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Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,14:30) You have lost me.. completely.
Hi Oxy,Please explain?
I have explained previously that the Bible is NOT the Word of God. There is no Scriptural basis for this belief.
This is from one of my posts on another page:
Hi Marty, I know that everyone calls the Bible the Word of God, but God Himself taught me differently. There are a few things that need to be considered.
1. There is not one Scripture in all the Bible that specifically calls the Bible the Word.
2. The Word of God was in the beginning with God and was God.
3. The Word of God was made flesh
4. THE Word of God indicates only one, the word THE being singular.
5. Jesus NEVER referred to Scrpture as the Word. He called them Scrptures, the words of God or “It is written”
6. If faith comes by hearing the Word and the Word is Scripture, why doesn't it say reading? What it actually means is that faith comes by HEARING.. in other words faith comes when the Word (Jesus) speaks to you.My personal experience is that since God gave me this understanding it has greatly enhanced the meaning of Scripture to me and also revolutionised my relationship with Jesus.
Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,14:48) I have explained previously that the Bible is NOT the Word of God. There is no Scriptural basis for this belief. This is from one of my posts on another page:
Hi Marty, I know that everyone calls the Bible the Word of God, but God Himself taught me differently. There are a few things that need to be considered.
1. There is not one Scripture in all the Bible that specifically calls the Bible the Word.
2. The Word of God was in the beginning with God and was God.
3. The Word of God was made flesh
4. THE Word of God indicates only one, the word THE being singular.
5. Jesus NEVER referred to Scrpture as the Word. He called them Scrptures, the words of God or “It is written”
6. If faith comes by hearing the Word and the Word is Scripture, why doesn't it say reading? What it actually means is that faith comes by HEARING.. in other words faith comes when the Word (Jesus) speaks to you.My personal experience is that since God gave me this understanding it has greatly enhanced the meaning of Scripture to me and also revolutionised my relationship with Jesus.
Hi Oxy,Are you saying: You don't believe “The Bible” is “The Word” of God?
Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,16:56) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,14:48) I have explained previously that the Bible is NOT the Word of God. There is no Scriptural basis for this belief. This is from one of my posts on another page:
Hi Marty, I know that everyone calls the Bible the Word of God, but God Himself taught me differently. There are a few things that need to be considered.
1. There is not one Scripture in all the Bible that specifically calls the Bible the Word.
2. The Word of God was in the beginning with God and was God.
3. The Word of God was made flesh
4. THE Word of God indicates only one, the word THE being singular.
5. Jesus NEVER referred to Scrpture as the Word. He called them Scrptures, the words of God or “It is written”
6. If faith comes by hearing the Word and the Word is Scripture, why doesn't it say reading? What it actually means is that faith comes by HEARING.. in other words faith comes when the Word (Jesus) speaks to you.My personal experience is that since God gave me this understanding it has greatly enhanced the meaning of Scripture to me and also revolutionised my relationship with Jesus.
Hi Oxy,Are you saying: You don't believe “The Bible” is “The Word” of God?
I believe all Scripture is inspired by God, but can you show me just one Scripture that says the Bible is the Word of God? My Bible tells me the Word of God became flesh.Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,15:07) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,16:56) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,14:48) I have explained previously that the Bible is NOT the Word of God. There is no Scriptural basis for this belief. This is from one of my posts on another page:
Hi Marty, I know that everyone calls the Bible the Word of God, but God Himself taught me differently. There are a few things that need to be considered.
1. There is not one Scripture in all the Bible that specifically calls the Bible the Word.
2. The Word of God was in the beginning with God and was God.
3. The Word of God was made flesh
4. THE Word of God indicates only one, the word THE being singular.
5. Jesus NEVER referred to Scrpture as the Word. He called them Scrptures, the words of God or “It is written”
6. If faith comes by hearing the Word and the Word is Scripture, why doesn't it say reading? What it actually means is that faith comes by HEARING.. in other words faith comes when the Word (Jesus) speaks to you.My personal experience is that since God gave me this understanding it has greatly enhanced the meaning of Scripture to me and also revolutionised my relationship with Jesus.
Hi Oxy,Are you saying: You don't believe “The Bible” is “The Word” of God?
I believe all Scripture is inspired by God, but can you show me just one Scripture that says the Bible is the Word of God? My Bible tells me the Word of God became flesh.
HI Oxy,Do you consider The Bible “Truth”?
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.The Bible was inspired by God, written by imperfect man and then translated by imperfect man. I have no question about the place of Scripture in our belief structure.
Thy Word is Truth. Funny that Jesus is the Word AND the TRUTH.
Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,18:04) The Bible was inspired by God, written by imperfect man and then translated by imperfect man. I have no question about the place of Scripture in our belief structure. Thy Word is Truth. Funny that Jesus is the Word AND the TRUTH.
