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Res,
I am being confrontational?
Have you heard what they have said to me and others over the months? I am SICK of it. Just yesterday, Wakeup said, quote “you dont know any of them kings. You are in a kingdom with no kings that you can recognise.Only the true christians that knows Christ, accepts him as king over them;and these are just a few in number.”That is a cultist, they are cultists.
Usually I IGNORE their insults and do not confront them, even after they insult me or others. but this time, they had to be told.
Will you be saying the same thing when 6 months from now, they have done something REALLY wrong to someone?
Come on, Resting. If you see someone doing wrong, why turn a blind eye when we can correct them and hopefully help them?
Or at least we can say that we TRIED.
All I have ever wanted to do on here is discuss, but they get personal, too personal.
I hear what you saying though.
I should have just ignored it as usual.
Okay lesson learnt, I will continue to ignore their insults.
Quote (2besee @ May 09 2013,21:20) Res, I am being confrontational?
Have you heard what they have said to me and others over the months? I am SICK of it. Just yesterday, Wakeup said, quote “you dont know any of them kings. You are in a kingdom with no kings that you can recognise.Only the true christians that knows Christ, accepts him as king over them;and these are just a few in number.”That is a cultist, they are cultists.
Usually I IGNORE their insults and do not confront them, even after they insult me or others. but this time, they had to be told.
Will you be saying the same thing when 6 months from now, they have done something REALLY wrong to someone?
Come on, Resting. If you see someone doing wrong, why turn a blind eye when we can correct them and hopefully help them?
Or at least we can say that we TRIED.
All I have ever wanted to do on here is discuss, but they get personal, too personal.
I hear what you saying though.
I should have just ignored it as usual.
Okay lesson learnt, I will continue to ignore their insults.
Yes, I know it is difficult.Oh for the days when everyone was so lovely when the Lord was drawing us to Himself.
The idea is for us to be as they were and things will happen.
That is the whole plan which the world the flesh and the devil wants to deter us (all) from becoming, don't you think?
Res.
I must add.
I am only responsible to the Lord for myself. Those who said we are our brothers keeper were wrong.
Res
Res,
That is true thanks .Makes me think of the kind old lady with the smiling eyes (an old church lady!)
I agree with everything you said.
My apologies Wakeup and Journey.
Quote (2besee @ May 09 2013,21:20) Res, I am being confrontational?
Have you heard what they have said to me and others over the months? I am SICK of it. Just yesterday, Wakeup said, quote “you dont know any of them kings. You are in a kingdom with no kings that you can recognise.Only the true christians that knows Christ, accepts him as king over them;and these are just a few in number.”That is a cultist, they are cultists.
Usually I IGNORE their insults and do not confront them, even after they insult me or others. but this time, they had to be told.
Will you be saying the same thing when 6 months from now, they have done something REALLY wrong to someone?
Come on, Resting. If you see someone doing wrong, why turn a blind eye when we can correct them and hopefully help them?
Or at least we can say that we TRIED.
All I have ever wanted to do on here is discuss, but they get personal, too personal.
I hear what you saying though.
I should have just ignored it as usual.
Okay lesson learnt, I will continue to ignore their insults.
2Besee.Are you really hurt by those words?
Is that why you did not answer my question?
The question was:
Can you name one saint as king on earth that is ruling over you?What I said was;that Jesus is the king we follow in heaven.
We; as the true followers,that have been feeding on his flesh.
Many dont even know what his flesh is.And what about the new temple being planned;why did you not make any comment about that? Why the silence?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 09 2013,04:28) Quote (2besee @ May 09 2013,21:20) Res, I am being confrontational?
Have you heard what they have said to me and others over the months? I am SICK of it. Just yesterday, Wakeup said, quote “you dont know any of them kings. You are in a kingdom with no kings that you can recognise.Only the true christians that knows Christ, accepts him as king over them;and these are just a few in number.”That is a cultist, they are cultists.
Usually I IGNORE their insults and do not confront them, even after they insult me or others. but this time, they had to be told.
Will you be saying the same thing when 6 months from now, they have done something REALLY wrong to someone?
Come on, Resting. If you see someone doing wrong, why turn a blind eye when we can correct them and hopefully help them?
Or at least we can say that we TRIED.
All I have ever wanted to do on here is discuss, but they get personal, too personal.
I hear what you saying though.
I should have just ignored it as usual.
Okay lesson learnt, I will continue to ignore their insults.
2Besee.Are you really hurt by those words?
Is that why you did not answer my question?
