Nehemiah Entered the curse by oath

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    Neh 9:38 ¶ And because of all this we make a sure [covenant], and write [it]; and our priest seal it
    Neh 10:1 ¶ Now those that sealed [were], Nehemiah, the Tirshatha, the son of Hachaliah, and Zidkijah,
    Neh 10:29 They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, and into an oath, to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORD our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;

    Neh 13:25 And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, [saying], Ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons, or for yourselves.
    Neh 13:31 And for the wood offering, at times appointed, and for the firstfruits. Remember me, O my God, for good.

    These builders sure rejected the stone that was layed; even the sure mercys of David.

    This was the oaths that based the foundations of the church that Christ gave his life for; the church still operates today,
    Also in Revlations, he who overcomes will be given a morning star; or their candle will quickly removed as he said I will come quickly and remove you from out of this place; as the thief in the night coming.

    Paul works against the oaths set up by Nehemiah where people have entered a cursed church.
    2Cr 11:7 Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?
    2Cr 11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages [of them], to do you service.

    Paul is convincing the church to put the lawless Man to the side so Christ can come for them; and their candle sticks will be removed causing fear

    2Th 2:1 ¶ Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and [by] our gathering together unto him,
    2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
    2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    This is the revealing of Ezra Nehemiah and the oaths; that Jeremiah wrote the priest and prophets had no vision, and no where is God found talking with these prophets in their books; they work wonders on their own strength, using the Law of Moses to do mischief

    Jer 5:30 ¶ A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land
    Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love [to have it] so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

    Those of not good seed carry on this kingdom until its foundations are revealed; in each heart; it being the city Mystery Babylon, Jerusalem under Babylon; The Santuary entered; and the people wounder How did he enter?

    2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
    2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
    2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    The enemy rejoices these day’s in there city of power; Holding firm to Job Nehemiah did in his own might?

    Lam 2:15 All that pass by clap [their] hands at thee; they hiss and wag their head at the daughter of Jerusalem, [saying, Is] this the city that [men] call The perfection of beauty, The joy of the whole earth?
    Lam 2:16 All thine enemies have opened their mouth against thee: they hiss and gnash the teeth: they say, We have swallowed [her] up: certainly this [is] the day that we looked for; we have found, we have seen [it].
    Lam 2:17 The LORD hath done [that] which he had devised; he hath fulfilled his word that he had commanded in the days of old: he hath thrown down, and hath not pitied: and he hath caused [thine] enemy to rejoice over thee, he hath set up the horn of thine adversaries.
    Lam 2:18 ¶ Their heart cried unto the Lord, O wall of the daughter of Zion, let tears run down like a river day and night: give thyself no rest; let not the apple of thine eye cease.
    Lam 2:19 Arise, cry out in the night: in the beginning of the watches pour out thine heart like water before the face of the Lord: lift up thy hands toward him for the life of thy young children, that faint for hunger in the top of every street.

    Israel early devotion;

    Jer 2:1 ¶ Moreover the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
    Jer 2:2 Go and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; I remember thee, the kindness of thy youth, the love of thine espousals, when thou wentest after me in the wilderness, in a land [that was] not sown.
    Jer 2:3 Israel [was] holiness unto the LORD, [and] the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the LORD.

    Incredibility of Jerusalem’s fall
    Lam 4:11 The LORD hath accomplished his fury; he hath poured out his fierce anger, and hath kindled a fire in Zion, and it hath devoured the foundations thereof.
    Lam 4:12 The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem.
    Lam 4:13 ¶ For the sins of her prophets, [and] the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her,
    Lam 4:14 They have wandered [as] blind [men] in the streets, they have polluted themselves with blood, so that men could not touch their garments.
    Lam 4:15 They cried unto them, Depart ye; [it is] unclean; depart, depart, touch not: when they fled away and wandered, they said among the heathen, They shall no more sojourn [there].
    Lam 4:16 The anger of the LORD hath divided them; he will no more regard them: they respected not the persons of the priests, they favoured not the elders.
    Lam 4:17 As for us, our eyes as yet failed for our vain help: in our watching we have watched for a nation [that] could not save [us].
    Lam 4:18 They hunt our steps, that we cannot go in our streets: our end is near, our days are fulfilled; for our end is come.

