My view on the millenium

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,02:52)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,02:16) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,01:40) Quote (Devolution @ June 12 2013,15:57) Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2013,21:38) Quote (Wakeup @ June 10 2013,17:19) Quote (Ed J @ June 10 2013,17:08) Hi Wakeup, He only comes to those who are looking for him, and he brings with him the gifts of the HolySpirit that he baptizes you with. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. Not correct. The Holy spirit is the spirit of truth. That helps us to understand scripture.For this, we dont have to wait for the coming. He will be given to anyone that seeks the truth,any day. The kingdom Of God is a kingdom, with a population. Gods kingdom in heaven also has a population. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, “unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” (Heb 9:28) “he shall baptize you with the HolySpirit, and with fire” (Matt 3:11) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi EdJ, Here is the verse you quoted in it's entirety: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. What does it mean? unto salvation. Hi Devolution, Heb 9:28 means a personal “Pentecost” is available to all who look for Jesus without sin – the spirit of Christ and God's HolySpirit will come and indwell in who look for him (in spirit form). God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker. 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes. “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” wakeup. Hi Wakeup, So you agree with now than? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

I agree with my statement.
Not with your statement.

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS *NOT* THE KINGDOM AS YOU ARE TRYING TO SUGGEST.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,08:37)

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,02:52) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,02:16) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,01:40) Hi Devolution, Heb 9:28 means a personal “Pentecost” is available to all who look for Jesus without sin – the spirit of Christ and God's HolySpirit will come and indwell in who look for him (in spirit form). God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker. 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes. “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” wakeup. Hi Wakeup, So you agree with now than? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. I agree with my statement. Not with your statement. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

I agree with your statement here as well.  
Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it.

1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker.  ……………..   (Isa 64:5)
2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes.  …………….   (Heb.9:28)
“”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME””

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,09:02)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,08:37) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,02:52) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,02:16) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,01:40) Hi Devolution, Heb 9:28 means a personal “Pentecost” is available to all who look for Jesus without sin – the spirit of Christ and God's HolySpirit will come and indwell in who look for him (in spirit form). God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker. 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes. “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” wakeup. Hi Wakeup, So you agree with now than? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. I agree with my statement. Not with your statement. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, I agree with your statement here as well.   Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker.  ……………..   (Isa 64:5) 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes.  …………….   (Heb.9:28) “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

And what exactly is your meaning Ed?

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,10:14)

EDJ. And what exactly is your meaning Ed? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Could you be at tad more specific?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,11:36)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,10:14) EDJ. And what exactly is your meaning Ed? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Could you be at tad more specific? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

QUOTE:
I agree with your statement here as well.
Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it.UNQUOTE:****
————————–
You dont agree with my iterpretation of the scriptures.

Show me why? Please make corrections.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,17:30)

EDJ. QUOTE: I agree with your statement here as well.   Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it.UNQUOTE:**** ————————– You dont agree with my iterpretation of the scriptures. Show me why? Please make corrections. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

I've been showing you, but you have shut your ears.
It's best I tell you what is meant by the word meanings.
I can explain how every bible verse fits into the big picture.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,09:02)

Hi Wakeup, I agree with your statement here as well.   Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker.  ……………..   (Isa 64:5) 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes.  …………….   (Heb.9:28) “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Wakeup,

Point #1 we agree on, but I'm not sure you will agree to the associative bible ref.   (see John 14:23)
Point #2 is illustrative of Jesus bringing the kingdom to believers on “PENTECOST”!  (see Acts 1:3-5)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,17:49)

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,09:02) Hi Wakeup, I agree with your statement here as well.   Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker.  ……………..   (Isa 64:5) 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes.  …………….   (Heb.9:28) “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Wakeup, Point #1 we agree on, but I'm not sure you will agree to the associative bible ref.   (see John 14:23) Point #2 is illustrative of Jesus bringing the kingdom to believers on “PENTECOST”!  (see Acts 1:3-5) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Jesus personally never left heaven to *bring* the Holy spirit
on pantecost,but *send* the Holy spirit on pantecost.

Jesus will come again *personally* with his reward, to give to all the true believers their reward.
The true believers obviously have the Holy spirit in them,
and live by the spirit, before the coming.

