New Age Philosophy Tim Kraft?

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  • #268930
    Ed J
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    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:24)

    Thanks Ed. I tell the church what I think they are wrong about too. At least you have the courtesy of discussing it with me.
    It helps me and gives me a release for the confusion I feel from it.  I hope ya'll wake up to the supremacy of GOD.


    Hi Mark,

    Your welcome! My goal is to help you to remove YOUR confusion!

    Your friend,
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268931
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,22:29)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:19)
    Ok, Ok, I'll get off of that. There is much,much more supposedly sinless Ed. In your book, it is also written-

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    JAH, GOD the Father is “father” to the
    physically fatherless Jesus.

    This is also another Ed assumed fact stated as truth. But the truth is you cannot know how “physical” or “spiritual” the Fatherhood of God is to Jesus. I believe it is both. I believe that is why he is holy, because his physical origins come from God, not Man. So-

      WHEN YOU SAY JESUS IS PHYSICALLY FATHERLESS, YOU ARE AGAIN WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Hi Mark,

    Do you believe that Joesph was (according to Mark) Jesus' real father?

    Psalms 68:4-5 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name:
    extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH,
    and rejoice before him. 5 A father of the fatherless, and a
    judge of the widows (Luke 18:1-8), is God in his holy habitation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    because his physical origins come from God, not Man. So-

    Read man, Read.


    Hi Mark,

    Did Jesus have a physical father, yes or no?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268932
    mikeangel
    Participant

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    A father of the fatherless, and a
    judge of the widows (Luke 18:1-8), is God in his holy habitation.

    This is obviously about orphans, Jesus wasn't an orphan.

    #268933
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mark,

    Answer my post above yours; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268934
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,22:36)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,22:29)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:19)
    Ok, Ok, I'll get off of that. There is much,much more supposedly sinless Ed. In your book, it is also written-

    Quote
    JAH, GOD the Father is “father” to the
    physically fatherless Jesus.

    This is also another Ed assumed fact stated as truth. But the truth is you cannot know how “physical” or “spiritual” the Fatherhood of God is to Jesus. I believe it is both. I believe that is why he is holy, because his physical origins come from God, not Man. So-

      WHEN YOU SAY JESUS IS PHYSICALLY FATHERLESS, YOU ARE AGAIN WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Hi Mark,

    Do you believe that Joesph was (according to Mark) Jesus' real father?

    Psalms 68:4-5 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name:
    extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH,
    and rejoice before him. 5 A father of the fatherless, and a
    judge of the widows (Luke 18:1-8), is God in his holy habitation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    because his physical origins come from God, not Man. So-

    Read man, Read.


    Hi Mark,

    Did Jesus have a physical father, yes or no?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ABSOLUTELY! GOD!

    #268935
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,22:36)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:32)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,22:29)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:19)
    Ok, Ok, I'll get off of that. There is much,much more supposedly sinless Ed. In your book, it is also written-

    Quote
    JAH, GOD the Father is “father” to the
    physically fatherless Jesus.

    This is also another Ed assumed fact stated as truth. But the truth is you cannot know how “physical” or “spiritual” the Fatherhood of God is to Jesus. I believe it is both. I believe that is why he is holy, because his physical origins come from God, not Man. So-

      WHEN YOU SAY JESUS IS PHYSICALLY FATHERLESS, YOU ARE AGAIN WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Hi Mark,

    Do you believe that Joesph was (according to Mark) Jesus' real father?

    Psalms 68:4-5 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name:
    extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH,
    and rejoice before him. 5 A father of the fatherless, and a
    judge of the widows (Luke 18:1-8), is God in his holy habitation.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Quote
    because his physical origins come from God, not Man. So-

    Read man, Read.


    Hi Mark,

    Did Jesus have a physical father, yes or no?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ABSOLUTELY! GOD!


    Hi Mark,

    Are you saying God is (according to Mark) a physical being?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268938
    mikeangel
    Participant

    HE IS! SPIRITUAL TOO! HE IS EVERYTHING! ALL IN ALL! HE SITS ON HIS THRONE IN HEAVEN! GLORY TO GOD!

