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- November 17, 2013 at 1:25 am#362185ProclaimerParticipant
Even this Catholic believes the Whore is the Roman Catholic Church. However, he still believes that the RCC is the one true Church, but that a false Vatican 2.0 is what the Apocalypse is talking about.
He can't admit that it is the Vatican even though he shows clear symbols in the Apocalypse with the RCC.
November 17, 2013 at 11:09 am#362199WakeupParticipantQuote (t8 @ Feb. 27 2013,20:11) I decided to make this poll as I was watching this video. Traditionally I have understood Babylon in Revelation to be The Vatican (RCC).
The guy in this video believed that too, but he believes it is the USA for the reasons he states in the video.
Matthew 4:8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him ***all the kingdoms of the world**, and the glory of them;ALL THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD BELONGS TO SATAN.
Matthew 4:9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
1.We know that the kingdoms of this world belongs to satan.
2.Come out of ther my people,so you wont receive her
plagues. Her = the world = the whore;the kingdoms of
satan. The whore = the spiritual sideof babylon; because
people worship the material,and false religions.
And there is babylon the secular.(politics,trade,commerce).Revelation 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon ***the earth***; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
THE VILE WAS POURED UPON THE EARTH,NOT JUST AMECRICA,OR THE VATICAN ROME;BUT UPON THE EARTH.
3.I am not of this **world** as you are not of this **world**
4.Babylon will be destroyed:
Revelation 16:19 And the great city was divided into
three parts, and ***the cities of the nations fell***: ***and great Babylon*** came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS IS NOT JUST AMERICA OR THE VATICAN. BUT THE WORLD.
Revelation 16:20 And ***every island fled away***, and the mountains were not found.
NOT ONLY AMERICA'S ISLANDS,BUT EVERY ISLAND.
Revelation 16:21 And there fell **upon men** a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.
MEN= *ALL* MEN WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST.
wakeup.
November 17, 2013 at 11:47 pm#362232WakeupParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 17 2013,11:25) Even this Catholic believes the Whore is the Roman Catholic Church. However, he still believes that the RCC is the one true Church, but that a false Vatican 2.0 is what the Apocalypse is talking about. He can't admit that it is the Vatican even though he shows clear symbols in the Apocalypse with the RCC.
The world was not on the list
therefore I could not make a vote.wakeup.
November 17, 2013 at 11:53 pm#362234ProclaimerParticipantIf the world was the Harlot, then how come the whole world is made drunk on the wine of this harlot? Your interpretation means the world is drunk on the world. What is the point of saying that?
November 18, 2013 at 12:38 am#362236terrariccaParticipantthe harlot is Satan ,if you like it or not
November 18, 2013 at 7:51 am#362246WakeupParticipantQuote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2013,09:53) If the world was the Harlot, then how come the whole world is made drunk on the wine of this harlot? Your interpretation means the world is drunk on the world. What is the point of saying that?
The Holy jerusalem in heaven is *the city of God*,
and the angels are the citizens thereof.
They worship God, and his giftS of the holy spirit.Babylon the great is on earth and is *the city of satan*,
and the people are the citizens thereof.
They dont worship God, but worship satan, BECAUSE of his material gifts.
He also tempted jesus once;with his great gifts.1.Babylon the material world.
2.Babylon the spiritual,what people worship in their hearts.All are *IN* babylon the material; but not all are *OF* babylon the spiritual.
Come out of her MY people. **Come out of her spiritually**.
We can not come out of her physically.We are all IN this world but not all OF this world spiritually.The whore is the spiritual side of babylon.
The people worship all her goods instead of worshipping God.
She is tempting the people to go for all her goods,and delicacies, luxuries,and pleasure and fun.She is that great spiritual city where all the people dwell in
accept the God fearing. For they spiritually dwell in God's city
which is Zion/Holy jerusalem.They dont lust for her gifts.The 7th head is babylon the secular,kingdom.
The whore is the spiritual woman sitting on the kingdom.
She is the temptress. The people love her goods more: rather than God's gifts,which is treasures in heaven that dont perish.People worship the material and also false gods to get the material blessings.
