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Quote (Wakeup @ May 01 2013,08:12) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,06:53) Quote (Wakeup @ May 01 2013,03:24) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,01:55) Quote (Wakeup @ April 30 2013,16:57) Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2013,14:52) Hi Wakeup, Yes we know that is your private interpretation of Prophecy.
God bless
Ed J
EDJ.I have toldyou.
You dont have to accept.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I compare what you say to what Scripture says.
After all that is what we are suppose to do, right?Your circle of truth seems to be drawn around a bio-chip,
yet this idea of yours is NOT found “anywhere” in Scripture!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.It is all based on the scriptures.
All can be backed up by scriptures.
I could not have made up such a wonderful picture.wakeup.
Yes, we know; it is a misunderstanding of Scripture.
Edj.You are judging me guilty without any evidence put forth.
You are not a righteous judge.
Are you working for the enemy??wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Not judging you at all, just pointing out that there is “No” bio-chip mentioned anywhere is Scripture.
The mark of the beast is “Muslim”, not a future bio-chip-implant as you claim!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,09:09) Quote (Wakeup @ May 01 2013,08:12) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,06:53) Quote (Wakeup @ May 01 2013,03:24) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,01:55) Quote (Wakeup @ April 30 2013,16:57) Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2013,14:52) Hi Wakeup, Yes we know that is your private interpretation of Prophecy.
God bless
Ed J
EDJ.I have toldyou.
You dont have to accept.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I compare what you say to what Scripture says.
After all that is what we are suppose to do, right?Your circle of truth seems to be drawn around a bio-chip,
yet this idea of yours is NOT found “anywhere” in Scripture!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.It is all based on the scriptures.
All can be backed up by scriptures.
I could not have made up such a wonderful picture.wakeup.
Yes, we know; it is a misunderstanding of Scripture.
Edj.You are judging me guilty without any evidence put forth.
You are not a righteous judge.
Are you working for the enemy??wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Not judging you at all, just pointing out that there is “No” bio-chip mentioned anywhere is Scripture.
The mark of the beast is “Muslim”, not a future bio-chip-implant as you claim!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,It is not specifically Muslim either.
The RCC of the middle ages killed up to 50 million because they worshipped the empire and its leader.
Islam is a mirror image of them.
However the problem for christianity is their own turning away from God, not Islam.
and the Jews do their share of robbing and killing as well.
The communists did it and North Korea is doing it now to their own people.
The west will also if you speak out about their sins.
Res.
Quote (Resting @ May 01 2013,10:36) However the problem for christianity is their own turning away from God, not Islam. Res.
Hi Resting,Of course I agree with you in this, but
that doesn't stop Prophecy being about islam.1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Medo-Persia
5. Greecian
6. Roman
7. Ottoman —deadly wound— 8. Muhammadin-islam“And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth,
and is of the seven (see above chart), and goeth into perdition.” (Rev 17:11)The Quranic Prophecy
“And he (the false prophet Muhammad) doeth great wonders, so that he
maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)“for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. ” (2 Cor 11:14)
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Gal 1:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,12:16) Quote (Resting @ May 01 2013,10:36) However the problem for christianity is their own turning away from God, not Islam. Res.
Hi Resting,Of course I agree with you in this, but
that doesn't stop Prophecy being about islam.1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Medo-Persia
5. Greecian
6. Roman
7. Ottoman —deadly wound— 8. Muhammadin-islam“And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth,
and is of the seven (see above chart), and goeth into perdition.” (Rev 17:11)The Quranic Prophecy
“And he (the false prophet Muhammad) doeth great wonders, so that he
maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men” (Rev 13:13)“for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. ” (2 Cor 11:14)
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Gal 1:8)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I do not agree Ed.It is the falling away of those who knew God which results in the endtimes debacle.
Your scripture does not say what you think it says–
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
It does not say one of the seven, it says the eighth head is of the seven.
Meaning the whole seven.
The ten kings are the whole of the kings of the Daniels beast, not of the Ottoman empire.