HI Oxy,Is this verse missing from 'your Bible'?
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and “The word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs)Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,20:11) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,18:04) The Bible was inspired by God, written by imperfect man and then translated by imperfect man. I have no question about the place of Scripture in our belief structure. Thy Word is Truth. Funny that Jesus is the Word AND the TRUTH.
HI Oxy,Is this verse missing from 'your Bible'?
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and “The word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs)
John 14:24 does not say the Bible is the Word. It talks about keeping the words and saying Jesus spoke.Hi Oxy,
The Spirit of Christ is the Word.
The Lord is the Spirit.But we know his words and know they are true by what is written.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 20 2010,19:53) Hi Oxy,
The Spirit of Christ is the Word.
The Lord is the Spirit.But we know his words and know they are true by what is written.
The Lord is spirit, he is an invisible force.
The soul is also invisible and is a force as well.
Very similarBut guess what, A HUMAN BEING IS COMPOSED OF A SOUL, SPIRIT, AND BODY.
Without one of those components we are DEAD.
Without a body, we are physically dead.
Without a spirit we are spiritually dead.The Soul cannot die.
————–So when you say God is spirit, no one disagrees without you.
——–In the same light, for Jesus to be a human being he need those three components.
So when you say God was IN HIM, that attributes to the composition of his being a human being.
Fully Man in flesh, Fully God in soul and spirit.
Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,19:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,20:11) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,18:04) The Bible was inspired by God, written by imperfect man and then translated by imperfect man. I have no question about the place of Scripture in our belief structure. Thy Word is Truth. Funny that Jesus is the Word AND the TRUTH.
HI Oxy,Is this verse missing from 'your Bible'?
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and “The word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs)
John 14:24 does not say the Bible is the Word. It talks about keeping the words and saying Jesus spoke.
Hi Oxy,Psalm 68:11 The Lord gave “The word”:
great was the company of those that published it.Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2010,05:26) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,19:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,20:11) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,18:04) The Bible was inspired by God, written by imperfect man and then translated by imperfect man. I have no question about the place of Scripture in our belief structure. Thy Word is Truth. Funny that Jesus is the Word AND the TRUTH.
HI Oxy,Is this verse missing from 'your Bible'?
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and “The word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs)
John 14:24 does not say the Bible is the Word. It talks about keeping the words and saying Jesus spoke.
Hi Oxy,Psalm 68:11 The Lord gave “The word”:
great was the company of those that published it.
Read before and after a verse before publishing them.You cannot take a single verse by itself and use it to make a point.
I highly encourage everyone to post before and after the verse they would like to use.
You must understand the CONTEXT of what is being said.
If you run around posting single verses, you can make the bible say anything you want.
In Psalm 68:11The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.
The word wasn't in reference to THE WORD OF GOD.
It was literally the command.Haven't you ever heard when someone says, “When i give you the word, do …..x y z”
So when it said The Lord gave the word, it meant he gave the command.
O wow, guess what that means!!!
He gave the commandments!!!
AMG really?
Well what do we know them by?
The 10 commandments!!!
A ha!
So yea, He gave the commandments (The Law) Great are the ones who published it.
The Word of God is actual LIFE. It is not the written book.
———-
Kind of like God…We can say GOD in reference to YHVH, or we can use it as a title.
God giving the word here, is a commandment, not the ACTUAL WORD OF GOD.
Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,08:48) I have explained previously that the Bible is NOT the Word of God. There is no Scriptural basis for this belief. This is from one of my posts on another page:
Hi Marty, I know that everyone calls the Bible the Word of God, but God Himself taught me differently. There are a few things that need to be considered.
1. There is not one Scripture in all the Bible that specifically calls the Bible the Word.
2. The Word of God was in the beginning with God and was God.
3. The Word of God was made flesh
4. THE Word of God indicates only one, the word THE being singular.
5. Jesus NEVER referred to Scrpture as the Word. He called them Scrptures, the words of God or “It is written”
6. If faith comes by hearing the Word and the Word is Scripture, why doesn't it say reading? What it actually means is that faith comes by HEARING.. in other words faith comes when the Word (Jesus) speaks to you.My personal experience is that since God gave me this understanding it has greatly enhanced the meaning of Scripture to me and also revolutionised my relationship with Jesus.
I have also argued that point with Pentecostals about the Trintity.They say the Trinity is not a word within the Bible.
and im like oh really, so your telling me your going to limit your beliefs only by the words that are used by the bible?
they say yes,and i said, realy FYI the bible that we believe in does not say for you to believe in the “bible” it says for you to believe in “holy scripture”, or be changed by the “word”
so if you want to be literal with the bible at every end, here is something to think about.
anyways, the bible cannot teach without the word of God to reveal to us the truth.