The fruits of satan,the king of babylon,the assyrian,the destroyer.
*********Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
BABYLON THE MATERIAL IS FALLEN, AND WITH IT THE
MATERIAL GIFTS. CITIES OF THE NATIONS ARE NO MORE.(REV16:19).ALL HER DELICACIES ARE NO MORE.Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the **kings of the earth** have **committed fornication with her**, and **the merchants of the earth** are waxed rich through the abundance of **her delicacies**.
SHE IS ENTICING THE PEOPLE WITH HER DELICACIES.
SHE IS THE SPIRITUAL TEMPTRESS.SHE IS CAUSING ALL THE LUST OF THE PEOPLE.Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, **Come out of her, my people**, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
COME OUT OF HER SPRITUALLY.DONT GO FOR HER MINDSET.
Revelation 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Revelation 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
SHE HAS LED PEOPLE ASTRAY BY ALL HER DELICACIES.
SHE IS THE TEMPTRESS. ALL HER GOODS ARE THE LUST OF THE PEOPLE.Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
SHE THINKS THAT SHE CAN GO ON FOREVER TEMPTING.
Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
ALL HER RESOURCES WILL BE BURNED UP;AND SHE HAS NOTHING TO TEMPT THE PEOPLE WITH.
Revelation 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE LIVED IN LEISURE
WITH ALL HER GIFTS.Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
ALL TRADE, IMPORT EXPORT HAS STOPPED DEAD.
Revelation 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
ALL THE MATERIAL GOODS HAS STOPPED DEAD.
Revelation 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
OMPORT/EXPORT,IS DEAD.
Revelation 18:14 And the fruits that **thy soul lusted after** are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
ALL WHAT THE PEOPLE LUSTED FOR IS NO MORE.
Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
THE RICH MERCHANTS WILL WAIL THE LOUDEST.
Revelation 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
ALL THOSE DELICACIES ARE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE
Revelation 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. **And every shipmaster**, and **all the company in ships**, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
TRADE IS DEAD, ALL SHIPS STANDS STILL.
Revelation 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
THE RICH WILL HAVE GREAT SORROWS.
Revelation 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
THE OPPRESSORS OF THE POOR AND THE HUMBLE,AND THE GOD FEARING.
GOD HAS TAKEN HIS REVENGE.Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and
***shall be found no more at all***.Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, **and musicians**, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and **no craftsman**, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
NO MORE PARTIES AND FUN. NO MORE CRAFTSMAN.
NO MORE MANUFACTURE.Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
THE LIGHT OF A CANDLE(ELECTRICITY).
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
SHE CAUSED ALL THE WARS;BECAUSE OF GREED.
SHE IS SATANS WOMAN THE TEMPTRESS.wakeup.
November 18, 2013 at 3:18 pm#362250terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 18 2013,12:51) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2013,09:53) If the world was the Harlot, then how come the whole world is made drunk on the wine of this harlot? Your interpretation means the world is drunk on the world. What is the point of saying that?
The Holy jerusalem in heaven is *the city of God*,
and the angels are the citizens thereof.
They worship God, and his giftS of the holy spirit.Babylon the great is on earth and is *the city of satan*,
and the people are the citizens thereof.
They dont worship God, but worship satan, BECAUSE of his material gifts.
He also tempted jesus once;with his great gifts.1.Babylon the material world.
2.Babylon the spiritual,what people worship in their hearts.All are *IN* babylon the material; but not all are *OF* babylon the spiritual.
Come out of her MY people. **Come out of her spiritually**.
We can not come out of her physically.We are all IN this world but not all OF this world spiritually.The whore is the spiritual side of babylon.
The people worship all her goods instead of worshipping God.
She is tempting the people to go for all her goods,and delicacies, luxuries,and pleasure and fun.She is that great spiritual city where all the people dwell in
accept the God fearing. For they spiritually dwell in God's city
which is Zion/Holy jerusalem.They dont lust for her gifts.The 7th head is babylon the secular,kingdom.
The whore is the spiritual woman sitting on the kingdom.
She is the temptress. The people love her goods more: rather than God's gifts,which is treasures in heaven that dont perish.People worship the material and also false gods to get the material blessings.
