Muslim Shoe on the other foot

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    TimothyVI
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    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2012,21:31)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi BD,
    I say:
    islam certainly condones murdering anyone it considers an enemy.
    The quran also says to KILL those who reject islam and the false prophet.


    So does the bible.

    “If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.”   (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 )

    Tim

    #315787
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Oct. 12 2012,03:50)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2012,21:31)

    Ed wrote:

    Hi BD,
    I say:
    islam certainly condones murdering anyone it considers an enemy.
    The quran also says to KILL those who reject islam and the false prophet.


    So does the bible.

    “If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.”   (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 )

    Tim


    Hi Tim, yes BD doesn't know how serious worshiping the false god of islam is. Here's another one…

    Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him:
    but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Spirit (speaketh against the Holy Spirit), it
    shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. (Mt.12:32)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

    #315820
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2012,21:31)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 11 2012,21:10)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2012,15:50)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 11 2012,15:24)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2012,13:49)

    Hi BD,

    Soldiers are trained to KILL enemy combatants.


    Ssomeone being an enemy warrants their murder?


    Hi BD,

    You did it again, I say: “criminal homicide”
    and you change it to” 'murder'

    I say: “enemy combatants”
    and you say: enemy

    islam certainly condones murdering anyone it considers an enemy,
    because 'the god' of islam is Lucifer.  (See Gal.1:1 and 2Cor.11:14)

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Is criminal homicide murder?

    The Quran says fight those that fight you


    Hi BD,

    Manslaughter is murder, but
    premeditated criminal homicide is far worse.

    The quran is a 'book of fraud' – not even worth mentioning.
    The quran also says to KILL those who reject islam and the false prophet.

    KILL: as in … premeditated criminal homicide … breaking God's sixth commandment.

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Although you re not correct as it is stated in the Quran “Let there be no compulsion in religion” but I will ask you did Moses order the slaughter of all those who rejected the covenant stating:

    Exodus 32:27
    And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.

    Wha say you?

    #315908
    Ed J
    Participant

    “For the priesthood being changed, there is made
    of necessity a change also of the law.” (Heb 7:12)

    “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
    because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
    whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
    Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him?
    Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.  Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

    We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren.
    He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:
    and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. (1John 3:9-15)

    #315934
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2012,08:18)
    “For the priesthood being changed, there is made
    of necessity a change also of the law.” (Heb 7:12)

    “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
    because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
    whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
    Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him?
    Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.  Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

    We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren.
    He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer:
    and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. (1John 3:9-15)


    ED

    What does this have to do with anything?

    Matthew 12:49-50

    King James Version (KJV)

    49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

    50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

    When those with Moses decided not to follow the covenant they lost their relationship and this is what Jesus says right here. Stop making excuses God did allow Moses to order the killings infact God ordered them. If you don't understand just say I don't understand why God did that.

    #315935
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    By the way, who said that killing itself was a sin? That can't be true otherwise you would be saying that when God commanded that certain lawbreakers were to be stoned to deah that God was asking those people to sin

    #315947
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 13 2012,10:41)
    By the way, who said that killing itself was a sin?


    “premeditated criminal homicide” (Exodus 20:13)

    #315988
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2012,11:11)

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 13 2012,10:41)
    By the way, who said that killing itself was a sin?


    “premeditated criminal homicide” (Exodus 20:13)


    ED

    You can play this game all you want but the fact is God told them to purposely MURDER those that didn't accept the covenant it was premeditated and you are adding the “criminal” element to it you will never see it in the scriptures but believe me those who were getting killed felt it as a criminal act

    #315989
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    You can't justify the false prophets call to murder the innocent no matter how hard you try,
    it is still the breaking of YHVH's sixth commandment of “premeditated criminal homicide”
    no matter how you slice it. And all will have to give a personal account to YHVH.          (Rom.14:12)

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #316080
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2012,15:52)
    Hi BD,

    You can't justify the false prophets call to murder the innocent no matter how hard you try,
    it is still the breaking of YHVH's sixth commandment of “premeditated criminal homicide”
    no matter how you slice it. And all will have to give a personal account to YHVH.          (Rom.14:12)

    יהוה חאלהים (JEHOVAH GOD)
    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Moses wasn't a false prophet he ordered the premeditated murders of those who would not accept the covenant

    #926251
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    @Devolution

    I think your opening post is correct.

    Those are terrible things to say.

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