Muhammad's covenant to christians

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Indeed he was sent to be king and anointed at the Jordan.
Kings are born as princes and the prince of peace has walked among us.
There is no anointed competitor for the throne of David and you will see his kingly powers fully revealed when he returns.

[princess of the king]

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Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 19 2009,14:30) and pilate wrote a title too, and put it on the stake, and it was written, Yausha of Nazereth, the sovereign of the yehudim yohanan 19.19 So did Pilate make him a King? Was he actually called a King while he was on earth?

a king is a king is he not, whether by election or appointment, how long must a king reign in order to become a king?

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,05:15) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 19 2009,14:30) and pilate wrote a title too, and put it on the stake, and it was written, Yausha of Nazereth, the sovereign of the yehudim yohanan 19.19 So did Pilate make him a King? Was he actually called a King while he was on earth? a king is a king is he not, whether by election or appointment, how long must a king reign in order to become a king?

Will he be king when he returns or is was he king when he left?

Also, how is Jesus called prince of peace when it does not say that in the scriptures, Jesus said: he didn't come to bring peace and there is no peace right now so where do you get that from?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 20 2009,06:13)

Hi BD, Indeed he was sent to be king and anointed at the Jordan. Kings are born as princes and the prince of peace has walked among us. There is no anointed competitor for the throne of David and you will see his kingly powers fully revealed when he returns.

So he is not fully king, yet?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Absolutely.

But every king does not have to immediately enforce his rule
And you will know his rod when you enter his kingdom and find his power if you refuse.

[942767]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,14:57)

Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,07:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,05:15) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 19 2009,14:30) and pilate wrote a title too, and put it on the stake, and it was written, Yausha of Nazereth, the sovereign of the yehudim yohanan 19.19 So did Pilate make him a King? Was he actually called a King while he was on earth? a king is a king is he not, whether by election or appointment, how long must a king reign in order to become a king? Will he be king when he returns or is was he king when he left? Also, how is Jesus called prince of peace when it does not say that in the scriptures, Jesus said: he didn't come to bring peace and there is no peace right now so where do you get that from?

Hi BD:

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Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isa 9:7 Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

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1Pe 2:21 For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: 1Pe 2:22 Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: 1Pe 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that judgeth righteously:

Love in Christ,
Marty

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
There is not peace but conflict when a king proclaims his kingdom in occupied land.
The prince and god of this world has had his dominion invaded and men have a choice between the Lord of peace and the ruler of the domain of darkness.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 20 2009,15:22)

Hi BD, Absolutely. But every king does not have to immediately enforce his rule And you will know his rod when you enter his kingdom and find his power if you refuse.

So his kingdom is not in effect yet?

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,14:57) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,07:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,05:15) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 19 2009,14:30) and pilate wrote a title too, and put it on the stake, and it was written, Yausha of Nazereth, the sovereign of the yehudim yohanan 19.19 So did Pilate make him a King? Was he actually called a King while he was on earth? a king is a king is he not, whether by election or appointment, how long must a king reign in order to become a king? Will he be king when he returns or is was he king when he left? Also, how is Jesus called prince of peace when it does not say that in the scriptures, Jesus said: he didn't come to bring peace and there is no peace right now so where do you get that from? Hi BD: Quote Isa 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.   Isa 9:7   Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.   Quote 1Pe 2:21   For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:   1Pe 2:22   Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:   1Pe 2:23   Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed [himself] to him that judgeth righteously: Love in Christ, Marty

The Isaiah account is about King Hezekiah according to the scriptures:

Isaiah 1
1The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.

Why take away what God gave to someone else and apply it to Jesus?

Jesus is The Christ. His Kingdom has not come to earth yet, has it? If so where is the peace?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Would you have believed Jesus on the way to Emmaeus?

The prince of peace [Is 9] must first separate the wheat from the chaff.

Those who leave the god of the world to follow him have peace and soon they will be all who remain.

