My view on the millenium

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  • #348336
    Ed J
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    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you are still turning your back to the “FACTS” of fulfilled Prophecy –
    in order for you to hang onto your private interpretation of prophecy hopes.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #348337
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2013,00:56)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you are still turning your back to the “FACTS” of fulfilled Prophecy –
    in order for you to hang onto your private interpretation of prophecy hopes.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    What fulfilled prophecy,old boy?

    wakeup.

    #348339
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2013,03:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2013,00:56)
    Hi Wakeup,

    I see you are still turning your back to the “FACTS” of fulfilled Prophecy –
    in order for you to hang onto your private interpretation of prophecy hopes.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    What fulfilled prophecy,old boy?

    wakeup.


    Exactly!

    You have been ignoring all of them!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #348340
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 20 2013,00:26)

    Quote (abe @ June 20 2013,13:16)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 19 2013,15:14)

    Quote (abe @ June 20 2013,07:52)

    Quote (journey42 @ June 18 2013,17:47)
    Hi Abe,

    Rom.8:14   For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”

    23And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for [our] adoption as sons, the redemption of our body.

    We are waiting for our adoption.  It will be finalised at the 2nd coming who is adopted and who is not.  We do not choose who Christ accepts, but walk in that same spirit as Christ that gives us hope to be chosen.

    19For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

    Yes we have the first fruits of the spirit.  That's what the scriptures say.  The gentiles who believe will be grafted into the family of Israel.  They become spiritual Israel, and the first ones to be reborn at the 2nd coming of Christ. (changed in a twinkling of an eye), whilst Israel who are the natural branches, have had their eyes covered all this time, so that the gentiles can come in.  God has orchestrated this.  He let them go on purpose, not using his spirit to draw them back now,  but will bring Israel in again when the kingdom is set up physically. He will not take all of them, only the reserved.  Abraham and Isaac will be there, and Job, and the prophets also etc, but in the flesh.


    Hi J42,

    Zech.9:9   Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

    10And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak   Peace   unto the heathen: and his dominion [shall be]   From sea [even] to sea,   and From the river [even] to the   Ends   of the earth.

    11 As for   THEE   also, by the blood of thy  covenant  I have sent  forth  thy Prisoners   Out Of   the pit wherein [is] no water.

    12Turn you to the strong hold,  ye  prisoners of Hope: even to day do I declare [that] I will render double(copy) unto thee;

    Matt.21:1    When they had approached Jerusalem and had come to Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2saying to them, “Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied [there] and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to Me. 3″If anyone says anything to you, you shall say, 'The Lord has need of them,' and immediately he will send them.” 4This took place to  FULFILL  what was spoken through the prophet:

    5″SAY TO THE DAUGHTER OF ZION, 'BEHOLD YOUR KING IS COMING TO YOU, GENTLE, AND MOUNTED ON A DONKEY, EVEN ON A COLT, THE FOAL OF A BEAST OF BURDEN.'”

    6The disciples went and did just as Jesus had instructed them, 7and brought the donkey and the colt, and laid their coats on them; and He sat on the coats. 8Most of the crowd spread their coats in the road, and others were cutting branches from the trees and spreading them in the road.

    9The crowds going ahead of Him, and those who followed, were shouting, “Hosanna to the Son of David; BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD; Hosanna in the highest!”

    10When He had entered Jerusalem, all the city was stirred, saying,  “Who is this?”  11And the crowds were saying, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee.”

    (Quote)
    He let them go on purpose, not using his spirit to draw them back now,

    Heb.6:13   For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, 14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
    15  And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.

    And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.

    Peace sister…..


    Abe.

    NOTICE;ZECH. IS A PROPHECY BEFORE CHRIST:

    Zech.9:9   Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.UNQOUTE.

    **THE ABOVE PROPHECY IS FULFILLED**:

    10And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak   Peace   unto the heathen: and his dominion [shall be]   From sea [even] to sea,   and From the river [even] to the   Ends   of the earth.UNQUOTE:

    **THE ABOVE PROPHECY IS FUTURE**:

    QUOTE:
    11 As for   THEE   also, by the blood of thy  covenant  I have sent  forth  thy Prisoners   Out Of   the pit wherein [is] no water.