The question was:
Can you name one saint as king on earth that is ruling over you?What I said was;that Jesus is the king we follow in heaven.
We; as the true followers,that have been feeding on his flesh.
Many dont even know what his flesh is.And what about the new temple being planned;why did you not make any comment about that? Why the silence?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,(Quote)
Many dont even know what his flesh is.What is the flesh?
Peace brother.
Hi Wakeup.
You answer my question and I will answer yours.
If you are not in Babylon, then which kingdom are you in?
As for the temple rebuild, I cannot watch video because I have a slow connection.
Tell me about it, please.Ed, Resting, & 2Besse
I have not been ignoring anyone, just away working.
I love nothing better than to discuss the scriptures, but time has not allowed that for me this week. I hope to join discussions and answer all questions very soon.Quote (abe @ May 10 2013,03:44) Quote (Wakeup @ May 09 2013,04:28) Quote (2besee @ May 09 2013,21:20) Res, I am being confrontational?
Have you heard what they have said to me and others over the months? I am SICK of it. Just yesterday, Wakeup said, quote “you dont know any of them kings. You are in a kingdom with no kings that you can recognise.Only the true christians that knows Christ, accepts him as king over them;and these are just a few in number.”That is a cultist, they are cultists.
Usually I IGNORE their insults and do not confront them, even after they insult me or others. but this time, they had to be told.
Will you be saying the same thing when 6 months from now, they have done something REALLY wrong to someone?
Come on, Resting. If you see someone doing wrong, why turn a blind eye when we can correct them and hopefully help them?
Or at least we can say that we TRIED.
All I have ever wanted to do on here is discuss, but they get personal, too personal.
I hear what you saying though.
I should have just ignored it as usual.
Okay lesson learnt, I will continue to ignore their insults.
2Besee.Are you really hurt by those words?
Is that why you did not answer my question?
The question was:
Can you name one saint as king on earth that is ruling over you?What I said was;that Jesus is the king we follow in heaven.
We; as the true followers,that have been feeding on his flesh.
Many dont even know what his flesh is.And what about the new temple being planned;why did you not make any comment about that? Why the silence?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,(Quote)
Many dont even know what his flesh is.What is the flesh?
Peace brother.
Hi Abe.John 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
John 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
John 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ May 10 2013,09:01) Hi Wakeup. You answer my question and I will answer yours.
If you are not in Babylon, then which kingdom are you in?
As for the temple rebuild, I cannot watch video because I have a slow connection.
Tell me about it, please.
Hi 2Besee.We are indeed in babylon,but we are not *OF* babylon.
We as true christians should not follow the spirit of babylon.
But of Christ. Come out of her my people,so you wont receive her plagues. Be ye seperate.You should know what the spirit of babylon is.
Hollywood is one of them.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 10 2013,13:43) Quote (2besee @ May 10 2013,09:01) Hi Wakeup. You answer my question and I will answer yours.
If you are not in Babylon, then which kingdom are you in?
As for the temple rebuild, I cannot watch video because I have a slow connection.
Tell me about it, please.
Hi 2Besee.We are indeed in babylon,but we are not *OF* babylon.
We as true christians should not follow the spirit of babylon.
But of Christ. Come out of her my people,so you wont receive her plagues. Be ye seperate.You should know what the spirit of babylon is.
Hollywood is one of them.wakeup.
2Besee.The jews are making preperation to rebuild their temple.
All is ready to go,but you know what the great obstacle is.
The jews really believe that their messiah will not come,
untill his temple is build.wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ May 09 2013,10:28) Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2013,00:13) Quote (journey42 @ May 08 2013,12:00) Hi Resting, The seven heads on the first beast are the 7 major empires since the beginning.
1. Eygypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Medo-Persia
5. Grecia
6. Roman
7. Britain …current empire still in powerIT'S THIS 7TH EMPIRE WHICH WILL TURN INTO THE 8TH EMPIRE WHEN THEY REFORM AND RECEIVE POWER.
Hi Journey42,1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Medo-Persia
5. Grecian
6. Roman
7. Ottoman (deadly wound) 8. Muhammadin islam
(the deadly wound was healed)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EdThere is no doubt that the ottoman empire existed.
There is also no doubt that the British empire sprang up out of the Roman empire.
The British empire is the largest and strongest empire ever to emerge
No one has ever conquered British empire. They are still ruling and will transform.
It's the West we have to be weary of.
They are the oppressors.
They are the ones who are changing all our laws.
Hi Journey42,“think to change times and laws” (Dan 7:25)
1) It is the year 1434 according to the Muslim Chandler.
