- This topic is empty.
- Posts
Quote (journey42 @ June 24 2013,20:19) Quote (abe @ June 22 2013,07:12)
Hi AbeWakeup gave you an explanation regarding this question.
Quote He OBTAINED the PPOMISE. Do you not understand Scripture?
Or just plain DENY?
Peace…..
Wakeup explained that the promise was fulfilled in Isaac. God promised him that his children would be as the number of the sea.
Isaac was born,
then Isaac had Jacob,
then Jacob had 12 sons, who make up the 12 tribes of Israel,
and a nation made out of them.
Many sons according to the promise.
Still going on today.Do you understand this? Because I didn't see you answer Wakeup with this one.
Hi J42,Heb.11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should later receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing where he went.
9 By faith he sojourned in the land of Promise, as in a foreign land, dwelling in tents WITH Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same Promise:
10 For he looked for a city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had Promised.
12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the seashore innumerable.
13 These all died in faith, NOT having received the Promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.13 These all died in faith, NOT having received the Promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
These all died in faith, NOT having received the Promises,
(Quote)
Wakeup explained that the promise was fulfilled in Isaac.God promised him that his children would be as the number of the sea.Didn't the flesh children die?
Gal.4:25 Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother.
Jn.13:33 (Jesus)”Little children, I am with you a little while longer. You will seek Me; and as I said to the Jews, now I also say to you, 'Where I am going, you cannot come.'
Gal.4:19 (Paul)My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Christ married Holy Jerusalem. Two became One. He has to be married in order to give the Promise.
Acts2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Peace sister…..
Peace sister..
Quote (abe @ June 25 2013,17:21) Quote (journey42 @ June 24 2013,20:19) Quote (abe @ June 22 2013,07:12)
Hi AbeWakeup gave you an explanation regarding this question.
Quote He OBTAINED the PPOMISE. Do you not understand Scripture?
Or just plain DENY?
Peace…..
Wakeup explained that the promise was fulfilled in Isaac. God promised him that his children would be as the number of the sea.
Isaac was born,
then Isaac had Jacob,
then Jacob had 12 sons, who make up the 12 tribes of Israel,
and a nation made out of them.
Many sons according to the promise.
Still going on today.Do you understand this? Because I didn't see you answer Wakeup with this one.
Hi J42,Heb.11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should later receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing where he went.
9 By faith he sojourned in the land of Promise, as in a foreign land, dwelling in tents WITH Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same Promise:
10 For he looked for a city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had Promised.
12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the seashore innumerable.
13 These all died in faith, NOT having received the Promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.13 These all died in faith, NOT having received the Promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.
These all died in faith, NOT having received the Promises,
(Quote)
Wakeup explained that the promise was fulfilled in Isaac.God promised him that his children would be as the number of the sea.Didn't the flesh children die?
Gal.4:25 Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother.
Jn.13:33 (Jesus)”Little children, I am with you a little while longer. You will seek Me; and as I said to the Jews, now I also say to you, 'Where I am going, you cannot come.'
Gal.4:19 (Paul)My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Christ married Holy Jerusalem. Two became One. He has to be married in order to give the Promise.
Acts2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Peace sister…..
Peace sister..
Abe.Abraham and Sarah died without seeing the 12 tribes of israel. Isacc was also born by promise.
You shall have a son,and shalll call him Isaac.Abraham will see the promise fulfilled,when he is in the kingdom; amongst his children;that have been brought back
in the flesh,by choice. The reserved jews.We; spiritual jews will be born in spirit first.
And the jews will be after the 1000yrs.
After they also, have gone through Christ.Then all will be one. All in God,including Jesus.wakeup.
abe,June wrote:[/quote]
Quote Heb.11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should later receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing where he went.
Yes, this land of promise was ISRAEL, his inheritance. Abraham believed God that he would receive it, but he died and never entered. So this can only mean that he will get to see Israel with his very own eyes. This is what we have been trying to tell you, that during the millennium, is when this will take place. God will bring Israel (Abraham was before Israel, but the father of it) back in THE FLESH, and they shall dwell in the kingdom that will be set up on earth. Not all Israel, but only the individuals God has selectedMatthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
There will be many Israelites that will not enter. Christians also, and they will know that they have missed out, for they are survivors, still alive when all this will happen, and not dead.Quote (journey42 @ June 24 2013,23:58) Quote (abe @ June 25 2013,17:21) Quote Heb.11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should later receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing where he went.