    12Turn you to the strong hold,  ye  prisoners of Hope: even to day do I declare [that] I will render double(copy) unto thee;UNQUOTE:

    **THE PROPHECY ABOVE IS FUTURE**.

    Matt.21:1    When they had approached Jerusalem and had come to Bethphage, at the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2saying to them, “Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied [there] and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to Me. 3″If anyone says anything to you, you shall say, 'The Lord has need of them,' and immediately he will send them.” 4This took place to  FULFILL  what was spoken through the prophet:UNQUOTE:

    **PROPHECY ABOVE IS FULFILLED**.

    QUOTE:
    5″SAY TO THE DAUGHTER OF ZION, 'BEHOLD YOUR KING IS COMING TO YOU, GENTLE, AND MOUNTED ON A DONKEY, EVEN ON A COLT, THE FOAL OF A BEAST OF BURDEN.'”UNQUOTE:

    **PROPHECY ABOVE IS FULFILLED**.

    QUOTE:
    6The disciples went and did just as Jesus had instructed them, 7and brought the donkey and the colt, and laid their coats on them; and He sat on the coats. 8Most of the crowd spread their coats in the road, and others were cutting branches from the trees and spreading them in the road.

    9The crowds going ahead of Him, and those who followed, were shouting, “Hosanna to the Son of David; BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD; Hosanna in the highest!”UNQUOTE:

    **SCRIPTURES ABOVE ARE PAST HAPPENINGS**.

    QUOTE:
    10When He had entered Jerusalem, all the city was stirred, saying,  “Who is this?”  11And the crowds were saying, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee.”
    UNQUOTE:

    **SCRIPTURE ABOVE HAS ALSO HAPPENED**.

    QUOTE:
    Heb.6:13   For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by
    no greater, he sware by himself, 14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
    15  And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.UNQUOTE:

    And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.UNQUOTE:

    **THIS PROMISE WAS FULFILLED,WHEN ISAAC WAS BORN.
    AND WE ALSO GO BY ISAAC**.
    **WE; TRUE BELIEVERS WILL BE BORN BY PROMISE ALSO**.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    QUOTE:
    Heb.6:13   For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, 14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
    15  And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.

    And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.

    **THIS PROMISE WAS FULFILLED,WHEN ISAAC WAS BORN.
    AND WE ALSO GO BY ISAAC**.
    **WE; TRUE BELIEVERS WILL BE BORN BY PROMISE ALSO**

    Heb.11:8   By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should later receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing where he went.
    9 By faith he sojourned in the land of    Promise,    as in a foreign land, dwelling in tents   WITH   Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the   same  Promise:
    10 For he looked for a city which has foundations, whose builder and maker is God.
    11 Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had  Promised.
    12 Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the seashore innumerable.
    13 These all died in faith,   NOT   having received the Promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

    (Quote)
    **THIS PROMISE WAS FULFILLED,WHEN ISAAC WAS BORN.
    AND WE ALSO GO BY ISAAC**.
    **WE; TRUE BELIEVERS      WILL     BE BORN BY PROMISE ALSO**

    Will  Be?

    Jesus Christ Died for Nothing?

    Peace……………..


    Abe.

    Yes Abe;*will be*.

    We will be *BORN AGAIN*; *QUICKENED*,
    We will be changed into *SPIRIT*. we will be born of the spirit,therefore we will be spirit. Who is born of the flesh, is flesh;who is born of the spirit, is spirit.
    At he resurrection ;*AS PROMISED*.

    Jesus did not die for nothing;he was the first one made spirit.
    You seem to have undersstanding regarding the millennium;
    and the reserve of the jews; good one.

    wakeup


    Hi Wakeup,

    (Quote)
    **THIS PROMISE WAS FULFILLED,WHEN ISAAC WAS BORN.
    AND WE ALSO GO BY ISAAC**.
    **WE; TRUE BELIEVERS      WILL     BE BORN BY PROMISE ALSO**

    Heb.11:13 These all died in faith,   NOT   having received the Promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

    Heb.6:13   For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, 14 Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee.
    15  And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.

    15  And so, after he had patiently endured, he   obtained   the promise.

    He   OBTAINED   the PPOMISE.

    Do you not understand Scripture?

    Or just plain DENY?

    Peace…..