[princess of the king]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,14:57)

Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,07:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,05:15) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 19 2009,14:30) and pilate wrote a title too, and put it on the stake, and it was written, Yausha of Nazereth, the sovereign of the yehudim yohanan 19.19 So did Pilate make him a King? Was he actually called a King while he was on earth? a king is a king is he not, whether by election or appointment, how long must a king reign in order to become a king? Will he be king when he returns or is was he king when he left? Also, how is Jesus called prince of peace when it does not say that in the scriptures, Jesus said: he didn't come to bring peace and there is no peace right now so where do you get that from?

blessings BD,

this is the scripture you are referring to no?

Mat 10:34  “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword!

must a king's word, cut deep into a man's heart to be understood? what of peace, a time of peace could be from one man's heart to many heart's in different places of the world, no?

Christ peace starts in the heart, and once the peace is in the heart does not the whole body follow?

Christ throne is still, he sits at his Father's right hand.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Certainly King Jesus inflames the muslim anger.

[bodhitharta]

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Hi BD, Would you have believed Jesus on the way to Emmaeus? The prince of peace [Is 9] must first separate the wheat from the chaff. Those who leave the god of the world to follow him have peace and soon they will be all who remain.

isn't a Prince and a King 2 different positions?

[bodhitharta]

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,14:57) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 20 2009,07:27) Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 20 2009,05:15) Quote (princess of the king @ Oct. 19 2009,14:30) and pilate wrote a title too, and put it on the stake, and it was written, Yausha of Nazereth, the sovereign of the yehudim yohanan 19.19 So did Pilate make him a King? Was he actually called a King while he was on earth? a king is a king is he not, whether by election or appointment, how long must a king reign in order to become a king? Will he be king when he returns or is was he king when he left? Also, how is Jesus called prince of peace when it does not say that in the scriptures, Jesus said: he didn't come to bring peace and there is no peace right now so where do you get that from? blessings BD, this is the scripture you are referring to no? Mat 10:34  “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword! must a king's word, cut deep into a man's heart to be understood? what of peace, a time of peace could be from one man's heart to many heart's in different places of the world, no? Christ peace starts in the heart, and once the peace is in the heart does not the whole body follow? Christ throne is still, he sits at his Father's right hand.

Has peace occured in the way you describe yet? Has the weapons of destruction become tools of production yet?

Jesus said his Kingdom was not on earth and I am saying that Kingdom has not yet come.

You call Jesus Prince and King and you cannot be both at the same time can you?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2009,11:58)

Hi BD, Certainly King Jesus inflames the muslim anger.

You are misinformed Jesus being a King at some point would be wonderful if that is the will of God but the question is when and how has he become a king at this point?

If Jesus put Peter in charge what would Peter be called then?

Where is it written “King Jesus”

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Anointed as king and priest at the Jordan.
He began gathering his troops.
He will return in glory.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2009,14:32)

Hi BD, Anointed as king and priest at the Jordan. He began gathering his troops. He will return in glory.

I agree!

He will return as King of The Earth

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
His kingdom is already established men forcing themselves in. [Lk16.16].
No usurper sits on his throne, the throne of David.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 21 2009,14:49)

Hi BD, His kingdom is already established men forcing themselves in. [Lk16.16]. No usurper sits on his throne, the throne of David.

Luke 16:16 (Young's Literal Translation)

16 the law and the prophets [are] till John; since then the reign of God is proclaimed good news, and every one doth press into it;

Luke 16:16 (Darby Translation)

16 The law and the prophets [were] until John: from that time the glad tidings of the kingdom of God are announced, and every one forces his way into it.

The scripture says the Kingdom of God, not the Kingdom of Jesus.

Psalm 110
1A Psalm of David. The affirmation of Jehovah to my Lord: `Sit at My right hand, Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.'

Doesn't this show you that Jesus will assume his kingdom after his return?

This may entitle him to be a prince but not a king until he assumes rulership

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Acts 5:30-32

Now I have shown you through the scriptures that Jesus was raised to the right hand of God as a Prince and not a King and his return to earth will be to be King and on the throne of David.

The Kingdom of God belongs forever to God Alone.

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,
Compare the words of the anointed recorders and you will see the kingdom of God is also the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of Jesus.
There is one kingdom and Jesus is the appointed king under God.

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