Yes, this land of promise was ISRAEL, his inheritance. Abraham believed God that he would receive it, but he died and never entered. So this can only mean that he will get to see Israel with his very own eyes. This is what we have been trying to tell you, that during the millennium, is when this will take place. God will bring Israel (Abraham was before Israel, but the father of it) back in THE FLESH, and they shall dwell in the kingdom that will be set up on earth. Not all Israel, but only the individuals God has selectedMatthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
There will be many Israelites that will not enter. Christians also, and they will know that they have missed out, for they are survivors, still alive when all this will happen, and not dead.
Hi J42,Jn.8:52 The Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon. Abraham died, and the prophets also; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word, he will never taste of death.’ 53“Surely You are not greater than our father Abraham, who died? The prophets died too; whom do You make Yourself out to be?” 54Jesus answered, “If I glorify Myself, My glory is nothing; it is My Father who glorifies Me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God’; 55and you have not come to know Him, but I know Him; and if I say that I do not know Him, I will be a liar like you, but I do know Him and keep His word. 56“Your father Abraham rejoiced to *see* My day, and he *saw* it and was glad.”
56“Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and *was* glad.”
Lk.16:19 “Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day. 20“And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, 21and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man’s table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores. 22“Now the poor man died and was carried away by the angels to Abraham’s bosom; and the rich man also died and was buried. 23“In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. 24“And he cried out and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.’ 25“But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony. 26‘And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.’ 27“And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, that you send him to my father’s house— 28for I have five brothers—in order that he may warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29“But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30“But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’ 31“But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
30“But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them *From the Dead,* they will repent!’
they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Mk.13:30 “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.
Lk.21:32 “Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place.
Peace sister…
Abe
Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
Hebrews 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
Hebrews 7:4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2013,09:41) Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,07:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,20:34) EdJ. So you agree with this prophecy?
Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,You bet, I believe in ALL of God's Prophecies. Why,
what specifically do you want to know about it?God bless
Ed J
1.Yes EDJ; I like to know why Jesus would come with great anger,and destroy all the shepherds of *his kingdom*.
2.And why is his kingdom desolate?wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Your question is based on a misconception, he didn't, nor will he.
2) It isn't, yet another misconception.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ June 25 2013,10:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,07:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,20:34) EdJ. So you agree with this prophecy?
Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,You bet, I believe in ALL of God's Prophecies. Why,
what specifically do you want to know about it?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdHe wants to know why you claim, preach and argue that Jesus has already come when the scriptures say that he will come with vengeance and destroy all the shepherds.
This obviously has not happened because the shepherds are still carrying on with their business.
Hi Wakeup,We are the ones revealing the Lord Jesus from heaven with his mighty angels.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ June 25 2013,15:21) Ed, Why would Wakeup's interpretation be regarded as private and yours not?
Hi Journey42, Good question!Because I have been declaring Biblical Prophecy that has been “Historically fulfilled”,
and Wakeup has been declaring his private interpretation of Prophecy of what
he says is yet to be fulfilled. I hope you NOW understand the difference.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (journey42 @ June 25 2013,15:28) Ed I have a question for you.
When did Jesus exactly ascend to the Father?
Hi Journey42,Let me know if you have any further questions, as this can all be verified. (1Thess.5:21)
Jesus ascension was on the 48th day – counting from the resurrection. [8+40=48]
And “Pentecost” started on the 54th day AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION. [4+50=54]
On the morrow, after Jesus resurrection, count 50 days. (ref. Lev.23:16)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,17:34) Quote (journey42 @ June 25 2013,10:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,07:23) Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,20:34) EdJ. So you agree with this prophecy?
Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,You bet, I believe in ALL of God's Prophecies. Why,
what specifically do you want to know about it?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdHe wants to know why you claim, preach and argue that Jesus has already come when the scriptures say that he will come with vengeance and destroy all the shepherds.
This obviously has not happened because the shepherds are still carrying on with their business.
Hi Wakeup,We are the ones revealing the Lord Jesus from heaven with his mighty angels.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.The scriptures are clear:
1.The Lord will come with vengeance;this did not happen
at pantecost.2.The shepherds will be dung upon the earth;this did not happen at pantecost.
3.The Lord will roar from on high;this did not happen at pantecost.
4.The land is desolate; this can not be under the rule of Christ.
5.You are only making a fool of your self,behaving like a
juvenile.
You have no capability of proper dialogue.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,19:21) EdJ. The scriptures are clear:
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Why is there disagreement as to what they mean?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,19:21) EdJ. 1.The Lord will come with vengeance;(1A)this did not happen
at pantecost.2.The shepherds will be dung upon the earth;this did not happen at pantecost.
3.The Lord will roar from on high;this did not happen at pantecost.
4.The land is desolate; this can not be under the rule of Christ.
5.You are only making a fool of your self,behaving like a
juvenile.
(6)You have no capability of proper dialogue.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) The LORD will come with vengeance; (1A)correct
2) What shepherds?