It would not cause the whole world to wonder after the beast and say who will make war with Muslims.
They will wonder when they see the ten kings united under the returned Golden head which they thought could never rise from the dead. (not a return of Neb. himself)
In any case the last empire is still Roman, which is extended to America today.
You should know that Washington is the new Rome, they said.
Res.
Resting.
I agree with most of your interpretation,but a few.
QUOTE:
It is the falling away of those who knew God which results in the endtimes debacle.*UNQUOOTE*:
THE FALLING AWAY IS THE SIGN OF THE COMING OF THE SON OF PERDITION.THE CAUSE OF THE DEBACLE IS THE EVIL EMPIRE; BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS.HER TIME HAS COME.QUOTE:
Your scripture does not say what you think it says–*UNQUOTE*:
I AGREE.QUOTE:
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.*UNQUOTE*:
I AGREE.QUOTE:
It does not say one of the seven, it says the eighth head is of the seven.Meaning the whole seven.*UNQUOTE*:
I AGREE.QUOTE:
The ten kings are the whole of the kings of the Daniels beast, not of the Ottoman empire.*UNQUOTE*:
I AGREE. EDs TEACHER WAS A PLESTINIAN MUSLEM.QUOTE:
It would not cause the whole world to wonder after the beast and say who will make war with Muslims.*UNQUOTE*:
I AGREE. Ed thinks the muslems are in charge of the world today.QUOTE:
They will wonder when they see the ten kings united under the returned Golden head which they thought could never rise from the dead. (not a return of Neb. himself)*UNQUOTE*:
DANIEL WAS THERE WITH BABYLON;KING NEB.
THEREFORE BABYLON *IS*:NOT *WAS*.
THE KING THAT WAS: WAS KING NIMROD OF HIS KINGDOM *BABEL*(NOT BABYLON).
*BABBEL* HAD ONE SYSTEM, ONE KING ,ONE RELIGION,ONE LANGUAGE, AND ONE PEOPLE.
THIS KINGDOM *WAS* AND WAS NOT IN DANIELS TIME.
IS NOW COMING AGAIN.(CALLED THE NWO).QUOTE:
In any case the last empire is still Roman, which is extended to America today.*UNQUOTE:*
I AGREE.QUOTE:
You should know that Washington is the new Rome, they said.*UNQUOTE*:
I THINK LONDINNIUM,? IS MORE LIKE IT(LONDON).Thank you Resting.
wakeup.
Quote (Resting @ May 01 2013,10:54) Wakeup, The most important view of prophecy is that which concerns us now, not in the future.
The warning of a future mark is taking away from what is happening now, and people are receiving the mark every day and can no longer hear the gospel in their hearts.
Men serve the government in killing the innocent of another country who did not attack them, for the oil, and come back home destroyed in them self because they worshiped the empire (beast).
If you go against this today, then you will be marked for revenge in the future.
You can not be just now a threat to what they are doing, because you are doing a good job in keeping the truth of now hidden, and into the future.
Res.
Resting,I agree. Amen.
Yes, there may be a literal mark of some kind IN THE FUTURE, but I also believe that there is the 'unseen', the spiritual mark, the mark on the heart, and on the mind, and sometimes fulfilled in the actions.
The word of God is sharper than a double edged sword, piercing and dividing the intentions of the soul and of the spirit and of the joints and the marrow – discerning the thoughts and the intentions of the heart.
As for who or what the beast is, I believed it to be America and their allies. I believed the image of the beast to be the Television and the Internet!! But, with the TV and the NEt I could not quite make it fit with the buying and the selling.
Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,11:09) The mark of the beast is “Muslim”, not a future bio-chip-implant as you claim! Ed, I have a bit to say about that, when I get some more time!
Quote (2besee @ May 01 2013,20:01) Quote (Resting @ May 01 2013,10:54) Wakeup, The most important view of prophecy is that which concerns us now, not in the future.
