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Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2010,08:11) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2010,22:14) It's so sweet to see you both talking as if your Imaginary Friends actually exist. I prefer the reality that has no time for such childish human intrigues. But you carry on, now. Don't let reality put you off!
Stuart
Hi Stuart,I have illustrated to you the proof of God's existence,
you're the one who's put off by the reality of what is!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed, God is everywhere, proof is everywhere,Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2010,11:09) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2010,08:11) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2010,22:14) It's so sweet to see you both talking as if your Imaginary Friends actually exist. I prefer the reality that has no time for such childish human intrigues. But you carry on, now. Don't let reality put you off!
Stuart
Hi Stuart,I have illustrated to you the proof of God's existence,
you're the one who's put off by the reality of what is!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed, God is everywhere, proof is everywhere,
Hi Shimmer,This is true, but Stuart is blind to it; even hard-core
Proof he can barely recognize as being substantive!
Because he does NOT understand “The Big Picture”.
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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2010,12:56) Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2010,11:09) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 20 2010,08:11) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2010,22:14) It's so sweet to see you both talking as if your Imaginary Friends actually exist. I prefer the reality that has no time for such childish human intrigues. But you carry on, now. Don't let reality put you off!
Stuart
Hi Stuart,I have illustrated to you the proof of God's existence,
you're the one who's put off by the reality of what is!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed, God is everywhere, proof is everywhere,
Hi Shimmer,This is true, but Stuart is blind to it; even hard-core
Proof he can barely recognize as being substantive!
Because he does NOT understand “The Big Picture”.
Fifth Post from top–> (Click Here)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDPlease stop pretending to know about the sacred name of God because seriously you don't even understand that it is not a proper name but simply a statement of Being.
I will be what I will be, Jesus said Hallowed be thy name which means stop doing what your doing. You believe that Jesus was crucified but you don't believe that you should obey what he asked of you?
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 20 2010,05:57) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2010,22:14) It's so sweet to see you both talking as if your Imaginary Friends actually exist. I prefer the reality that has no time for such childish human intrigues. But you carry on, now. Don't let reality put you off!
Stuart
What is reality?If it is only what you can sense then how is it you can know that we are not sensing something just because you are not? If a person is blind should they believe that there is nothing to see or if they are deaf should they believe there is nothing to hear?
No, it could be what you sense too. But we are not just talking about you sensing something uncanny, are we. It is a full-blown concept of an Imaginary Friend you are talking about, which appears to have the same kinds of likes and dislikes that humans do, except apparently it can do magic too.I suggest to you that actually you have not even tried to exhaust all the non-magical explanations for what you claim to sense. You certainly don't appear willing to acknowledge the explanations that do not involve celestial conspiracies.
When you hear the sound of hooves in the night, why do you think of zebras first and never horses?
Stuart
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2010,11:06) One day Stuart, you will see what you dont believe, then you will believe !
I think I am unlikely to convert to Hinduism.Apparently you don't!
Stuart
Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2010,20:22) Hi Ed. Hard core proof is numbers Ed ? I would say hard core proof is life itself,
Hi Shimmer,When the complete intertwining aspect of all the information I present is fully understood,
the logical conclusion to draw is that an “intelligent designer” has made this construct!
Plus, due to the nature of the large time scales necessary to produce this linguistic
amalgamation, one can hardly point to man as “the Creator” of this intention.
Therefore the only “logical conclusion” left for the Agnostic to draw is…
…the“PROOF OF GOD”117 has been encoded into reality itself!Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (Stu @ Sep. 20 2010,22:10) Quote (shimmer @ Sep. 20 2010,11:06) One day Stuart, you will see what you dont believe, then you will believe !
I think I am unlikely to convert to Hinduism.Apparently you don't!
Stuart
Hinduism ? Ah, so thats something which maybe interests you ?
One day Stuart. You will know.
Quote (Stu @ Sep. 20 2010,21:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 20 2010,05:57) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2010,22:14) It's so sweet to see you both talking as if your Imaginary Friends actually exist. I prefer the reality that has no time for such childish human intrigues. But you carry on, now. Don't let reality put you off!
Stuart
What is reality?If it is only what you can sense then how is it you can know that we are not sensing something just because you are not? If a person is blind should they believe that there is nothing to see or if they are deaf should they believe there is nothing to hear?
No, it could be what you sense too. But we are not just talking about you sensing something uncanny, are we. It is a full-blown concept of an Imaginary Friend you are talking about, which appears to have the same kinds of likes and dislikes that humans do, except apparently it can do magic too.I suggest to you that actually you have not even tried to exhaust all the non-magical explanations for what you claim to sense. You certainly don't appear willing to acknowledge the explanations that do not involve celestial conspiracies.
