims agree with the Christians that say Christ Jesus is the Jewish Messiah yet you say the God of the Jew is not the God of Muslims? You are confused

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Therefore the qur'an is not inspired by the same God of the bible.

Then the Jew is confused because they don't believe in Jesus so what or who was the Torah inspired by?

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Christians are told to pray in secret;the muslems are told to pray in the open. This is the total opposite.This was not inspired by the same God.

You still don't understand, Jesus prayed in the open all the prophets did the point Jesus was making was to not show off while praying being loud and drawing attention so others through being flamboyant.

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The old scrolls were written in old hebrew. The qur'an is written in arabic.,why the sudden change?
Because its not the same God.

Then you do not believe in the New Testament because it was not written in Hebrew it was written in Greek, so is it the same God?

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You just said the Sabbath i the 7th day of rest for the Jews, the Muslims do not call Friday the Sabbath and the are not Jews and neither are gentiles

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And this ISA is not the same Jesus of the christians,because
ISA never sacrificed himself on the cross.[Quote]

Neither did Jesus SACRIFICE himself can you even show me a single verse tha says “Jesus sacrificed himself”?

[Quote]Jerusalem is the city chosen by God for his plan.
Mecca is chosen by mohamad,not Jerusalem,and therefore it is not the spirit.

Makes no sense, read the Quran

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There was a big gap from 33ad on to 630 ad. in the arab world,regarding islam,that gap was filled with many idols.

Therefore it was good for God to send a revelation down to Muhammad and get rid of all the Idols and he did.

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Then you definitely believe in the trinity and that Mary is the Mother of God. Do you even know what the predominant Christian believes. Are you Catholic if not stop calling yourself a Christian because all denominations of Christianity come from Catholocism it is their MOTHER. Praying to statues worshiping saints and Mary(Mother Mary) celibacy of priests , sacraments, private confession…etc. Meet your Mother

You wakeup.

November 17, 2012 at 11:28 pm#320822

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Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 17 2012,20:40)

630 ad.

Hi Wakeup,

630 AD? …what happened in 630 AD?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

EDj.
In 630 ad is when mohamad started his religion.

wakeup.

November 18, 2012 at 3:11 am#320835

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 18 2012,08:36)

Wakeup,Nov. wrote:

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B,tharta.

You are not a true muslem, and you are not a true christian
either.This is your choice.]/Quote]

You don't know what you are talking about what is a true Muslim or a true Christian?

[Quote]Muslems dont eat blood,but regarding blood transfusion I dont know,perhaps you could inform me.

No one is supposed to eat blood not even Christians:

Acts 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Those verses was directed to the gentiles who became Christians, You see you don't even know your Bible

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Why was the dome placed on the mount, instead of the temple? The temple is Gods design;the dome is mohamads and his followers design.

Actually the dome was built for the followers such as Christians and Jews to gather and Muhammad had nothing to do with it.

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As you can see they are not the same,this only shows, that its not the same God,who designed the dome.
The God of the jews, is not the god of the muslems.

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Therefore the qur'an is not inspired by the same God of the bible.

Then the Jew is confused because they don't believe in Jesus so what or who was the Torah inspired by?

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Christians are told to pray in secret;the muslems are told to pray in the open. This is the total opposite.This was not inspired by the same God.

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The old scrolls were written in old hebrew. The qur'an is written in arabic.,why the sudden change?
Because its not the same God.

Then you do not believe in the New Testament because it was not written in Hebrew it was written in Greek, so is it the same God?

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You just said the Sabbath i the 7th day of rest for the Jews, the Muslims do not call Friday the Sabbath and the are not Jews and neither are gentiles

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And this ISA is not the same Jesus of the christians,because
ISA never sacrificed himself on the cross.[Quote]

Neither did Jesus SACRIFICE himself can you even show me a single verse tha says “Jesus sacrificed himself”?

[Quote]Jerusalem is the city chosen by God for his plan.
Mecca is chosen by mohamad,not Jerusalem,and therefore it is not the spirit.

Makes no sense, read the Quran

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There was a big gap from 33ad on to 630 ad. in the arab world,regarding islam,that gap was filled with many idols.

Therefore it was good for God to send a revelation down to Muhammad and get rid of all the Idols and he did.

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You wakeup.

Btharta.

Not so,I dont belong to any denomination.
I follow the holy book.

Here are some scriptures stating that Jesus gave up his life;not that it makes any difference to you,for yo can reject any scripture that dont suit you.

John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I LAY DOWN MY LIFE, that I might take it again.

John 10:18 No man taketh it from me, but I LAY IT DOWN OF MY SELF. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This COMMANDMENT have I received of my FATHER.(God speaking through him).

Commandment 4. Remember the sabath day,to keep it holy.
The muslems dont have this,so how can it be the same God?
Friday the 6th day is the day of worship for the muslems,this is not the same god.

The gap was with the muslems,from Adam to ad630. there was nothing re' allah or friday worship.There were no mosques.
Nothing; while the jews are worshipping God,and now the christians,still worshipping the same God.