The fruits of satan,the king of babylon,the assyrian,the destroyer.
*********Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
BABYLON THE MATERIAL IS FALLEN, AND WITH IT THE
MATERIAL GIFTS. CITIES OF THE NATIONS ARE NO MORE.(REV16:19).ALL HER DELICACIES ARE NO MORE.Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the **kings of the earth** have **committed fornication with her**, and **the merchants of the earth** are waxed rich through the abundance of **her delicacies**.
SHE IS ENTICING THE PEOPLE WITH HER DELICACIES.
SHE IS THE SPIRITUAL TEMPTRESS.SHE IS CAUSING ALL THE LUST OF THE PEOPLE.Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, **Come out of her, my people**, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
COME OUT OF HER SPRITUALLY.DONT GO FOR HER MINDSET.
Revelation 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Revelation 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
SHE HAS LED PEOPLE ASTRAY BY ALL HER DELICACIES.
SHE IS THE TEMPTRESS. ALL HER GOODS ARE THE LUST OF THE PEOPLE.Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
SHE THINKS THAT SHE CAN GO ON FOREVER TEMPTING.
Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
ALL HER RESOURCES WILL BE BURNED UP;AND SHE HAS NOTHING TO TEMPT THE PEOPLE WITH.
Revelation 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE LIVED IN LEISURE
WITH ALL HER GIFTS.Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
ALL TRADE, IMPORT EXPORT HAS STOPPED DEAD.
Revelation 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
ALL THE MATERIAL GOODS HAS STOPPED DEAD.
Revelation 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
OMPORT/EXPORT,IS DEAD.
Revelation 18:14 And the fruits that **thy soul lusted after** are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
ALL WHAT THE PEOPLE LUSTED FOR IS NO MORE.
Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
THE RICH MERCHANTS WILL WAIL THE LOUDEST.
Revelation 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
ALL THOSE DELICACIES ARE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE
Revelation 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. **And every shipmaster**, and **all the company in ships**, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
TRADE IS DEAD, ALL SHIPS STANDS STILL.
Revelation 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
THE RICH WILL HAVE GREAT SORROWS.
Revelation 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
THE OPPRESSORS OF THE POOR AND THE HUMBLE,AND THE GOD FEARING.
GOD HAS TAKEN HIS REVENGE.Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and
***shall be found no more at all***.Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, **and musicians**, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and **no craftsman**, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
NO MORE PARTIES AND FUN. NO MORE CRAFTSMAN.
NO MORE MANUFACTURE.Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were t
he great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.THE LIGHT OF A CANDLE(ELECTRICITY).
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
SHE CAUSED ALL THE WARS;BECAUSE OF GREED.
SHE IS SATANS WOMAN THE TEMPTRESS.wakeup.
wdoes your story takes notice of this verse ;
Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.”if not ,your story is false ,if it does tell it how
November 19, 2013 at 4:56 am#362282WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 19 2013,01:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 18 2013,12:51) Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2013,09:53) If the world was the Harlot, then how come the whole world is made drunk on the wine of this harlot? Your interpretation means the world is drunk on the world. What is the point of saying that?
The Holy jerusalem in heaven is *the city of God*,
and the angels are the citizens thereof.
They worship God, and his giftS of the holy spirit.Babylon the great is on earth and is *the city of satan*,
and the people are the citizens thereof.
They dont worship God, but worship satan, BECAUSE of his material gifts.
He also tempted jesus once;with his great gifts.1.Babylon the material world.
2.Babylon the spiritual,what people worship in their hearts.All are *IN* babylon the material; but not all are *OF* babylon the spiritual.
Come out of her MY people. **Come out of her spiritually**.
We can not come out of her physically.We are all IN this world but not all OF this world spiritually.The whore is the spiritual side of babylon.
The people worship all her goods instead of worshipping God.
She is tempting the people to go for all her goods,and delicacies, luxuries,and pleasure and fun.She is that great spiritual city where all the people dwell in
accept the God fearing. For they spiritually dwell in God's city
which is Zion/Holy jerusalem.They dont lust for her gifts.The 7th head is babylon the secular,kingdom.