The warning of a future mark is taking away from what is happening now, and people are receiving the mark every day and can no longer hear the gospel in their hearts.
Men serve the government in killing the innocent of another country who did not attack them, for the oil, and come back home destroyed in them self because they worshiped the empire (beast).
If you go against this today, then you will be marked for revenge in the future.
You can not be just now a threat to what they are doing, because you are doing a good job in keeping the truth of now hidden, and into the future.
Res.
Resting,I agree. Amen.
Yes, there may be a literal mark of some kind IN THE FUTURE, but I also believe that there is the 'unseen', the spiritual mark, the mark on the heart, and on the mind, and sometimes fulfilled in the actions.
The word of God is sharper than a double edged sword, piercing and dividing the intentions of the soul and of the spirit and of the joints and the marrow – discerning the thoughts and the intentions of the heart.
As for who or what the beast is, I believed it to be America and their allies. I believed the image of the beast to be the Television and the Internet!! But, with the TV and the NEt I could not quite make it fit with the buying and the selling.
2Besee.Prophecy is always future; or it is no prophecy anymore.
Jesus being born of a virgin was prophecy;but not to us anymore. It is prophecy fulfilled.The mark of the beast is prophecy,and will be fulfilled soon.
Dont you like prophesies? Its a warning in advance,of what is coming.Dont you like to be warned by the authorities that an earth quake is eminent;and must leave area,soon?
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ May 01 2013,22:58) Wakeup, What are you talking about??
2Besee.Prophecy warns us what is coming,and to get prepared.
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ May 02 2013,01:27) Wakeup, You need to concentrate on NOW and ALSO on what could come. Both.
2Besee.Right now is the beginning of sorrows.
Only the beginning;this means that it will get worse.
The falling away will also get worse.
What is good to God;is bad to the world.What is Holy has become abhoring to the world.
If you are a christian worshipping God you will be seen as a terrorist,and they will lock you up or kill you.
Enemy number one are the christians that dont obey,
they are considered the trouble makers.The world leader(the fals prophet) is trying to stop wars,and
bring peace,and the christians are not compromising.
Therefore they are considered as the bad ones.When satan is finished with us christians; he also will turn against the rest,even the ones that obey him.
He wants all flesh to be no more.wakeup.
Wakeup,
At the moment, the world seems to be against Muslims. Christians seem to be doing fine. See. That is the delusion. Rev 20, Satan is released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the world Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle, their number is as the sand of the sea, and they march up over the broad earth, surrounding the camp of the saints and the beloved city (maybe Heavenly Jerusalem coming down) but fire comes down and devours them.
You will scoff at that.
Actually, I think that the Adventists believe something similar except that they believe, I think, in a coming millennium, but it being in the heaven while the earth is laid waste, for the thousand years.
I don't know that for a fact, and I am too tired to be posting,
Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,11:09) The mark of the beast is “Muslim” Ed,
The mark of the beast could be your computer!
Man was commanded not to make a graven image. Man was made on the 6th day. The number is the number of man (not a man but 'man' in the Greek) and man is part of a kingdom. Man has made his own image of his kingdom on the television and on the Internet and the number of the Internet is WWW, which in Hebrew is 666.
Another interesting thing, King Solomons annual income of Gold was 666.
1Kings 10:14 'Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold' (also in 2Chronicles 9:13)Eccl 2:4-10
I made great works. I built houses and planted vineyards for myself. I made myself gardens and parks, and planted in them all kinds of fruit trees. I made myself pools from which to water the forest of growing trees. I bought male and female slaves, and had slaves who were born in my house. I had also great possessions of herds and flocks, more than any who had been before me in Jerusalem. I also gathered for myself silver and gold and the treasure of kings and provinces. I got singers, both men and women, and many concubines, the delight of the children of man.
