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[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:17)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Oops, I mean 'Muhammad' got it WRONG; as there is no 'al-Lah' god, only Satan masquerading as an angel of light. (see 2Cor.11:14)

Who is Jesus speaking to here:

Mark 15:34
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Or here:

Matthew 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

which of the two did he actually say and what are these languages?

Surah 59

22 He is Allah, beside Whom La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He) the All-Knower of the unseen and the seen. He is the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.  
 
23 He is Allah beside Whom La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the King, the Holy, the One Free from all defects, the Giver of security, the Watcher over His creatures, the All-Mighty, the Compeller, the Supreme. Glory be to Allah! (High is He) above all that they associate as partners with Him.  
 
24 He is Allah, the Creator, the Inventor of all things, the Bestower of forms. To Him belong the Best Names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

And the most beautiful names belong to Allah so call on Him by them.

(Qur’an 7:180)

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness.

Hi BD,

It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”,
nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect.
Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother.
The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary.
Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”,
SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS!

Ed

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed

Luke 3:23-31

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

You should have read it yourself. Is Jesus the son of Joseph? Y/N

Also Jesus even says he is not the Son of David so either it is a statement of righteousness or Jesu jus denied his own relative

Matthew 22:41-43

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed

Matthew 22:45

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:49)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Luke 3:23-31 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, You should have read it yourself. Is Jesus the son of Joseph? Y/N Also Jesus even says he is not the Son of David so either it is a statement of righteousness or Jesu jus denied his own relative Matthew 22:41-43 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying,

Hi BD,

Joesph's lineage is found in Matthew 1:1-16, and NO Joseph was not Jesus' father;
the “HolySpirit” was Jesus' Father. (see Matthew 1:18, Matthew 1:20, & Luke 1:35)
Mary's lineage is in Luke 3:23-31 and that's HOW Jesus IS the son of David as well.

“Son of Man”    through Mary
“Son of God”    through the HolySpirit

Do you understand now?         (<– please answer)

Ed

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:59)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Matthew 22:45 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? (Matt 22:45)

This refers to Jesus being “The Son of God” – something muslims are taught to reject – right?

Ed

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Concerning Mary, do you believe that she was a surrogate Mother to Jesus?

Ed

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:08)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Luke 3:23-31 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, You should have read it yourself. Is Jesus the son of Joseph? Y/N Also Jesus even says he is not the Son of David so either it is a statement of righteousness or Jesu jus denied his own relative Matthew 22:41-43 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, Hi BD, Joesph's lineage is found in Matthew 1:1-16, and NO Joseph was not Jesus' father; the “HolySpirit” was Jesus' Father. (see Matthew 1:18, Matthew 1:20, & Luke 1:35) Mary's lineage is in Luke 3:23-31 and that's HOW Jesus IS the son of David as well. “Son of Man”    through Mary “Son of God”    through the HolySpirit Do you understand now?         (<– please answer) Ed

You are incorrect Luke 3:23-31 is th lineage of Joseph as I showed you and further Jesus says clearly why call “christ” son of David and yet you still do.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:34)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Luke 3:23-31 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, You should have read it yourself. Is Jesus the son of Joseph? Y/N Also Jesus even says he is not the Son of David so either it is a statement of righteousness or Jesu jus denied his own relative Matthew 22:41-43 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, Hi BD, Joesph's lineage is found in Matthew 1:1-16, and NO Joseph was not Jesus' father; the “HolySpirit” was Jesus' Father. (see Matthew 1:18, Matthew 1:20, & Luke 1:35) Mary's lineage is in Luke 3:23-31 and that's HOW Jesus IS the son of David as well. “Son of Man”    through Mary “Son of God”    through the HolySpirit Do you understand now?         (<– please answer) Ed You are incorrect Luke 3:23-31 is th lineage of Joseph as I showed you and further Jesus says clearly why call “christ” son of David and yet you still do.

(as was supposed)

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:13)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:59) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Matthew 22:45 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? (Matt 22:45) This refers to Jesus being “The Son of God” – something muslims are taught to reject – right? Ed

I like the way you can't deal with this conversation so you resort to topic switching without resolving the first topic.

Could we please conclude one topic at a time?

You can now see “Son of David” “sister of Aaron” and even “Son of God” are expressions of preeminence.

Believers are taught the truth ALL are the servants of GOD. Jesus is a creation, created by the WORD of GOD to be a WORD of GOD made flesh.

You will believe only Jesus is this “literal” son although it is a repeated an common phrase all through th Bible.