2) Muslims want their sharia law to be everywhere.“not regard the desire of women” (Dan 11:37)
3) Muslims don't regard the desire of women.
“Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god,
whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory” (Dan 11:39)Wakeup!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 12 2013,18:00) Quote (journey42 @ May 09 2013,10:28) Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2013,00:13) Quote (journey42 @ May 08 2013,12:00) Hi Resting, The seven heads on the first beast are the 7 major empires since the beginning.
1. Eygypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Medo-Persia
5. Grecia
6. Roman
7. Britain …current empire still in powerIT'S THIS 7TH EMPIRE WHICH WILL TURN INTO THE 8TH EMPIRE WHEN THEY REFORM AND RECEIVE POWER.
Hi Journey42,1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Medo-Persia
5. Grecian
6. Roman
7. Ottoman (deadly wound) 8. Muhammadin islam
(the deadly wound was healed)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EdThere is no doubt that the ottoman empire existed.
There is also no doubt that the British empire sprang up out of the Roman empire.
The British empire is the largest and strongest empire ever to emerge
No one has ever conquered British empire. They are still ruling and will transform.
It's the West we have to be weary of.
They are the oppressors.
They are the ones who are changing all our laws.
Hi Journey42,“think to change times and laws” (Dan 7:25)
1) It is the year 1434 according to the Muslim Chandler.
2) Muslims want their sharia law to be everywhere.“not regard the desire of women” (Dan 11:37)
3) Muslims don't regard the desire of women.
“Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god,
whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory” (Dan 11:39)Wakeup!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.The answer is in the scripture itself,and you have failed to see.
Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
Daniel 11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
37.NOR THE DESIRE OF WOMEN;THE ANSWER:
*NOR REGARD ANY GOD*. HE SHALL MAGNIFY HIMSELF ABOVE ALL.NO WOMEN=NO RELIGION,NOR ANY THING TO DO WITH HIS FATHERS GOD,BUT HIMSELF.38.BUT IN HIS ESTATE SHALL HE HONOUR THE GOD OF FORCES; SUCH AS GOLD,SILVER,AND PRECIOUS STONES.
THIS MEANS RICHES.HE CONSIDER HIMSELF AS GOD AND HE LOVES POWER, AND PRECIOUS THINGS.wakeup.
Ed wrote:[/quote]
Quote Hi Journey42, how do you interpret this verse? “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments,
and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but
whosoever shall teach them and do them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matt. 5:19)Hi Ed.
I'm not sure. I will discuss this scripture with my brethren tonight, because I keep seeing so many things in that scripture.
What do you make of this verse?
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
This is what I understand,…WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.
2Besse is judging me according to the law. He thinks I should repent, because I am breaking the law. But I am not putting myself under the law.
I keep seeing all over the scriptures that we are free from the law. I was never under the law in the first place..Christ was continually accused of breaking the law. The same with the apostles. The Jews always boasted of the law, but couldn't even keep it themselves.
The ordinances are also part of the law, for example circumcision. This was a must, and if you were not circumcised being a Jew, then you have broken the law.
Romans 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;Romans 2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
Romans 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
Romans 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Romans 2:26 Therefore, if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
Romans 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision doest transgress the law?
Romans 2:28 for he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
IF WE OBEY THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT, WHICH IS TO LOVE THE LORD OUR GOD WITH OUR WHOLE HEART AND SOUL AND PUT HIM FIRST, THEN WE HAVE AUTOMATICALLY PASSED THE STAGE OF THE OLD LAW AND WILL NOT BE JUDGED BY THOSE THINGS CONTAINED IN THEM.
IF WE LOVE THE LORD OUR GOD WITH OUR WHOLE HEART AND SOUL AND RECEIVE THE LIGHT FROM CHRIST WHICH IS TRUTH, THEN WE WILL OBEY HIM, AND FEED ON HIM WHICH CONTAINS ALL THE NEW COMMANDMENTS AND INSTRUCTIONS IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
IF WE DISOBEY THOSE NEW INSTRUCTIONS, THEN WE HAVE NOT PUT GOD FIRST, AND WILL BE JUDGED ACCORDING TO WHAT WE HAVE BROKEN, AND NOT ACCORDING TO THE 10 COMMANDMENTS. THIS IS THE WAY I SEE IT.IF WE WANT TO BE UNDER THE LAW, THEN WE MUST BE CAREFUL NOT TO BREAK ONE SINGLE COMMANDMENT OR WE BREAK THE WHOLE LOT. IF THE JEWS COULDN'T DO IT, AS WAS THEIR CUSTOM AND BRED INTO THEM, THEN I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT RISK. WHAT IF I TURN THE LIGHT ON, ON A SABBATH? I WILL BREAK THE LAW. WHAT IF I TURN ON THE WATER? I WILL BREAK THE LAW. WHAT A BURDEN. THE SCRIPTURES ARE PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE LAW (OLD COMMANDMENTS) WAS NOT FOR THE GENTILES, BUT FOR ISRAEL ONLY. THE GENTILES CAME IN THROUGH FAITH. NO BURDENS.