Quote (2besee @ May 02 2013,23:22) Wakeup, At the moment, the world seems to be against Muslims. Christians seem to be doing fine. See. That is the delusion. Rev 20, Satan is released from his prison, and will come out to deceive the nations which are at the four corners of the world Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle, their number is as the sand of the sea, and they march up over the broad earth, surrounding the camp of the saints and the beloved city (maybe Heavenly Jerusalem coming down) but fire comes down and devours them.
You will scoff at that.
Actually, I think that the Adventists believe something similar except that they believe, I think, in a coming millennium, but it being in the heaven while the earth is laid waste, for the thousand years.
I don't know that for a fact, and I am too tired to be posting,
2Besee.According to your believe;satan will be let loose just before the coming,and then put put in prison again or what?
Because he was not cast in the fire.Only the beast and the false prophet are cast in the fire.Yes,the sda believe that satan will be left alone on this broken down empty earth.
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ May 02 2013,23:41) Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2013,11:09) The mark of the beast is “Muslim” Ed,
The mark of the beast could be your computer!
Man was commanded not to make a graven image. Man was made on the 6th day. The number is the number of man (not a man but 'man' in the Greek) and man is part of a kingdom. Man has made his own image of his kingdom on the television and on the Internet and the number of the Internet is WWW, which in Hebrew is 666.
Another interesting thing, King Solomons annual income of Gold was 666.
1Kings 10:14 'Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was 666 talents of gold' (also in 2Chronicles 9:13)Eccl 2:4-10
I made great works. I built houses and planted vineyards for myself. I made myself gardens and parks, and planted in them all kinds of fruit trees. I made myself pools from which to water the forest of growing trees. I bought male and female slaves, and had slaves who were born in my house. I had also great possessions of herds and flocks, more than any who had been before me in Jerusalem. I also gathered for myself silver and gold and the treasure of kings and provinces. I got singers, both men and women, and many concubines, the delight of the children of man.
2Besee.FOR IT IS THE NUMBER OF *A MAN*.Rev.13:18.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ May 03 2013,13:52) 2Besee. FOR IT IS THE NUMBER OF *A MAN*.Rev.13:18.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
The word used in Rev 13:18 is anthropos
Quote:
- 444 ánthrōpos – man, also the generic term for “mankind”; the human race; people, including women and men (Mt 4:19, 12:12, etc.).
- 444 /ánthrōpos (“man”) answers to the Hebrew term, ̓adam – and 435 (anḗr) answers to the Hebrew term ̓ish.
- K. Wuest, There are two words in Greek which mean 'man,' anēr, which refers to a male individual of the human race, and anthrōpos, which is the racial, generic term, and which has the general idea of 'mankind'”
Unquote.
As it says, there are two words used in scripture, “anēr” which refers to an individual, and then there is anthrōpos which is the same word used in Revelation, which means “mankind” in general.
If John wanted to use “anēr” to refer to an individual, He would have used it. Instead he used the word “anthrōpos” which refers to mankind.Quote (2besee @ May 03 2013,12:27) Quote (Wakeup @ May 03 2013,13:52) 2Besee. FOR IT IS THE NUMBER OF *A MAN*.Rev.13:18.
wakeup.
Wakeup,
The word used in Rev 13:18 is anthropos
Quote:
- 444 ánthrōpos – man, also the generic term for “mankind”; the human race; people, including women and men (Mt 4:19, 12:12, etc.).
- 444 /ánthrōpos (“man”) answers to the Hebrew term, ̓adam – and 435 (anḗr) answers to the Hebrew term ̓ish.
- K. Wuest, There are two words in Greek which mean 'man,' anēr, which refers to a male individual of the human race, and anthrōpos, which is the racial, generic term, and which has the general idea of 'mankind'”
Unquote.
As it says, there are two words used in scripture, “anēr” which refers to an individual, and then there is anthrōpos which is the same word used in Revelation, which means “mankind” in general.
If John wanted to use “anēr” to refer to an individual, He would have used it. Instead he used the word “anthrōpos” which refers to mankind.
2bESEE.BUT WE ARE DEALING WITH ONE MAN HERE.
*THE FALSE PROPHET*wakeup.
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