Moses Body

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Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2012,13:09)

Jude :9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

When talking to the devil for the body and why the body? ..

william

what would have happen if the Israelite s would have put their hands on the body of Moses,?

many still practice that today,

Pierre

February 6, 2012 at 5:51 am#276132

Ed J

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Hi Happyman,

I believe “Moses' body” represents “The Law”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

February 6, 2012 at 7:42 pm#276171

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Hi Pierre, Ed J. ,
In other words your saying Satan could have used the body for his purpose instead of Jehovah. Interesting.

February 6, 2012 at 7:45 pm#276173

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Hi Pierre,
My name is Andrew

February 6, 2012 at 9:43 pm#276192

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Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 06 2012,01:09)

Jude :9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

When talking to the devil for the body and why the body? ..

Happyman,

Good question.

Why was Elijah taken up into heaven while still in his flesh?

Why did Jesus ascend to heaven while still in a flesh body?

February 6, 2012 at 11:56 pm#276225

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Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 07 2012,12:42)

Hi Pierre, Ed J. ,
In other words your saying Satan could have used the body for his purpose instead of Jehovah. Interesting.

Andrew

thanks,yes this is what I meant.and it would be idolatry at best,

look what religion does with Christ tomb (it is not even the right one )look at dome of the rock were supposedly Abraham offers his son Isaac ,this also is not the real place,so we can imagine if they would have the real thing.?

Pierre

February 7, 2012 at 5:24 pm#276356

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Hi Pierre and Kerwin,
The three that I know went to heaven Enoch, Elijah, Jesus ; and only two did not taste death. I believe their obedience and their relationship with God. But why the body ? is the 64 dollar question. Why do Catholics have a special ceremony concerning the dead.?

February 7, 2012 at 7:45 pm#276376

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Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 07 2012,22:24)

Happy-man,

I am not familiar with the Catholic ceremony but I believe Scripture speaks of a transformation from the mortal fleshly body from earth to the immortal fleshly body from heaven. In this case the later transformation of the body of Moses would result in his being returned to life.

He later had a conversation with Jesus before the later's students and they believed he had a flesh body.

It may be that God has chosen to transform the flesh of earth to the flesh of heaven instead of creating the flesh of heaven from something else. The something could be nothing as all things are possible with God.

February 7, 2012 at 7:46 pm#276378

NickHassan

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Hi KW,
Immortal fleshly?
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.

A contradiction in terms

February 7, 2012 at 7:48 pm#276379

NickHassan

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Hi KW,
Which of the three heavens did Elijah go up to?

February 7, 2012 at 10:08 pm#276410

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2012,00:48)

Hi KW,
Which of the three heavens did Elijah go up to?

Nick,

The event is recorded in 2 Kings 2:1-18. Some versions state he was taken up to heaven while others state heavens.

February 7, 2012 at 10:12 pm#276411

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Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 07 2012,22:24)

Happy-man,

He later had a conversation with Jesus before the later's students and they believed he had a flesh body.

kerwin

are starting to believe in fairy tale,

it is true whit God all is possible but from us to go to him their are rules and they are in scriptures and reveled to the true worshiper,if you do not believe his words then you are already dead.

Pierre

February 7, 2012 at 10:18 pm#276412

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2012,00:46)

Hi KW,
Immortal fleshly?
Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom.

A contradiction in terms

Nick,

What is flesh and blood?

Matthew 16:17

King James Version (KJV)

17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Galatians 1:16
To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

As for speaking of all observation in Scripture, the resurrected body bore flesh.

February 7, 2012 at 10:22 pm#276413

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Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 07 2012,22:24)

Happy-man,

He later had a conversation with Jesus before the later's students and they believed he had a flesh body.

kerwin

are starting to believe in fairy tale,

it is true whit God all is possible but from us to go to him their are rules and they are in scriptures and reveled to the true worshiper,if you do not believe his words then you are already dead.

Pierre

Pierre,

I know that what I wrote disagrees with what you have been taught but observations in scriptures also disagree with what you have been taught. I spoke of those observations.

I also speculated about why the dispute over the body of Moses.

February 7, 2012 at 10:39 pm#276416

NickHassan

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Hi KW,
No scriptures you offer say we inherit another mortal flesh body.

February 7, 2012 at 11:54 pm#276424

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Quote (thehappyman @ Feb. 07 2012,22:24)

Happy-man,

He later had a conversation with Jesus before the later's students and they believed he had a flesh body.

kerwin

are starting to believe in fairy tale,

it is true whit God all is possible but from us to go to him their are rules and they are in scriptures and reveled to the true worshiper,if you do not believe his words then you are already dead.

Pierre

Pierre,

I know that what I wrote disagrees with what you have been taught but observations in scriptures also disagree with what you have been taught. I spoke of those observations.

I also speculated about why the dispute over the body of Moses.

krewin

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observations in scriptures also disagree with what you have been taught. I spoke of those observations.

is it this ; but from us to go to him their are rules and they are in scriptures and reveled to the true worshiper,if you do not believe his words then you are already dead.

If so I will show you the scriptures ,

Pierre

February 7, 2012 at 11:57 pm#276425

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kerwin

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I also speculated about why the dispute over the body of Moses.

I only can see what I say to HM

Pierre

February 8, 2012 at 5:05 am#276455

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Hi Nick,
Their was only one example that I can recall, Moses and Elijah and Jesus talking over something in Matt 17 :1 and they were not in the flesh. but in a transformed condition. I believe you may have it. But why the fight over the body? To save it from the desecration of that which is Holy ? and Paul said he had a friend whether in the spirit or not that he went to the third heaven. I choose to believe that it was in the spirit like you said no flesh and blood can make it to heaven.

February 8, 2012 at 5:54 am#276464