The whore is the spiritual woman sitting on the kingdom.
She is the temptress. The people love her goods more: rather than God's gifts,which is treasures in heaven that dont perish.People worship the material and also false gods to get the material blessings.
The fruits of satan,the king of babylon,the assyrian,the destroyer.
*********Revelation 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
BABYLON THE MATERIAL IS FALLEN, AND WITH IT THE
MATERIAL GIFTS. CITIES OF THE NATIONS ARE NO MORE.(REV16:19).ALL HER DELICACIES ARE NO MORE.Revelation 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the **kings of the earth** have **committed fornication with her**, and **the merchants of the earth** are waxed rich through the abundance of **her delicacies**.
SHE IS ENTICING THE PEOPLE WITH HER DELICACIES.
SHE IS THE SPIRITUAL TEMPTRESS.SHE IS CAUSING ALL THE LUST OF THE PEOPLE.Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, **Come out of her, my people**, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
COME OUT OF HER SPRITUALLY.DONT GO FOR HER MINDSET.
Revelation 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
Revelation 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
SHE HAS LED PEOPLE ASTRAY BY ALL HER DELICACIES.
SHE IS THE TEMPTRESS. ALL HER GOODS ARE THE LUST OF THE PEOPLE.Revelation 18:7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
SHE THINKS THAT SHE CAN GO ON FOREVER TEMPTING.
Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
ALL HER RESOURCES WILL BE BURNED UP;AND SHE HAS NOTHING TO TEMPT THE PEOPLE WITH.
Revelation 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE LIVED IN LEISURE
WITH ALL HER GIFTS.Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
Revelation 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
ALL TRADE, IMPORT EXPORT HAS STOPPED DEAD.
Revelation 18:12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
ALL THE MATERIAL GOODS HAS STOPPED DEAD.
Revelation 18:13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men.
OMPORT/EXPORT,IS DEAD.
Revelation 18:14 And the fruits that **thy soul lusted after** are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all.
ALL WHAT THE PEOPLE LUSTED FOR IS NO MORE.
Revelation 18:15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing,
THE RICH MERCHANTS WILL WAIL THE LOUDEST.
Revelation 18:16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
ALL THOSE DELICACIES ARE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE
Revelation 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. **And every shipmaster**, and **all the company in ships**, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,
TRADE IS DEAD, ALL SHIPS STANDS STILL.
Revelation 18:18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
Revelation 18:19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.
THE RICH WILL HAVE GREAT SORROWS.
Revelation 18:20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her.
THE OPPRESSORS OF THE POOR AND THE HUMBLE,AND THE GOD FEARING.
GOD HAS TAKEN HIS REVENGE.Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and
***shall be found no more at all***.Revelation 18:22 And the voice of harpers, **and musicians**, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and **no craftsman**, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee;
NO MORE PARTIES AND FUN. NO MORE CRAFTSMAN.
NO MORE MANUFACTURE.Revelation 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
THE LIGHT OF A CANDLE(ELECTRICITY).
Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
SHE CAUSED ALL THE WARS;BECAUSE OF GREED.
SHE IS SATANS WOMAN THE TEMPTRESS.wakeup.
wdoes your story takes notice of this verse ;
Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.”if not ,your story is false ,if it does tell it how
T.Because of her delicacies;the world make war
for greed,and kill many innocent people.
The saints were killed by satan's men.
They have tortured and murdered,true christians.
Even today many christians are killed for their believe.wakeup.
November 19, 2013 at 5:16 pm#362289terrariccaParticipantW
Quote Because of her delicacies;the world make war
for greed,and kill many innocent people.
The saints were killed by satan's men.
They have tortured and murdered,true christians.
Even today many christians are killed for their believe.Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.”WHAT RELIGION OR HARLOT WAS THERE AT THE TIME OF ADAM ,ABEL,? THOSE ARE THE FIRST DEAD
November 20, 2013 at 12:23 am#362303WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Nov. 20 2013,03:16) W Quote Because of her delicacies;the world make war
for greed,and kill many innocent people.
The saints were killed by satan's men.