    We sit in amongst this mess of principalities evil force and things set up, that we should move the lawlessness one to the side; and any that carry his oath into our lives

    Peace be with you

    charity

    #33460
    charity
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    Nehemiah Void of Mercy!

    Even the sure mercy’s of David
    Psa 6:5 For in death [there is] no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
    Psa 18:44 As soon as they hear of me, they shall obey me: the strangers shall submit themselves unto me.

    Dan 10:14 Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision [is] for [many] days.

    Hsa 3:5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

    Dan 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end [be]: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

    Nice work Nehemiah! Building without the stone
    Neh 9:2 And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers.

    Spot the I cleansed them in this verse, Nehemiah’s heart revealed; Pride even.
    Neh 13:30 Thus cleansed I them from all strangers, and appointed the wards of the priests and the Levites, every one in his business;

    Lev 19:33 ¶ And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
    Lev 19:34 [But] the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I [am] the LORD your God.
    Jer 3:13 Only acknowledge thine iniquity, that thou hast transgressed against the LORD thy God, and hast scattered thy ways to the strangers under every green tree, and ye have not obeyed my voice, saith the LORD.
    Jer 3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD; for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

    Christ comes to reestablish the throne of mercy For King David
    1 Pe:11 ¶ Dearly beloved, I beseech [you] as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
    1Pe 1:1 ¶ Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
    1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
    3Jo 1:5 ¶ Beloved, thou doest faithfully whatsoever thou doest to the brethren, and to strangers;
    3Jo 1:6 Which have borne witness of thy charity before the church: whom if thou bring forward on their journey after a godly sort, thou shalt do well:
    3Jo 1:7 Because that for his name's sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.
    3Jo 1:8 We therefore ought to receive such, that we might be fellowhelpers to the truth.

    Charity

    #33463
    charity
    Participant

    Quick Hair Cut For Nehemiah?

    Yes consaulted with yourself?
    Neh 5:7 Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.
    Neh 9:34 Neither have our kings, our princes, our priests, nor our fathers, kept thy law, nor hearkened unto thy commandments and thy testimonies, wherewith thou didst testify against them.

    (Well that’s Not ALL truth Nehemiah; King David had a rightous Heart before God)
    Psa 40:9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.
    Psa 40:10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.
    Psa 40:11 Withhold not thou thy tender mercies from me, O LORD: let thy lovingkindness and thy truth continually preserve me.

    Carry on what was that you were saying Nehemiah?
    Neh 9:35 For they have not served thee in their kingdom, and in thy great goodness that thou gavest them, and in the large and fat land which thou gavest before them, neither turned they from their wicked works.

    Here what God has to say; Just A little more Than A cup bearer For the Job

    Psa 40:9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.
    Psa 40:10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.
    Psa 40:11 Withhold not thou thy tender mercies from me, O LORD: let thy lovingkindness and thy truth continually preserve me.

    Eze 37:22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
    Eze 37:24 And David my servant [shall be] king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

    Neh 1:11 O Lord, I beseech thee, let now thine ear be attentive to the prayer of thy servant, and to the prayer of thy servants, who desire to fear thy name: and prosper, I pray thee, thy servant this day, and grant him mercy in the sight of this man. For I was the king's cupbearer.

    charity

    #33464
    sscott
    Participant

    Charity,

    The reason you don't understand the scriptures can only be two reasons… one … you either don't have the Spirit… or two… you have wandered so far into error and deception you can no longer read the Word and understand what it means.