    #348341
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Abe.

    You must have misunderstood.

    Abraham was promised by God that he will have a son.
    And that promise was fulfilled when Isaac was born.

    jesus also promised us true believers;that we will be born again,and made spirit. And that promise will be fulfilled soon.

    wakeup.

    #348360
    Ed J
    Participant

    I hope you don't have to wait too long. :D

    #348367
    abe
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2013,19:44)
    I hope you don't have to wait too long.  :D


    Hi Ed,

    Amen…

    Peace brother.

    #348379
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2013,14:44)
    I hope you don't have to wait too long.  :D


    Hi mister pile of rock called ED.

    Its never too long for any generation;
    because life is just like a puff of smoke.

    wakeup.

    #348527
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2013,16:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2013,14:44)
    I hope you don't have to wait too long.  :D


    Hi mister pile of rock called ED.

    Its never too long for any generation;
    because life is just like a puff of smoke.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Then do you agree that the Kingdom of Gods arrival was on “Pentecost”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #348529
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2013,16:54)
    Hi mister pile of rock called ED.

    wakeup.


    Hi Mr.Sleepwalker called “Wakeup”,

    “Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise
     from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.” (Eph 5:14)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #348535
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,16:46)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2013,16:54)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2013,14:44)
    I hope you don't have to wait too long.  :D


    Hi mister pile of rock called ED.

    Its never too long for any generation;
    because life is just like a puff of smoke.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Then do you agree that the Kingdom of Gods arrival was on “Pentecost”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    I dont agree with your caim.
    Gods will is not done on earth,untill all his enemies are put under His Sons feet. And this will only happen at the coming.

    You are purposely kidding yourself.
    **Rejecting** the prophesies; that clearly says;Jesus will come with vengeance,and destroy *all the shepherds*,because the *LAND is desolate*.You are forced to believe the opposite. *Making God a liar*.

    Your spirit has rejected *Gods spirit*,and and have followed the *spirit of the world*. How much longer will you reject,
    the truth,and go for fables?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    YOUR REJECTION OF THOSE TRUE WORDS ARE ON PURPOSE.WOE;WOE;WOE.

    wakeup.

    #348547
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,19:15)
    EDJ.

    (1)I dont agree with your caim.
    Gods will is not done on earth,untill all his enemies are put under His Sons feet. And this will only happen at the coming.

    You are purposely kidding yourself.
    (2)**Rejecting** the prophesies; that clearly says;Jesus will come with vengeance,and destroy *all the shepherds*,because the *LAND is desolate*.You are forced to believe the opposite. (3)*Making God a liar*.

    (4)Your spirit has rejected *Gods spirit*,and and have followed the *spirit of the world*.
    (5)How much longer will you reject, the truth, and go for fables?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    (6)YOUR REJECTION OF THOSE TRUE WORDS ARE  ON PURPOSE.WOE;WOE;WOE.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Spin
    2) NO, only rejecting YOUR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION OF PROPHECY.
    3) NO, the fingers are pointing at YOU my friend, not at GOD.
    4) This is far worse than what I said when I received a verbal warning from Nick Hassan by PM. (so consider this YOUR first warning)
        If this type of trash comes out of your mouth again – I will be forced to report your behavior. (I have a copy of this post on file now)
    5) Are you looking in the mirror now?
    6) NO, only rejecting YOUR spin.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #348548
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,20:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,19:15)
    EDJ.

    (1)I dont agree with your caim.
    Gods will is not done on earth,untill all his enemies are put under His Sons feet. And this will only happen at the coming.

    You are purposely kidding yourself.
    (2)**Rejecting** the prophesies; that clearly says;Jesus will come with vengeance,and destroy *all the shepherds*,because the *LAND is desolate*.You are forced to believe the opposite. (3)*Making God a liar*.

    (4)Your spirit has rejected *Gods spirit*,and and have followed the *spirit of the world*.
    (5)How much longer will you reject, the truth, and go for fables?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    (6)YOUR REJECTION OF THOSE TRUE WORDS ARE  ON PURPOSE.WOE;WOE;WOE.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Spin
    2) NO, only rejecting YOUR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION OF PROPHECY.
    3) NO, the fingers are pointing at YOU my friend, not at GOD.
    4) This is far worse than what I said when I received a verbal warning from Nick Hassan by PM. (so consider this YOUR first warning)
        If this type of trash comes out of your mouth again – I will be forced to report your behavior. (I have a copy of this post on file now)
    5) Are you looking in the mirror now?
    6) NO, only rejecting YOUR spin.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    So you agree with this prophecy?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    wakeup.