They have tortured and murdered,true christians.
Even today many christians are killed for their believe.Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.”WHAT RELIGION OR HARLOT WAS THERE AT THE TIME OF ADAM ,ABEL,? THOSE ARE THE FIRST DEAD
T.You are learning,but very slow to pick up things.
Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: **and I saw a woman sit upon** ***a scarlet coloured beast***, full of names of blasphemy, having
***seven heads and ten horns***.1. In the days of Adam there was no kingdom of satan yet.
2.In the old world satan has no kingdom as yet.
3. Satans first established kingdom was Egypt/the first head.
The woman started from here. Here; she started to make
the people drunk with all the material, and greed, and
power.The lust to have,for self service.
Oppressing the poor,cheating by tempering with the
scales.wakeup.
November 20, 2013 at 4:41 am#362318terrariccaParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2013,05:23) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 20 2013,03:16) W Quote Because of her delicacies;the world make war
for greed,and kill many innocent people.
The saints were killed by satan's men.
They have tortured and murdered,true christians.
Even today many christians are killed for their believe.Rev 18:24 In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints,
and of all who have been killed on the earth.”WHAT RELIGION OR HARLOT WAS THERE AT THE TIME OF ADAM ,ABEL,? THOSE ARE THE FIRST DEAD
T.You are learning,but very slow to pick up things.
Revelation 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: **and I saw a woman sit upon** ***a scarlet coloured beast***, full of names of blasphemy, having
***seven heads and ten horns***.1. In the days of Adam there was no kingdom of satan yet.
2.In the old world satan has no kingdom as yet.
3. Satans first established kingdom was Egypt/the first head.
The woman started from here. Here; she started to make
the people drunk with all the material, and greed, and
power.The lust to have,for self service.
Oppressing the poor,cheating by tempering with the
scales.wakeup.
WIt seems that your interpretation does not lined up with the scriptures,
So you want me to believe ,you instead of scriptures
I may be a slow learner but not a stupid one ,rule number one :never follow men : so say the scriptures ,
November 20, 2013 at 9:35 pm#362342ProclaimerParticipantNovember 20, 2013 at 9:59 pm#362343terrariccaParticipantt8
good point .but it is for sure good for the untrained eye and mind to understand things in their own perspective combination of one ,
November 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm#362383WakeupParticipantThis is true: things can be seen from different angles.
But can not be applied to God's Word.
There is one angle only. Have to be seen from God's perspective. Can not be left to every individual;or we have confusion. There is one truth; The Word of God is truth.
Jesus is truth,we need to see it from His perspective.
His Words will not contradict.wakeup.
November 21, 2013 at 5:00 pm#362396terrariccaParticipantI use to have a carpenter working for me on one of my projects and he could talk ,he knew all the works and how to do it it was impressive the way he could express himself ,but when it comes to really do the works he was not half as good as he could talk ,
this remind me of the words of Christ and James ; do not be a listener only but a doer ,produce the deeds of the faith you say you do have or possess ,if not you have nothing.
so it is wise to understand the true perspective of the faith in God,that as more than one face .
November 23, 2013 at 12:13 pm#362511ProclaimerParticipantI am not supporting this view, but this video says that Islam is the woman, Mystery Babylon and gives its reasons. I remain open as to the identity of Babylon aS there are well argued views for Rome, New York, Mecca, etc.
November 27, 2013 at 3:30 am#362733ProclaimerParticipantAnother video along the same lines as the last. With Mecca as the city that is destroyed in one day.
November 28, 2013 at 10:40 am#362772ProclaimerParticipantThis video makes the case that the USA is Mystery Babylon.
The following video is on the first page of this topic. It also makes the case that the USA is Mystery Babylon.
November 28, 2013 at 10:43 am#362773ProclaimerParticipantThis video makes the case that the Vatican is Mystery Babylon.
November 29, 2013 at 12:27 pm#362811ProclaimerParticipantAnd this video defends the Vatican, but says a Vatican 2 will arise and that is the false Church. While no one here will subscribe to that, but he does make a good case with the Babylonian symbols and the Vatican itself.
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