    #33475
    charity
    Participant

    Thankyou sscott

    Is it still called a hearing if a deaf man goes to court?

    charity

    #33477
    charity
    Participant

    Neh 10:29 They clave to their brethren, their nobles, and entered into a curse, and into an oath, to walk in God's law, which was given by Moses the servant of God, and to observe and do all the commandments of the LORD our Lord, and his judgments and his statutes;

    Gal 3:19 ¶ Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

    Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

    Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

    1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

    And least you think I lead any away from the law?
    I do not! All must Go through the Law by obediance to God!
    For the Law must be fufulled in each one that they may come to broken heart; then that shall be a sacrifice of sweet savour before the Lord.
    An exceptable offering; as Abrahams was!
    Worthy of the promise before God.

    charity

    #33580
    charity
    Participant

    Strangers To Israel with Inheritance

    Neh 13:30 Thus cleansed I them from all strangers, and appointed the wards of the priests and the Levites, every one in his business;
    Neh 9:2 And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all strangers, and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers.

    Ezra I thought God made the covenents with men; not MAN HARKENING GOD? Ezra?
    Ezr 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

    Mercy to the cast out children
    Jer 31:15 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, [and] bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they [were] not.
    Jer 31:16 ¶ Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy.
    Jer 31:17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.

    Mat 2:17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying,
    Mat 2:18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping [for] her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.

    Jer 3:19 ¶ But I said, How shall I put thee among the children, and give thee a pleasant land, a goodly heritage of the hosts of nations? and I said, Thou shalt call me, My father; and shalt not turn away from me.
    Jer 3:20 Surely [as] a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
    Jer 3:21 ¶ A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping [and] supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, [and] they have forgotten the LORD their God.

    Gen 30:1 ¶ And when Rachel saw that she bare Jacob no children, Rachel envied her sister; and said unto Jacob, Give me children, or else I die.
    Gen 30:2 And Jacob's anger was kindled against Rachel: and he said, [Am] I in God's stead, who hath withheld from thee the fruit of the womb?
    Gen 30:3 And she said, Behold my maid Bilhah, go in unto her; and she shall bear upon my knees, that I may also have children by her.
    Gen 30:4 And she gave him Bilhah her handmaid to wife: and Jacob went in unto her.
    Gen 30:5 And Bilhah conceived, and bare Jacob a son.
    Gen 30:6 And Rachel said, God hath judged me, and hath also heard my voice, and hath given me a son: therefore called she his name Dan.
    Gen 30:7 And Bilhah Rachel's maid conceived again, and bare Jacob a second son.
    Gen 30:8 And Rachel said, With great wrestlings have I wrestled with my sister, and I have prevailed: and she called his name Naphtali.
    Gen 30:9 ¶ When Leah saw that she had left bearing, she took Zilpah her maid, and gave her Jacob to wife.
    Gen 30:10 And Zilpah Leah's maid bare Jacob a son.

    Psa 6:5 For in death [there is] no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
    Eze 47:22 And it shall come to pass, [that] ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among
    you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.

    Isa 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
    Jer 3:23 Truly in vain [is salvation hoped for] from the hills, [and from] the multitude of mountains: truly in the LORD our God [is] the salvation of Israel.
    Mat 2:16 ¶ Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

    Mat 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
    Mat 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.
    Mat 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.
    Mat 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

    Zec 11:13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty [pieces] of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.
    Zec 11:14 Then I cut asunder mine other staff, [even] Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
    Zec 11:15 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Take unto thee yet the instruments of a foolish shepherd.
    Zec 11:16 For, lo, I will raise up a shepherd in the land, [which] shall not visit those that be cut off, neither shall seek the young one, nor heal that that is broken, nor feed that that standeth still: but he shall eat the flesh of the fat, and tear their claws in pieces.
    Zec 11:17 Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword [shall be] upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

    charity

    #33586
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charity ,
    Would you judge Nehemiah to have not followed the ways of God?
    I would not.
    He is a type of faith, repentance and restoration.

    #33587
    charity
    Participant

    You may be able to help me Nick?

    Where can we find God himself giving instructions To Nehemiah?

    As he did with the other prophets!

