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Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 18 2012,05:24) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,16:57) Shalom BD, Here is what the Hebrew says: (I will re-translate it, so you can understand what is being said)…
וְהַנָּבִיא כִי־יְפֻתֶּה וְדִבֶּר דָּבָר אֲנִי יְהוָה פִּתֵּיתִי אֵת הַנָּבִיא הַהוְּא וְנָטִיתִי אֶת־יָדִי עָלָיו וְהִשְׁמַדְתִּיו מִתֹּוךְ עַמִּי יִשְׂרָאֵל Ezekiel 14:9
And the prophet that will entice something which I YHVH have enticed that prophet
to I stretch out my hand on him for the destruction of him before my people Israel.(Next is a bit more modern way of saying, the essence of, what YHVH is telling us)
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Witness (Ed) עד (Joshua 22:34)
EDGoogle translates what you wrote to this:
And the prophet that – something pretty and something I am the Lord flakes that prophet, and I tended to – by him and of the peoples of Israel and destruction
You see ED you are very ignorant and that combined with your venom makes you a dangerous person to those who maybe uninformed which is at this point the only reason I communicate with you, because not only do you not speak Hebrew you also didn't use Biblical Hebrew anyway so once again you are using a nonbiblical language “Modern Hebrew” just how you decided to take “Waw” out of the tetragrammaton replacing it with the modern “Vav”
Plus you declared here for all to see that the Authorized King James Version of the Bible was chosen by God
Ezekiel 14:9
Authorized King James Version (AKJV)
9And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
So now you decide the AKJV is useless now?
Bodhitharta.Do you understand that scripture?
wakeup.
Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 17 2012,20:51) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,16:57) (Next is a bit more modern way of saying, the essence of, what YHVH is telling us)[/color] The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Witness (Ed) עד (Joshua 22:34)
WOW!I can hardly wait to see the new revised King Ed Version of the bible.
Tim
HA Ha ha ha ha!!!Quote (Wakeup @ April 13 2012,22:59) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 18 2012,05:24) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2012,16:57) Shalom BD, Here is what the Hebrew says: (I will re-translate it, so you can understand what is being said)…
וְהַנָּבִיא כִי־יְפֻתֶּה וְדִבֶּר דָּבָר אֲנִי יְהוָה פִּתֵּיתִי אֵת הַנָּבִיא הַהוְּא וְנָטִיתִי אֶת־יָדִי עָלָיו וְהִשְׁמַדְתִּיו מִתֹּוךְ עַמִּי יִשְׂרָאֵל Ezekiel 14:9
And the prophet that will entice something which I YHVH have enticed that prophet
to I stretch out my hand on him for the destruction of him before my people Israel.(Next is a bit more modern way of saying, the essence of, what YHVH is telling us)
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Witness (Ed) עד (Joshua 22:34)
EDGoogle translates what you wrote to this:
And the prophet that – something pretty and something I am the Lord flakes that prophet, and I tended to – by him and of the peoples of Israel and destruction
You see ED you are very ignorant and that combined with your venom makes you a dangerous person to those who maybe uninformed which is at this point the only reason I communicate with you, because not only do you not speak Hebrew you also didn't use Biblical Hebrew anyway so once again you are using a nonbiblical language “Modern Hebrew” just how you decided to take “Waw” out of the tetragrammaton replacing it with the modern “Vav”
Plus you declared here for all to see that the Authorized King James Version of the Bible was chosen by God
Ezekiel 14:9
Authorized King James Version (AKJV)
9And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
So now you decide the AKJV is useless now?
Bodhitharta.Do you understand that scripture?
wakeup.
YesHi BD,
Do you agree that this is the intent the verse is trying to convey?
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Or do you claim it is one of deception?
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,08:13) Hi BD, Do you agree that this is the intent the verse is trying to convey?
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Or do you claim it is one of deception?
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Wakeup,How do you weigh in on this?
Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,08:13) Hi BD, Do you agree that this is the intent the verse is trying to convey?
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Or do you claim it is one of deception?
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te text is not talking about a false Prophet so the result is that the Prophet may become false because of his desire for grandeur but he could have very well an actual prophet. This is more in line with the scriptures:Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.Quote (bodhitharta @ April 14 2012,11:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,08:13) Hi BD, Do you agree that this is the intent the verse is trying to convey?
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Or do you claim it is one of deception?
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te text is not talking about a false Prophet so the result is that the Prophet may become false because of his desire for grandeur but he could have very well an actual prophet. This is more in line with the scriptures:Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Bravo,Glad to see you are learning!
Häl-läl Ĕl-äh-hä
Ed JQuote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,18:26) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 14 2012,11:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,08:13) Hi BD, Do you agree that this is the intent the verse is trying to convey?
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Or do you claim it is one of deception?
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te text is not talking about a false Prophet so the result is that the Prophet may become false because of his desire for grandeur but he could have very well an actual prophet. This is more in line with the scriptures:Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Bravo,Glad to see you are learning!
Häl-läl Ĕl-äh-hä
Ed J
God teaches me all the time. Allah is always in controlQuote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,02:07) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,18:26) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 14 2012,11:03) Quote (Ed J @ April 14 2012,08:13) Hi BD, Do you agree that this is the intent the verse is trying to convey?
The gullibleness of a false prophet toward grandeur will be the means of his destruction.
Or do you claim it is one of deception?
עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)
Te text is not talking about a false Prophet so the result is that the Prophet may become false because of his desire for grandeur but he could have very well an actual prophet. This is more in line with the scriptures:Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.