No twisting of words can change that.
The possessors of the truth will be given their reward,at the coming.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,19:12)

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,17:49) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,09:02) Hi Wakeup, I agree with your statement here as well.   Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker.  ……………..   (Isa 64:5) 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes.  …………….   (Heb.9:28) “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Wakeup, Point #1 we agree on, but I'm not sure you will agree to the associative bible ref.   (see John 14:23) Point #2 is illustrative of Jesus bringing the kingdom to believers on “PENTECOST”!  (see Acts 1:3-5) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Jesus personally never left heaven to *bring* the Holy spirit on pantecost,but *send*  the Holy spirit on pantecost. Jesus will come again *personally* with his reward, to give to all the true believers their reward. The true believers obviously have the Holy spirit in them, and live by the spirit, before the coming. No twisting of words can change that. The possessors of the truth will be given their reward,at the coming. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?)
“If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,
 and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)

“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
 Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9)
Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:30)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,19:12) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,17:49) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,09:02) Hi Wakeup, I agree with your statement here as well.   Just not the meaning that you're trying to apply to it. 1. The Holy spirit will be *SEND* to every true seeker.  ……………..   (Isa 64:5) 2. The kingdom will be *WITH* Christ when he comes.  …………….   (Heb.9:28) “”FOR MY REWARD IS WITH ME”” God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi Wakeup, Point #1 we agree on, but I'm not sure you will agree to the associative bible ref.   (see John 14:23) Point #2 is illustrative of Jesus bringing the kingdom to believers on “PENTECOST”!  (see Acts 1:3-5) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Jesus personally never left heaven to *bring* the Holy spirit on pantecost,but *send*  the Holy spirit on pantecost. Jesus will come again *personally* with his reward, to give to all the true believers their reward. The true believers obviously have the Holy spirit in them, and live by the spirit, before the coming. No twisting of words can change that. The possessors of the truth will be given their reward,at the coming. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

I dont agree with you.
Jesus said i will *SEND* the comforter to you.
AS LONG AS jESUS IS ON EARTH,THE COMFORTER WILL NOT COME.

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that **I go away**: for if I go not away, ****the Comforter will not come unto you****; but if I depart, I will *send* him unto you.

GO AHEAD AND CHANGE HIS WORDS,FOR YOUR BENEFIT.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:30)

Hi Wakeup, These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost,
and correlate them into your futurism; OK?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,21:50)

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:30) Hi Wakeup, These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK?

EdJ.

One walking in the spirit;is not a spirit creature.
He is still flesh and blood breathing oxygen.

But ye are not *IN* the flesh: does not mean what you
like it to mean.

It does not say that **you are not flesh**
but *NOT IN* the flesh.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,22:44)

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,21:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:30) Hi Wakeup, These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? EdJ. One walking in the spirit;is not a spirit creature. He is still flesh and blood breathing oxygen. But ye are not *IN* the flesh: does not mean what you like it to mean. It does not say that **you are not flesh** but *NOT IN* the flesh. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Once again you “MISSED THE POINT”, I did not ask you to explain away
why John 14:23 and Romans 8:9 are specifically about “Pentecost”.

WHAT I INSTEAD ASKED was:
Please explain just exactly **how** they fit **into** YOUR belief of futurism; OK?    (<– Now please answer the question I did ask; OK?)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,23:14)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,22:44) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,21:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:30) Hi Wakeup, These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? EdJ. One walking in the spirit;is not a spirit creature. He is still flesh and blood breathing oxygen. But ye are not *IN* the flesh: does not mean what you like it to mean. It does not say that **you are not flesh** but *NOT IN* the flesh. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Once again you “MISSED THE POINT”, I did not ask you to explain away why John 14:23 and Romans 8:9 are specifically about “Pentecost”. WHAT I INSTEAD ASKED was: Please explain just exactly **how** they fit **into** YOUR belief of futurism; OK?    (<– Now please answer the question I did ask; OK?) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

Its time to open the eyes,and understand.

All waking in the spirit, will be changed into spirit at the coming. Corruption into incorruption.