Genesis 6:2
that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Job 1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

Job 38:7
when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Romans 8:14
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Romans 8:19
For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Luke 20:36
neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Romans 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Psalm 82:1
[ Psalm 82 ] [ A Psalm of Asaph. ] God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

[Ed J]

Who's lineage is in Matthew 1:1-16 then?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:43)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:34) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Luke 3:23-31 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, You should have read it yourself. Is Jesus the son of Joseph? Y/N Also Jesus even says he is not the Son of David so either it is a statement of righteousness or Jesu jus denied his own relative Matthew 22:41-43 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, Hi BD, Joesph's lineage is found in Matthew 1:1-16, and NO Joseph was not Jesus' father; the “HolySpirit” was Jesus' Father. (see Matthew 1:18, Matthew 1:20, & Luke 1:35) Mary's lineage is in Luke 3:23-31 and that's HOW Jesus IS the son of David as well. “Son of Man”    through Mary “Son of God”    through the HolySpirit Do you understand now?         (<– please answer) Ed You are incorrect Luke 3:23-31 is th lineage of Joseph as I showed you and further Jesus says clearly why call “christ” son of David and yet you still do. (as was supposed)

(as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,…..

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:49)

Who's lineage is in Matthew 1:1-16 then?

Matthew 1:16

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

It is the SAME.

So is Joseph the Father of Christ Jesus?

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:50)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:43) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:34) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:49) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Luke 3:23-31 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, You should have read it yourself. Is Jesus the son of Joseph? Y/N Also Jesus even says he is not the Son of David so either it is a statement of righteousness or Jesu jus denied his own relative Matthew 22:41-43 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 saying, What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The Son of David. 43 He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, Hi BD, Joesph's lineage is found in Matthew 1:1-16, and NO Joseph was not Jesus' father; the “HolySpirit” was Jesus' Father. (see Matthew 1:18, Matthew 1:20, & Luke 1:35) Mary's lineage is in Luke 3:23-31 and that's HOW Jesus IS the son of David as well. “Son of Man”    through Mary “Son of God”    through the HolySpirit Do you understand now?         (<– please answer) Ed You are incorrect Luke 3:23-31 is th lineage of Joseph as I showed you and further Jesus says clearly why call “christ” son of David and yet you still do. (as was supposed) (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,…..

Not Joseph, but Jesus (through his mother Mary) was the son of Heli,…

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:53)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:49) Who's lineage is in Matthew 1:1-16 then? Matthew 1:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. It is the SAME. So is Joseph the Father of Christ Jesus?

The lineage is different.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:56)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:53) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:49) Who's lineage is in Matthew 1:1-16 then? Matthew 1:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. It is the SAME. So is Joseph the Father of Christ Jesus? The lineage is different.

ED

John 1:13
which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:49)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:13) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,09:59) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:55) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:39) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:19) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,07:15) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,07:10) “O sister of Aaron!” (Sura 019.028) WRONG MARY! Your god 'al-Lah' got it wrong! Matthew 12:23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David? Jesus lineage DOES go back to David through his mother Mary. (see Luke 3:23-31) Then I guess the Surah was right, plus you do realized the term Son of David isn't literal right? Jus like “O sister of Aaron” These are statements of righteousness. Hi BD, It is literal, the Hebrew DOES NOT have a word for “Grand-Father”, nor “Great-Grand-Father, nor “Great-Great-Grand-Father” ect. Jesus was literally “the son of David” through his Mother. The quran simply GOT IT WRONG – the wrong Mary. Arron did in FACT have a sister called “Mary”, SHE WAS NOT THE MOTHER OF JESUS! Ed Matthew 22:45 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 45 If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? If David then call him Lord, how is he his son? (Matt 22:45) This refers to Jesus being “The Son of God” – something muslims are taught to reject – right? Ed I like the way you can't deal with this conversation so you resort to topic switching without resolving the first topic. Could we please conclude one topic at a time? You can now see “Son of David” “sister of Aaron” and even “Son of God” are expressions of preeminence. Believers are taught the truth ALL are the servants of GOD. Jesus is a creation, created by the WORD of GOD to be a WORD of GOD made flesh. You will believe only Jesus is this “literal” son although it is a repeated an common phrase all through th Bible. Genesis 6:2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. Job 38:7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. Luke 20:36 neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: Psalm 82:1 [ Psalm 82 ] [ A Psalm of Asaph. ] God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

Hi BD,

“Son of David” has nothing to do with preeminence, but the lineage that the promise of the coming “Messiah” would come through.

Jesus was the only begotten “Son of God” – we become “Son's of God”
when we are baptized “BY” Jesus Christ with God's “HolySpirit”. (see John 1:33)

And Mary WAS NOT THE SISTER OF ARRON, the quran simply got it wrong.
And man did not come from a blood-clot either; the quran is full of errors.

Ed

[Ed J]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,11:02)

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:53) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:49) Who's lineage is in Matthew 1:1-16 then? Matthew 1:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. It is the SAME. So is Joseph the Father of Christ Jesus? The lineage is different. ED John 1:13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Do you agree that Joseph was NOT Jesus' father?

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:16)

Hi BD, Concerning Mary, do you believe that she was a surrogate Mother to Jesus? Ed

Please answer this question.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,11:05)

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,11:02) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ July 01 2013,10:53) Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2013,10:49) Who's lineage is in Matthew 1:1-16 then? Matthew 1:16 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 16 and Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. It is the SAME. So is Joseph the Father of Christ Jesus? The lineage is different. ED John 1:13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Do you agree that Joseph was NOT Jesus' father?

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