3) The Feasts of Tabernacles begins the roaring.
4) The islamic nations are going to become desolate (by us) under Christ's rule.
5) Really, how so?
6) What are we doing then? …shooting the breeze?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,19:45) Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,19:21) EdJ. 1.The Lord will come with vengeance;(1A)this did not happen
at pantecost.2.The shepherds will be dung upon the earth;this did not happen at pantecost.
3.The Lord will roar from on high;this did not happen at pantecost.
4.The land is desolate; this can not be under the rule of Christ.
5.You are only making a fool of your self,behaving like a
juvenile.
(6)You have no capability of proper dialogue.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) The LORD will come with vengeance; (1A)correct
2) What shepherds?
3) The Feasts of Tabernacles begins the roaring.
4) The islamic nations are going to become desolate (by us) under Christ's rule.
5) Really, how so?
6) What are we doing then? …shooting the breeze?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.God was prophesying of the shepherds;
of the christian flock.
Why are you spinning it towards the muslems?
*God himself* is coming with vengeance,because the christian land is desolate.
Do you need assistance here?
Do you need help?At the moment I am having a dialogue with a brick wall.
Or with a pile of rocks.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,20:36) EDJ. (1)God was prophesying of the shepherds;
of the christian flock.
(2)Why are you spinning it towards the muslems?
(3)*God himself* is coming with vengeance,because the christian land is desolate.
(4)Do you need assistance here?
(5)Do you need help?At the moment I am having a dialogue with a brick wall.
(6)Or with a pile of rocks.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Please show why you believe this?
2) Because of Jer. 25:19-26
3) Coming to take vengeance on the Islamic empire (the eighth, and of the seventh – Ottoman)
4) Yes, Father please open Wakeup's eyes, so that he can see what I'm talking about.
5) Yes, I asked Father for help, thank you!6) “For ED shall be a witness between us that YHVH is GOD.” (Josh 22:34)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,19:39) Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,19:21) EdJ. The scriptures are clear:
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,Why is there disagreement as to what they mean?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You should ask yourself that question.
Why does EDJ disagree with what the scripture says?
I dont disagree with the scriptures;I fully agree.
The propblem is yours.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,21:10) EDJ. Why does EDJ disagree with what the scripture says?
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,I don't! What I disagree with – is what YOU say about them.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAll you have to do is change your mind one time, and that proves
that what you said was different than what Scripture actually says.
Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,20:50) Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,20:36) EDJ. (1)God was prophesying of the shepherds;
of the christian flock.
(2)Why are you spinning it towards the muslems?
(3)*God himself* is coming with vengeance,because the christian land is desolate.
(4)Do you need assistance here?
(5)Do you need help?At the moment I am having a dialogue with a brick wall.
(6)Or with a pile of rocks.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) Please show why you believe this?
2) Because of Jer. 25:19-26
3) Coming to take vengeance on the Islamic empire (the eighth, and of the seventh – Ottoman)
4) Yes, Father please open Wakeup's eyes, so that he can see what I'm talking about.
5) Yes, I asked Father for help, thank you!6) “For ED shall be a witness between us that YHVH is GOD.” (Josh 22:34)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJ.You are a false witness.
You shall not bear any false witness.1.What has God to do with the shepherds of other religions?
2. You are spinning Jer 25. towards your doctrine.
3.You are spinning it towards the muslem shepherds.
4.You desperately need the Holy spirit;for you are without form and void.
5.Pray for help so you can see;and turn your heart into flesh.
6.Ed,is a false witness;he is not concerned for the truth,but only his doctrine; he had picked up along the way during his journey.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,21:34) EDJ. You are a false witness.
6.Ed,is a false witness;he is not concerned for the truth,but only his doctrine; he had picked up along the way during his journey.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,This is NOT a very brotherly way to speak to a brother in Christ.
I have warned you once about this type of trash coming out of your mouth.Now you force me to report you foul mouth to the Moderators.
My goal is that you will listen to them and tone down
the rederick before they give you a tile.Here is the link first warning I gave to you to tone down the rederick. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 26 2013,22:13) Quote (Wakeup @ June 26 2013,21:34) EDJ. You are a false witness.
6.Ed,is a false witness;he is not concerned for the truth,but only his doctrine; he had picked up along the way during his journey.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,This is NOT a very brotherly way to speak to a brother in Christ.
I have warned you once about this type of trash coming out of your mouth.Now you force me to report you foul mouth to the Moderators.
My goal is that you will listen to them and tone down
the rederick before they give you a tile.Here is the link first warning I gave to you to tone down the rederick. (Link)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.I know that the truth hurts.
Have a cold drink, to calm you down.
What happened to Eds patience? Has he lost it?
A wounded bull can go beyond control.wakeup.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