I do believe in the Bible. not because we call it the bible, but because it was inspired by God.
Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2010,07:26) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,19:46) Quote (Ed J @ June 20 2010,20:11) Quote (Oxy @ June 20 2010,18:04) The Bible was inspired by God, written by imperfect man and then translated by imperfect man. I have no question about the place of Scripture in our belief structure. Thy Word is Truth. Funny that Jesus is the Word AND the TRUTH.
HI Oxy,Is this verse missing from 'your Bible'?
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and “The word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs)
John 14:24 does not say the Bible is the Word. It talks about keeping the words and saying Jesus spoke.
Hi Oxy,Psalm 68:11 The Lord gave “The word”:
great was the company of those that published it.
God gave us His Word, born of the flesh.(KJV+) He that lovethG25 meG3165 notG3361 keepethG5083 notG3756 myG3450 sayings:G3056 andG2532 theG3588 wordG3056 whichG3739 ye hearG191 isG2076 notG3756 mine,G1699 butG235 the Father'sG3962 which sentG3992 me.G3165
Translated into my understanding…
Joh 14:24 He who does not love Me does not keep My Words, [red]spoken[/red]and the Word which you hear [red]referring to Jesus[/red] is not Mine [red]of Me[/red], but the Father's who sent Me.
hmm.. that didn't work lol.. still, I'm sure you will see what I'm saying.
Can I make this suggestion… ask God what He thinks about my post before replying.Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,10:31) hmm.. that didn't work lol.. still, I'm sure you will see what I'm saying.
Can I make this suggestion… ask God what He thinks about my post before replying.
Hi Oxy,John 14:24 Proves that “The Word” is Jesus' father's!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,13:17) Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,10:31) hmm.. that didn't work lol.. still, I'm sure you will see what I'm saying.
Can I make this suggestion… ask God what He thinks about my post before replying.
Hi Oxy,John 14:24 Proves that “The Word” is Jesus' father's!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.
The Word of God and Jesus are one and the same according to Scripture, so yes, the Word is the Father's, just as Jesus is the Father's.Ref John 1 The Word was made flesh.
Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,15:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,13:17) Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,10:31) hmm.. that didn't work lol.. still, I'm sure you will see what I'm saying.
Can I make this suggestion… ask God what He thinks about my post before replying.
Hi Oxy,John 14:24 Proves that “The Word” is Jesus' father's!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.
The Word of God and Jesus are one and the same according to Scripture, so yes, the Word is the Father's, just as Jesus is the Father's.Ref John 1 The Word was made flesh.
Hi Oxy,Jesus nowhere in Scripture does is said to be “The Word”; why persist?
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and
“The Word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.Eph.4:6 One God (HolySpirit) and Father of all, who is above all,
and through all, and in you all. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)2Cor.5:19: To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their
trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us “The word“ of reconciliation. (Ephesians 4:6)
2Cor.5:19 explains John 1:14. Why do you disregard these verses, believing instead the systems of religion?Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,18:13) Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,15:42) Quote (Ed J @ June 26 2010,13:17) Quote (Oxy @ June 26 2010,10:31) hmm.. that didn't work lol.. still, I'm sure you will see what I'm saying.
Can I make this suggestion… ask God what He thinks about my post before replying.
Hi Oxy,John 14:24 Proves that “The Word” is Jesus' father's!
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.
The Word of God and Jesus are one and the same according to Scripture, so yes, the Word is the Father's, just as Jesus is the Father's.Ref John 1 The Word was made flesh.
Hi Oxy,Jesus nowhere in Scripture does is said to be “The Word”; why persist?
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and
“The Word” which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.Eph.4:6 One God (HolySpirit) and Father of all, who is above all,
and through all, and in you all. (Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35)2Cor.5:19: To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their
trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us “The word“ of reconciliation. (Ephesians 4:6)
2Cor.5:19 explains John 1:14. Why do you disregard these verses, believing instead the systems of religion?
Can you explain this to me Ed?Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and without Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
Joh 1:4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overtake it.
Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God; his name was John.
Joh 1:7 This one came as a witness, to bear witness concerning the Light, so that all might believe through him.
Joh 1:8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Joh 1:9 He was the true Light; He enlightens every man coming into the world.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world came into being through Him, and the world did not know Him.
Joh 1:11 He came to His own, and His own received Him not.
Joh 1:12 But as many as received Him, He gave to them authority to become the children of God, to those who believe on His name,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of bloods, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but were born of God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us. And we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and of truth.Hi Oxy,
It's funny that the Post above yours has the answer you ask.
I see this pattern all the time, people ask the question that had just been answered!But because you either don't understand it or refuse to believe (Click Here)
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