    #268941
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:46)
    HE IS!  SPIRITUAL TOO! HE IS EVERYTHING! ALL IN ALL! HE SITS ON HIS THRONE IN HEAVEN! GLORY TO GOD!


    Hi Mark,

    The bible does NOT say that God is (according to Mark) a physical being?
    Do you have any proof of this assertion, or is this merely more of YOUR 'spin'?
    John 4:24 God is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268942
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Here Ed-Here in John, Jesus is speaking of his Father, his physical and spiritual Father.

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    53Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

    54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

    55Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

    56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

    57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

    58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

    This is KJV, what you say is THE inspired version of the Bible. And he says”Before Abraham was, I am.” And you say that “I am” is the devil. Who needs to help who's confusion?
    ???

    #268943
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,22:55)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:46)
    HE IS!  SPIRITUAL TOO! HE IS EVERYTHING! ALL IN ALL! HE SITS ON HIS THRONE IN HEAVEN! GLORY TO GOD!


    Hi Mark,

    The bible does NOT say that God is (according to Mark) a physical being?
    Do you have any proof of this assertion, or is this merely more of YOUR 'spin'?
    John 4:24 God is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Have you not read where Paul says Jesus is “All in All” What is All Ed? In John 1, where it states where EVERYTHING was created through the word, Ed-WHAT DOES EVERYTHING MEAN?

    #268944
    mikeangel
    Participant

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    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name,
    saying, I am; and shall deceive many.
    I am: is the devil!

    ED

    #268945
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:58)
    Here Ed-Here in John, Jesus is speaking of his Father, his physical and spiritual Father.

    Quote
    53Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?

    54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

    55Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

    56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

    57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

    58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

    This is KJV, what you say is THE inspired version of the Bible. And he says”Before Abraham was, I am.”  And you say that “I am” is the devil. Who needs to help who's confusion?  
    ???


    Hi Mark,

    Please identify the part SPECIFICALLY where you believe that
    the bible is saying that God is (according to Mark) a physical being?
    First you say you're confused and now you say you're not; is that right?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268947
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,23:02)

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    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name,
    saying, I am; and shall deceive many.
    I am: is the devil!

    ED


    Mark

    Here is the thread if you wish to discuss this further. (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268948
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,23:00)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,22:55)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,22:46)
    HE IS!  SPIRITUAL TOO! HE IS EVERYTHING! ALL IN ALL! HE SITS ON HIS THRONE IN HEAVEN! GLORY TO GOD!


    Hi Mark,

    The bible does NOT say that God is (according to Mark) a physical being?
    Do you have any proof of this assertion, or is this merely more of YOUR 'spin'?
    John 4:24 God is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Have you not read where Paul says Jesus is “All in All” What is All Ed? In John 1, where it states where EVERYTHING was created through the word, Ed-WHAT DOES EVERYTHING MEAN?


    Hi Mark,

    I think you do have trouble with comprehension.

    “that God may be all in all.” (1Cor.15:28)   <– Whom is this verse referencing?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268949
    mikeangel
    Participant

    No, I do not wish to discuss it. God became manifest in the incarnation of Jesus. He was and came from God, the word of God. He was Physical. He rules. He is both. He is everything. This perfection was infected with evil, which will be destroyed on the last day. I do not claim to comprehend God, I just accept that he is, and he walked the earth, and he rose and took his seat, and he is comming again to destroy evil, and it will be perfect and sinless again. To those who think they comprehend Jesus origins- (KJV for you Ed :) )

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    27 Howbeit we know this man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he is.

    28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.

    29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

    For I AM from HIM, and he physically stood in front of them.

    #268950
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,23:24)
    No, I do not wish to discuss it. God became manifest in the incarnation of Jesus. He was and came from God, the word of God. He was Physical. He rules. He is both. He is everything. This perfection was infected with evil, which will be destroyed on the last day. I do not claim to comprehend God, I just accept that he is, and he walked the earth, and he rose and took his seat, and he is comming again to destroy evil, and it will be perfect and sinless again. To those who think they comprehend Jesus origins- (KJV for you Ed :) )

    Quote
    27 Howbeit we know this man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he is.