Romans 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Well we gentiles never served God according to the Law in the first place. It was only for Israel.
Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
I am not a Jew. I was never born under the law. I am not tied to the law. I am a gentile and free in Christ.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Romans 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.Romans 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2013,19:22) Yea it fits perfectly, don't it?
EdJ.It does not fit your doctrine,because the muslems worship a god called allah.
This man does not worship allah or any god but himself.
wakeup.
Quote (journey42 @ May 12 2013,22:01) This is what I understand,…WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW. 2Besse is judging me according to the law. He thinks I should repent, because I am breaking the law. But I am not putting myself under the law.
I keep seeing all over the scriptures that we are free from the law. I was never under the law in the first place.All that you are doing, Journey, is twisting scripture. Who is your Lord? Is it Jesus? You preach and teach that everyone must feed on the flesh of Christ which you say is the words of Christ. You do not even KNOW his words for if you did know his words then you would do as he says. God's ten commandments were nt done away with. They were written in stone and until heaven and earth pass away, they remain. As I said, you are free to believe whatever you want. If you want to sin and commit adultery, or covet, steal, and not love your neighbour, then that is your choice but as Jesus said know this – that sin is not only outward but inward, you sin just by thought alone. And if you think that that is too hard, then remember that it is only the overcomers – those who obeyed the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus who go on into eternal life, and I have shown you scriptures, many scriptures. You either believe God and His son or you do not.
I cannot post anymore, my computer is broken, and I have no plans to replace it.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 10 2013,15:51) 2Besee. The jews are making preperation to rebuild their temple.
All is ready to go,but you know what the great obstacle is.
The jews really believe that their messiah will not come,
untill his temple is build.wakeup.
Okay, thanks.
Quote (2besee @ May 13 2013,11:24) Quote (Wakeup @ May 10 2013,15:51) 2Besee. The jews are making preperation to rebuild their temple.
All is ready to go,but you know what the great obstacle is.
The jews really believe that their messiah will not come,
untill his temple is build.wakeup.
Okay, thanks.
2Besee.There are 10 commandments,and we can not break them,
accept the 10th commandment is made for man.The sababth is made for man;not man for the sabath.
Jesus worked on a the sabath,and they judge him by stoning.
Every person has to make their own judgement what he will do on the sabath day,as long it is for the good.sample:
Hospitals can not stop working on a sabath or any day,docters and nurses must be there 24/7.
The electricity can not be cut off on a sabath;and the water also. The ambulance can not stop working on a sabath.Dont you flush your toilet on a sabath? Do you go without lights on a sabath? They all must work on a sabath to keep the generators going.Its all for the good.
The jews did circumcise on a sabath,this is what Jesus said.Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the **sabbath** days:
Colossians 2:17 Which are a **shadow of things to come**; but the body is of Christ.
I hope your computer can be fixed; mine is still slow.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
Then do you and Journey disagree on the ten comandments?
The ten commandments are a lot deeper the more one thinks about them.
The sabbath – I do agree with you that the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath. To us it is one day of the week where we relax.
Please show Journey as I have tried to that the ten commandments are important and should be meditated on, believed and followed. I may sound harsh to her but it is for her own good.I only have the use of a computer until tomorrow when I have to give it back. I feel better without one.
Take care you all.
Quote (journey42 @ May 12 2013,20:01) Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2013,00:07) Hi Journey42, how do you interpret this verse? “Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments,
and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but
whosoever shall teach them and do them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matt. 5:19)Hi Ed.
(1)I'm not sure. I will discuss this scripture with my brethren tonight, because I keep seeing so many things in that scripture.
What do you make of this verse?
(2)Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
(3)This is what I understand,…WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW.
(4)I am not a Jew. I was never born under the law.
Hi Journey42,1) Do you not consider me to be “Your Brethren”?
2) Are you saying that the following verses (according to YOU) are now abrogated?
“By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” (1 John 5:2-3)
“I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (Jer 31:33)3) Do you disregard God's commandments then?
4) Are you now suggesting that only the Jews should follow God's laws?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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