    #348591
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,20:34)
    EdJ.

    So you agree with this prophecy?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You bet, I believe in ALL of God's Prophecies. Why,
    what specifically do you want to know about it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #348611
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,07:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,20:34)
    EdJ.

    So you agree with this prophecy?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You bet, I believe in ALL of God's Prophecies. Why,
    what specifically do you want to know about it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    1.Yes EDJ; I like to know why Jesus would come with great anger,and destroy all the shepherds of *his kingdom*.
    2.And why is his kingdom desolate?

    wakeup.

    #348620
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,07:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,20:34)
    EdJ.

    So you agree with this prophecy?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You bet, I believe in ALL of God's Prophecies. Why,
    what specifically do you want to know about it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed

    He wants to know why you claim, preach and argue that Jesus has already come when the scriptures say that he will come with vengeance and destroy all the shepherds.

    This obviously has not happened because the shepherds are still carrying on with their business.

    #348632
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 25 2013,09:41)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 25 2013,07:23)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,20:34)
    EdJ.

    So you agree with this prophecy?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You bet, I believe in ALL of God's Prophecies. Why,
    what specifically do you want to know about it?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    1.Yes EDJ; I like to know why Jesus would come with great anger,and destroy all the shepherds of *his kingdom*.
    2.And why is his kingdom desolate?

    wakeup.


    EDJ.

    Yes;as Journey said:

    Why were the shepherds not slaughtered at pantecost?
    And where was the dung upon the earth at pantecost?
    You have got yourself deep into the mire.

    wakeup.

    #348663
    journey42
    Participant

    abe,June wrote:

    [/quote]
    Hi Abe

    Wakeup gave you an explanation regarding this question.

    Quote
    He   OBTAINED   the    PPOMISE.

    Do you not understand Scripture?

    Or just plain  DENY?

    Peace…..

    Wakeup explained that the promise was fulfilled in Isaac.  God promised him that his children would be as the number of the sea.  
    Isaac was born,
    then Isaac had Jacob,
    then Jacob had 12 sons, who make up the 12 tribes of Israel,
    and a nation made out of them.
    Many sons according to the promise.
    Still going on today.

    Do you understand this?  Because I didn't see you answer Wakeup with this one.

    #348664
    journey42
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 24 2013,20:30)

    Quote (Wakeup @ June 24 2013,19:15)
    EDJ.

    (1)I dont agree with your caim.
    Gods will is not done on earth,untill all his enemies are put under His Sons feet. And this will only happen at the coming.

    You are purposely kidding yourself.
    (2)**Rejecting** the prophesies; that clearly says;Jesus will come with vengeance,and destroy *all the shepherds*,because the *LAND is desolate*.You are forced to believe the opposite. (3)*Making God a liar*.

    (4)Your spirit has rejected *Gods spirit*,and and have followed the *spirit of the world*.
    (5)How much longer will you reject, the truth, and go for fables?

    Howl ye shepherds,and cry, and wallow yourselves in the ashes,for the days of your **slaughter** and of your dispersions are accomplished.

    (6)YOUR REJECTION OF THOSE TRUE WORDS ARE  ON PURPOSE.WOE;WOE;WOE.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    1) Spin
    2) NO, only rejecting YOUR PRIVATE INTERPRETATION OF PROPHECY.
    3) NO, the fingers are pointing at YOU my friend, not at GOD.
    4) This is far worse than what I said when I received a verbal warning from Nick Hassan by PM. (so consider this YOUR first warning)
        If this type of trash comes out of your mouth again – I will be forced to report your behavior. (I have a copy of this post on file now)
    5) Are you looking in the mirror now?
    6) NO, only rejecting YOUR spin.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed,

    Why would Wakeup's interpretation be regarded as private and yours not?

    #348665
    journey42
    Participant

    Ed

    I have a question for you.

    When did Jesus exactly ascend to the Father?

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