From flesh into spirit;at the second coming;and not before.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,23:36)

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,23:14) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,22:44) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,21:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:30) Hi Wakeup, These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? EdJ. One walking in the spirit;is not a spirit creature. He is still flesh and blood breathing oxygen. But ye are not *IN* the flesh: does not mean what you like it to mean. It does not say that **you are not flesh** but *NOT IN* the flesh. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Once again you “MISSED THE POINT”, I did not ask you to explain away why John 14:23 and Romans 8:9 are specifically about “Pentecost”. WHAT I INSTEAD ASKED was: Please explain just exactly **how** they fit **into** YOUR belief of futurism; OK?    (<– Now please answer the question I did ask; OK?) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Its time to open the eyes,and understand. All waking in the spirit, will be changed into spirit at the coming. Corruption into incorruption. From flesh into spirit;at the second coming;and not before. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

So you don't have an understanding of those verses then, is that it?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2013,00:46)

Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,23:36) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,23:14) Quote (Wakeup @ June 13 2013,22:44) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,21:50) Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:30) Hi Wakeup, These Scripture fit into the big picture of Christ returning (in spirit form) on “Pentecost”…     (<– why do you deny this?) “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him,  and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23) “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.  Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Romans 8:9) Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Please attempt to detach them form Pentecost, and correlate them into your futurism; OK? EdJ. One walking in the spirit;is not a spirit creature. He is still flesh and blood breathing oxygen. But ye are not *IN* the flesh: does not mean what you like it to mean. It does not say that **you are not flesh** but *NOT IN* the flesh. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Once again you “MISSED THE POINT”, I did not ask you to explain away why John 14:23 and Romans 8:9 are specifically about “Pentecost”. WHAT I INSTEAD ASKED was: Please explain just exactly **how** they fit **into** YOUR belief of futurism; OK?    (<– Now please answer the question I did ask; OK?) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDJ. Its time to open the eyes,and understand. All waking in the spirit, will be changed into spirit at the coming. Corruption into incorruption. From flesh into spirit;at the second coming;and not before. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, So you don't have an understanding of those verses then, is that it? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EDJ.

My understanding is perfect.
It is yours, that is misplaced.

wakeup.

[Devolution]

EdJ,

Matthew 4:23
   And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.

The gospel of the kingdom has come, not the kingdom.

Matthew 13:11
He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

The mysteries were spoken by Christ and are now found within the gospels which have already come, the gospels are not the kingdom, but are from the kingdom of heaven, the LAW.
Feed on those living words and you will receive the Spirit of the kingdom, it is a necessity to prepare you for the actual coming kingdom.

Matthew 13:19
When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one…

The word of the kingdom, the law found in the gospels which originated in the kingdom of heaven has come down to us, not the kingdom itself.
Having that Spirit of the kingdom within you does not make you that kingdom, but provides you with that kingdoms same Spirit.
Are you a kingdom?
Or are you a temple being built.

…and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

Can Satan shoo away Gods kingdom?
NO, but he can choke that word within indivivuals.
Individuals are NOT the kingdom, but are individuals.
Satan has no power over Gods kingdom, it is the other way round!!
So Satan being able to catch away what is sown in individuals shows that  it is not a kingdom being spoken of that is amongst men YET, but that which comes from that kingdom…the Spirit…do not QUENCH that Spirit EdJ.

[Ed J]

Quote (Devolution @ June 14 2013,17:54)

EdJ, Can Satan shoo away Gods kingdom? NO

Nor can he push it off endlessly into the future – when it's here – right in front of him.

“The kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness,
 and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.” (Romans 14:17)

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2013,08:11)

Quote (Devolution @ June 14 2013,17:54) EdJ, Can Satan shoo away Gods kingdom? NO Nor can he push it off endlessly into the future – when it's here – right in front of him. “The kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness,  and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.” (Romans 14:17)

EdJ.

There is no substance to your answer.
The reward is coming with Christ.
Coming means **FUTURE.** IN ENGLISH.

wakeup

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 15 2013,12:28)

Quote (Ed J @ June 15 2013,08:11) Quote (Devolution @ June 14 2013,17:54) EdJ, Can Satan shoo away Gods kingdom? NO Nor can he push it off endlessly into the future – when it's here – right in front of him. “The kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness,  and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.” (Romans 14:17) EdJ. There is no substance to your answer. The reward is coming with Christ. Coming means  **FUTURE.** IN ENGLISH. wakeup

Do you have peace and joy in the HolySpirit or no?

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