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Quote (terraricca @ May 03 2012,06:12) Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2012,16:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,03:31) Hi KW,
Yes only the Spirit reveals the Word
Nick,You are correct that natural man does not speak the Word of God.
kTHEN all natural men are mute
it should be all carnal oriented natural men can not speak the WORDS OF GOD
T.;It is written:
1 Corinthians 2:14
King James Version (KJV)14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The natural man is the carnal man. The spiritual man is driven by the Spirit of God.
Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2012,19:14) Quote (terraricca @ May 03 2012,06:12) Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2012,16:22) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,03:31) Hi KW,
Yes only the Spirit reveals the Word
Nick,You are correct that natural man does not speak the Word of God.
kTHEN all natural men are mute
it should be all carnal oriented natural men can not speak the WORDS OF GOD
T.;It is written:
1 Corinthians 2:14
King James Version (KJV)14But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
The natural man is the carnal man. The spiritual man is driven by the Spirit of God.
Kyou still do not get it
?what will it take to make you understand
this scripture you quote
Quote (terraricca @ May 03 2012,11:17) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,17:33) Hi MB,
Should we stretch our IMAGINATIONS to accommodate our own ideas?
Nand you know ,all the ones that were present at the rising of Christ to heaven could only look as far that the clouds ,because it was the clouds that took him away from their view,
True tT;
Quote K you still do not get it
?what will it take to make you understand
this scripture you quote
Scripture makes it clear that the natural man is nonspiritual for is written:
1 Corinthians 2:15
King James Version (KJV)15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,21:15) Quote (terraricca @ May 03 2012,11:17) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,17:33) Hi MB,
Should we stretch our IMAGINATIONS to accommodate our own ideas?
Nand you know ,all the ones that were present at the rising of Christ to heaven could only look as far that the clouds ,because it was the clouds that took him away from their view,
True t
Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2012,09:35) T; Quote K you still do not get it
?what will it take to make you understand
this scripture you quote
Scripture makes it clear that the natural man is nonspiritual for is written:
1 Corinthians 2:15
King James Version (KJV)15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
Kthis verse in your quote as well like you do not understand it .
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 11 2012,05:13) Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2012,09:35) T; Quote K you still do not get it
?what will it take to make you understand
this scripture you quote
Scripture makes it clear that the natural man is nonspiritual for is written:
1 Corinthians 2:15
King James Version (KJV)15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
Kthis verse in your quote as well like you do not understand it .
T,I am speaking of patterns. The patterns are the same though the content differs.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 11 2012,06:55) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 11 2012,05:13) Quote (kerwin @ May 03 2012,09:35) T; Quote K you still do not get it
?what will it take to make you understand
this scripture you quote
Scripture makes it clear that the natural man is nonspiritual for is written:
1 Corinthians 2:15
King James Version (KJV)15But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
Kthis verse in your quote as well like you do not understand it .
T,I am speaking of patterns. The patterns are the same though the content differs.
Kyou still do not understand it
do you not see that the difference between a spiritual man and any other HIS WHAT HE HAS ACKNOWLEDGE TO BE TRUE ,?
T,
The Spiritual man is led by the Spirit.
The Spiritual body is given life by the Spirit.They are of a type in being effected by the Spirit.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 11 2012,14:50) T, The Spiritual man is led by the Spirit.
The Spiritual body is given life by the Spirit.They are of a type in being effected by the Spirit.
Kyou still do not get it ;
the spiritual man his taken action to obtain everlasting live of the one that can give it GOD,and so all his sins are forgiven.
the flesh man ;his the one that is satisfied with the life he lives ,and so do not bother looking for the offer of everlasting life from God ,and so die in his sins ,
Hi KW,
You say
“Even Moses had to go through Jesus to get to God, though unlike us he looked forward to a time to come. The body of Moses was physically caught up to heaven after Satan’s attempt to keep it on earth where its burial place would be known.”
Caught up to heaven??
Any scriptures?Nick,
Quote Jude 1:9
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)9 But when the archangel Michael contended with the devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander[a] against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”
That is the only reason I can see that there was any dispute over the body of Moses.
Jesus spoke to Moses afterwards according to his student-adherents.
Hi KW,
But we cannot add in our ideas.
We know there are two options for souls awaiting the final JudgementLk 16.19f
Perhaps that relates?
Nick,
Jesus “added” in ideas when he made his argument before the Sadducee that there is a resurrection. Since those ideas are from God then if one of the Sadducees answered Jesus with the same words you did he would be wrong. Seek God and his righteousness.
Nick,
I agree the Sheol has a place for the wicked and a place for the righteous souls. I do not believe Jesus spoke with ghosts on that mountain. I am not sure of your opinion on the manner. I do know the body of a man rests on earth and the soul descends to Sheol.
Hi KW,
Jesus spoke with the living.
God is the God of the livingEven the witch of Endor did the same with Samuel.
Quote (kerwin @ May 17 2014,03:44) Nick, Jesus “added” in ideas when he made his argument before the Sadducee that there is a resurrection. Since those ideas are from God then if one of the Sadducees answered Jesus with the same words you did he would be wrong. Seek God and his righteousness.
Hi KW,
Jesus was filled with and led by the Spirit of God.
Other men may think they are blessed like this too, but are they?Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,00:38) Hi KW,
Jesus spoke his Father's words
We cannot add to those
Nick,His people do as they see him doing for they for they follow him.
As Jesus used the hidden meaning if Scripture to reveal there is a resurrection. Not everything is clear in Scripture nor is it meant to be or God would not use parables and other forms of metaphoric speech. Those who need the truth will seek it.
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