Bravo,Glad to see you are learning!
Häl-läl Ĕl-äh-hä
Ed J
God teaches me all the time. Allah is always in control
Hi BD, (Link)'al-Lah' is a fake god, and islam is the “kingdom of the antichrist” (Click on the link to the thread)
Daniel 11:37-39 (1)Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, (2)nor the desire of women,
(3)nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. 38 (4)But in his estate shall he
honor the God of forces: (5)and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold,
and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. 39 Thus shall he do in the most
strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory:
and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.This can only be about the 'false prophet' of islam (Rev.13:11,18)
and his FAKE god 'al-Lah'(Rev.12:3,9); wake-up BD! (Eph.5:14)1. YHVH, the God of our fathers, do they disregard.
2. The desire of women is Women have no rights.
3. YHVH, they disregard; and follow a fake god.
4. Who is the god of forces, islam of course.
5. And who do muslims build mosques to?
6. When were the prophets over with?
7. Who do they say has no Son?1 John 2:22 “He is antichrist, (7)that denieth the Father and the Son.”
Luke 16:16 “The law and (6)the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached.
Meaning: God and his Children. (Romans 8:16)(7)Romans 8:16 The [HolySpirit] itself beareth witness
with our spirit, that we are the children of God.B'shem
YHVHQuote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,03:45)
'And Exalted is the Majesty of our Lord: He has taken neither a wife nor a son.
( سورة الجن , Al-Jinn, Chapter #72, Verse #3)Quote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,07:47) How does one 'take a son'? …please explain?
You are the one saying God has a son so how would he do that? Don't we have sons by way of having a wife or partner?You agree that Mary is the Mother of Jesus and you say that God is the Father of Jesus so according to you
Jesus has God for a Father and Mary a Human for a Mother and you say these are his parents
so is God Married to Mary is God her lover how did he do this? Did He do what the angels should not have done?Once you take away the idea that God has a gender you can think a little more clearly and understand. If God is the Father of Jesus then he is even more to Adam
Quote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,09:21) You agree that Mary is the Mother of Jesus and you say that God is the Father of Jesus so according to you Jesus has God for a Father and Mary a Human for a Mother and you say these are his parents
so is God Married to Mary is God her lover how did he do this? Did He do what the angels should not have done?Once you take away the idea that God has a gender you can think a little more clearly and understand. If God is the Father of Jesus then he is even more to Adam
“The carnal mind is enmity against God:” (Rom.8:7)Quote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,09:21) Jesus has God for a Father and Mary a Human for a Mother and you say these are his parents
Hi BD,Jesus lineage explained
“Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…
Mother Father
Mary HolySpirit
50% 50%
\ /
\ /
Jesus
/ \
/ \
/ \
Son of Man Son of God
(Mark 6:3) (Luke 1:35)B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,07:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,07:22)
He has taken neither a wife nor a son.
How does one 'take a son'? …please explain?
Hi BD,Now that I answered your question, will you please answer mine?
How does one go about 'taking a son'?B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,10:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,09:21) Jesus has God for a Father and Mary a Human for a Mother and you say these are his parents
Hi BD,Jesus lineage explained
“Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…
Mother Father
Mary HolySpirit
50% 50%
\ /
\ /
Jesus
/ \
/ \
/ \
Son of Man Son of God
(Mark 6:3) (Luke 1:35)B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
“Ye (Christians) have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be
that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.” (Rom.8:15-17)Hebrews 10:28-29 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden
under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith
he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?Quote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,10:02) Quote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,07:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,07:22)
He has taken neither a wife nor a son.
How does one 'take a son'? …please explain?
Hi BD,Now that I answered your question, will you please answer mine?
How does one go about 'taking a son'?B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Yu didn't answer my question how was the portion you assigned to God given to Mary? In other words how did Mary get pregnant? Your whole theory is copletely wrong and here's why?The Messiah traces his lineage only through King Solomon (II Samuel 7:12-17; I Chronicles 22:9-10). But according to Luke 3:31, Jesus was not a descendant of Solomon, but of Solomon's half-brother Nathan. Therefore Jesus was not a descendant of King David through King Solomon, and fails this test as well.
The Messiah may not be a descendant of Jehoiakim, Jeconiah, or Shealtiel, because this royal line was cursed. (I Chronicles 3:15-17; Jeremiah 22:18,30). But according to Matthew 1:11-12 and Luke 3:27, Jesus was a descendant of Shealtiel.
Hi BD, the lineage through Salomon was indeed cursed.
That is why the lineage recorded in Mathew is Josephs.
The lineage recorded in Luke 3:23-31 is Mary's through
Nathan, (David's firstborn son) before David's infidelity.The curse: (2 Sam 12:10-11)
“The sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou
hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite
to be thy wife. 11 Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up
evil against thee out of thine own house, and I will take thy
wives before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbor,”According to Ron Wyatt, who got blood from the crucifixion site:
Jesus blood had 24 chromosomes (instead of the normal 46). One
“Y” chromosome needed to be male.; and 23 “X” chromosome from Mary.B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)Quote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,13:49) Quote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,10:02) Quote (Ed J @ April 15 2012,07:47) Quote (bodhitharta @ April 15 2012,07:22)
He has taken neither a wife nor a son.
How does one 'take a son'? …please explain?
Hi BD,Now that I answered your question, will you please answer mine?
How does one go about 'taking a son'?B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā)
עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:34)
Yu didn't answer my question
Now will you answer my question?
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