    He seems to be working against the convent of the sure mercies of David.
    The kingdom that Christ had to reestablish;
    Nehemiah the King of Babylon’s cup bearer. Serving his king ripping scalps of people
    With authority to put to death if they did not obey.
    Where by if mercy had been a Law so would David had to enforce penalty; yet mercy is just as it sounds; and was not made a Law
    Nehemiah invested in the wrong statues and judgments.
    Even those that were not Israel were able to receive.

    God bless

    charity

    #33591
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,
    Are there any other books or esteemed men of God whose words and works you find fault with?

    #33594
    charity
    Participant

    Nick

    Having only Nehemiah and Ezra at question Mark at this time.

    I agree with the Book of Enoch; Apostate generation rising before the descending of Christ.
    In general I seek positively not looking to tear down; That sometimes magnifying to the eyes when I find Hate working its way through the creation void of love.

    charity

    #33595
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,
    I think faith works best sitting at the feet of God's approved teachers and absorbing all the wisdom God has given them rather than standing apart and fault finding.

    #33598
    charity
    Participant

    Charity

    To sit at the feet of God is Good Nick no other way

    Why did they do these things from a book and not Gods feet?

    That’s where it all go’s wrong with interpretations; Why they enforce the sinners Law on Gods people?

    Neh 8:14 And they found written in the law which the LORD had commanded by Moses, that the children of Israel should dwell in booths in the feast of the seventh month:

    Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier [matters] of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, [that] observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
    Mat 23:4
    For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay [them] on men's shoulders; but they [themselves] will not move them with one of their fingers.

    It Makes me sad to think what these people suffered; and children and wives cast out.

    charity

    #33600
    charity
    Participant

    Nick
    The prophets and fathers worked from the wisdom from within,
    Except Nehemish worked from the book, being what I wished to point out more than anything in this!

    Jer 8:8 ¶ How do ye say, We [are] wise, and the law of the LORD [is] with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he [it]; the pen of the scribes [is] in vain.

    Jer 8:9 The wise [men] are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom [is] in them?

    Charity

    #33601
    charity
    Participant

    Jer 8:8 ¶ How do ye say, We [are] wise, and the law of the LORD [is] with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he [it]; the pen of the scribes [is] in vain.

    The pen of the scribes, Is this as the Book of Nehemiah and Ezra with out wisdom ?Vain?

    charity

    #33602
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,
    All worked in the anointing of God's Spirit.

    #33604
    charity
    Participant

    Hi N
    Yes all is clear that what took place was appointed and allowed by God; even the books that have been placed in the Bible; my faith is secure in this.

    I see that the people shall wonder one day how the Man of lawlessness entered into the sanctuary of God and set himself up as God; specking proudly; and at this time we are to move him out of the way, and no longer can he stand in the way if he has been moved for that day Christ can come for you Thessalonians 2

    charity

    #33605
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi c,
    2Thess 2
    ” 1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

    2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

    3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

    5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

    6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

    8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

    9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

    14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

    16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

    17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.”

    We do not remove him.

    #33608
    charity
    Participant

    hi N

    Renewed Mind Love that passeth knowledge actually that’s another commandment to put on the mind of God; tunning the ears towards the heavenly laws; there’s so many? I think its void in the ears of lawless men!

    The mystery of Inquity doth already work; move it!

    6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

    charity

    #33626
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (charity @ Dec. 04 2006,04:12)
    hi N

    Renewed Mind Love that passeth knowledge actually that’s another commandment to put on the mind of God; tunning the ears towards the heavenly laws; there’s so many? I think its void in the ears of lawless men!

    The mystery of Inquity doth already work; move it!

    6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

    7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

    charity


    Hi C,
    We cannot put on the mind of God so we cannot be commanded to do so.
    God builds.
    It is the work of God not our own.
    God gives those in Christ the mind of Christ if they feed on the bread of life that gives them life eternal.
    Thus we are transformed by the renewing of our minds unto the mind of Christ.
    The work of God too is to write His laws on our hearts.
    What must happen happens.
    The man of iniquity will be revealed.

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