That big gap needs to be filled,so they just borrowed it of the bible,take here a little and there a little.

The muslems dont have the 10 commandments.
They dont have the church; they dont have the apostles,they dont have the prophets,they dont have the revelations,they don have baptism,they dont have the new covenant and they dont have the truth.

wakeup.

November 18, 2012 at 7:12 am#320842

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630 ad.

Hi Wakeup,

630 AD? …what happened in 630 AD?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

EDj.
In 630 ad is when mohamad started his religion.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup

Not so, you're off by 20 years.

Muhammad started his religion in 610 AD. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

November 18, 2012 at 7:27 am#320844

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Every Muslim is also a follower and believer in Christ Jesus

liar,:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hi Pierre, (1 John 2:22)

Every muslim is taught instead to be 'antichrist'.
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

YHVH bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

No Muslim is taught to be anti-christ, Ed why do you continue to lie?

At this point it is really disgusting

Hi BD,

Is is not true that muslims teach that ‘their god al-Läh’ has no son?
“And this is the record, that YHVH hath given to us eternal life, and
this life is in his Son. He that hath “the Son” hath life; and he
that hath not the Son of God hath not life.” (1John 5:11-12)

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

November 18, 2012 at 10:51 am#320863

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630 ad.

Hi Wakeup,

630 AD? …what happened in 630 AD?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

EDj.
In 630 ad is when mohamad started his religion.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

630AD is the year the false prophet Muhammad declared
in Mecca that his god ‘al-Läh’ (falsely so) was the only god.

YHVH's blessings
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

November 18, 2012 at 2:43 pm#320893

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630 ad.

Hi Wakeup,

630 AD? …what happened in 630 AD?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

EDj.
In 630 ad is when mohamad started his religion.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup

Not so, you're off by 20 years.

Muhammad started his religion in 610 AD. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

Hi EDJ.

Lets just share the 10 yrs amongst us.

wakeup.

November 19, 2012 at 3:16 am#320970

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Btharta.

Not so,I dont belong to any denomination.
I follow the holy book.

Here are some scriptures stating that Jesus gave up his life;not that it makes any difference to you,for yo can reject any scripture that dont suit you.

John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I LAY DOWN MY LIFE, that I might take it again.

Commandment 4. Remember the sabath day,to keep it holy.
The muslems dont have this,so how can it be the same God?
Friday the 6th day is the day of worship for the muslems,this is not the same god.

That big gap needs to be filled,so they just borrowed it of the bible,take here a little and there a little.

wakeup.

Wakeup

The commandments and the Law was given to the Jews. God said they were a seperate people unto Himself. You do not keep the 4th commandment and the gentiles were not even told to keep the 4th commandment so once again you are not understanding what you are arguing about.

Acts 21:25
As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

Christians worship on Sunday and Muslims worship on Friday and guess what all the same God.

Also you don't follow the Holy book, you study it. You cannot tell me you are following the entire Jewish law and also being agentile not following the entire Jewish law so which part of the Holy Book are you not following?

As far as the commandments you should read the Quran and you would obviously know what you are talking about even how the Jews violated the Sabbath:

O ye People of the Book! believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming what was (already) with you, before We change the face and fame of some (of you) beyond all recognition, and turn them hindwards, or curse them as We cursed the sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be carried out.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #47)

And for their covenant we raised over them (the towering height) of Mount (Sinai); and (on another occasion) we said: “Enter the gate with humility”; and (once again) we commanded them: “Transgress not in the matter of the sabbath.” And we took from them a solemn covenant.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #154)

The sabbath was only made (strict) for those who disagreed (as to its observance); But Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment, as to their differences.
( سورة النحل , An-Nahl, Chapter #16, Verse #124)

and we know this is tru says Jesus:

Mark 2:27
And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

Islam has the prophets and all that came before it, would it make sense to say Christians don't have the Prophets? Think about it Christianity is based upon Jesus Christ the Jews reject Christ so they would not say the Jewish prophets are part of Christianity right?

November 19, 2012 at 3:17 am#320971

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630 ad.

Hi Wakeup,

630 AD? …what happened in 630 AD?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

EDj.
In 630 ad is when mohamad started his religion.

wakeup.

Hi Wakeup

Not so, you're off by 20 years.

Muhammad started his religion in 610 AD. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

Muhammad never started a religion and neither did Jesus

November 19, 2012 at 3:19 am#320973

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Every Muslim is also a follower and believer in Christ Jesus

liar,:D :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Hi Pierre, (1 John 2:22)

Every muslim is taught instead to be 'antichrist'.
“He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

YHVH bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

No Muslim is taught to be anti-christ, Ed why do you continue to lie?

At this point it is really disgusting

Hi BD,

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

Are you saying that only a son can be “Christ”? Isn't Christ a title that is specific? Adam was a son of God according to th scriptures was he also “Christ”?

November 19, 2012 at 7:56 pm#321020