    28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.

    29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

     

    For I AM from HIM, and he physically stood in front of them.


    Hi Mark,

    Sorry, but that verse doesn't say that God (according to Mark) is a physical being.
    You do know WE are speaking of Jesus' father, not Jesus, you do know that; right?
    I would hate to see YOUR comprehension problems get in the way of our discussion. :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268951
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Thats the same discussion I had with Mikeboll. He claims to comprehend to know how much of Jesus was God or not. He claims that John 1:1, “IN THE BEGINNING” was not eternity, and that Jesus origins were from only when the earth was created, separating him from God. I do not believe that. They are one.They are the same. When you saw Jesus, you saw God the Father also. They are “the alpha and the omega”. Everything is from and through them. They are, and they call themselves “I AM”. Their spirit is a part of all who believe, and guides us, but is not totally us yet. IMO.Love,Mark :cool:

    #268952
    mikeangel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,23:32)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,23:24)
    No, I do not wish to discuss it. God became manifest in the incarnation of Jesus. He was and came from God, the word of God. He was Physical. He rules. He is both. He is everything. This perfection was infected with evil, which will be destroyed on the last day. I do not claim to comprehend God, I just accept that he is, and he walked the earth, and he rose and took his seat, and he is comming again to destroy evil, and it will be perfect and sinless again. To those who think they comprehend Jesus origins- (KJV for you Ed :) )

    Quote
    27 Howbeit we know this man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he is.

    28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.

    29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

     

    For I AM from HIM, and he physically stood in front of them.


    Hi Mark,

    Sorry, but that verse doesn't say that God (according to Mark) is a physical being.
    You do know WE are speaking of Jesus' father, not Jesus, you do know that; right?
    I would hate to see YOUR comprehension problems get in the way of our discussion. :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Anyone who states how evil was separated from God, or I AM is the devil, I will not allow to explain God to me. Peace- :cool:

    #268953
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,23:38)
    Thats the same discussion I had with Mikeboll. He claims to comprehend to know how much of Jesus was God or not. He claims that John 1:1, “IN THE BEGINNING” was not eternity, and that Jesus origins were from only when the earth was created, separating him from God. I do not believe that. They are one.They are the same. When you saw Jesus, you saw God the Father also. They are “the alpha and the omega”. Everything is from and through them. They are, and they call themselves “I AM”. Their spirit is a part of all who believe, and guides us, but is not totally us yet. IMO.Love,Mark  :cool:


    Hi Mark,

    You still have NOT answered my question, will you do so?
    Please identify the part SPECIFICALLY where you believe that
    the bible is saying that God is (according to Mark) a physical being?

    God bless
    Ed J
    (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #268954
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,23:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 22 2011,23:32)

    Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 22 2011,23:24)
    No, I do not wish to discuss it. God became manifest in the incarnation of Jesus. He was and came from God, the word of God. He was Physical. He rules. He is both. He is everything. This perfection was infected with evil, which will be destroyed on the last day. I do not claim to comprehend God, I just accept that he is, and he walked the earth, and he rose and took his seat, and he is comming again to destroy evil, and it will be perfect and sinless again. To those who think they comprehend Jesus origins- (KJV for you Ed :) )

    Quote
    27 Howbeit we know this man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he is.

    28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.

    29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

     

    For I AM from HIM, and he physically stood in front of them.


    Hi Mark,

    Sorry, but that verse doesn't say that God (according to Mark) is a physical being.
    You do know WE are speaking of Jesus' father, not Jesus, you do know that; right?
    I would hate to see YOUR comprehension problems get in the way of our discussion. :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Anyone who states how evil was separated from God, or I AM is the devil, I will not allow to explain God to me. Peace-   :cool:


    hi Mark,

    Have it your way. Free-will you know. :D
    I'm certain you will change your mind
    by asking me some more questions.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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