When you hear the sound of hooves in the night, why do you think of zebras first and never horses?
Stuart
Actually I personally did exhaust non-magical explanations when God allowed me to do healings and other miraculous things that is why I started studying physics and the sciences so much because it was difficult to believe what was happening and while I was fascinated with Quantum mechanics such as “action at a distance” and “Quantum teleportation” it really ended up convincing me of the reality of God even more.Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 17 2010,23:33) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 17 2010,18:44) [/quote] SimplyForgiven,Sep. wrote:Dude,
Bod,
We broke that image as soon as we chose to say NO.
In other words Bod, we were disobediant to God.
He gave a command and YET Adam sinned,You say the image was broken but that's not what the scripture says:
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
Genesis 3:21-23Quote So the truth is, Adam said No, and he BROKE the IMAGE that God gave us. WE were created in the LIKENESS of his Image, and than we broke whatever BOND we had with God.
The Tree that Adam and Eve ate from brought spiritual death.
A seperation between God and Man.Where are you getting this stuff from, The term spiritual death is not scriptural nor would it make sense. Noah was called righteous i.e. not a sinner. Job was called perfect and upright i.e. not a sinner
Quote Dont try to back me in a corner and try to MAKE me state that i am a Muslim. I AM certainly not a Muslim.
You cant force any classfication on me based SOLELY on your interpretation.Then you do not have the freedom in Christ you claim to have, if you shirk from the wordly view and do not grab on to the spiritual reality, either you are a Submitter or not and if you are any person with the arabic language is going to call you Muslim. Do you think Jesus spoke in english or Aramaic and Hebrew? Example Hebrew uses Shalom Arabic Salaam
Quote Im not only a submitter, I follow Jesus, All i want to do in my life is to pick up that Cross and Follow him. Then you are a Muslim
Quote A Follower of Christ, Thats what i am. A Christian Muslim
Quote People say they are catholic all the TIME, but doesnt mean they know what that actually means.
People say they are Christans all the time, but they dont even know what that truely means,That's my point you say you're not a Muslim but you don't even know what that means
Quote You are assuming everyone is following the direct defintions of what they cliam to be, when its an illusion, an assumption. No, I am saying that people are often what they don't know they are.
Quote IF you want to understand people, first put away your think, and understand them instead of trying to force people into your interpretation. How can you expect people to understand you when your just as unwilling to understand others and how they DEFINE life. Of course I am willing to understand them
Quote You believe solely in those limitations. I believe that Jesus is the Son of God, not juat a mere man nor an angel, but is a King of Kings and the Lord of All. Yes, but not the Lord of God, God is above all and it is HE whom you must Submit to.
Quote Your stuck on 5 again bod, lets get back to level 10.
Are you saying that God cannot give prophecy?
Does he not know it all?Yes, HE does but Jesus doesn't/didn't
God cannot be a prophet a prophecy is the message that has been communicated to a prophet who can tell God what he does not know? Or who needs to inform God before HE informs us?
Quote God made us perfectly at first, we are the ones who ruined it. God made us with the capacity to sin so therefore we have not changed at all. If God willed HE could have made us incapable of disobedience so why is it you Judge God's creation? Is HE not Wise, Mighty and Capable of executing HIS plans?
Do you really believe we landed in struggle by accident?
Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #155)Quote I didnt say you never loved God.
Dont get emotional and tear up on me bod.You love God, because God loved you first,
You love God because God drew you in.The scripture says DRAW NEAR to GOD and HE will draw near to you. It doesn't matter if HE drew me in or I pursued HIM the Fact is the Love is there
Quote God attracted you. That doesn't matter God also created me
Quote Its easy to say that we love God, but love is not defined by words nor by reptition, but by ACTION and Truth. Actually that might not be as easy as you think I talk to many people who find it hard to say that they love God or that God loves them
Quote And since we are a SINFUl people, it would be a lie to say that we have l
oved in with all our MIGHT through out every single circumstance in our lives.We are not all sinful people Jesus already made that clear, there were righteous people already here and always have been here they were not sinful, God called the RIGHTEOUS and Jesus said he did not come to call the RIGHTEOUS but Sinners to repentance. Why do you not believe God when he says someone is righteous?
Matthew 10:40-42 (New King James Version)
40 “He who receives you receives Me, and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me. 41 He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet’s reward. And he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man’s reward. 42 And whoever gives one of these little ones only a cup of cold water in the name of a disciple, assuredly, I say to you, he shall by no means lose his rewardQuote it would be a lie to say that we never ONCE doubted, that we never ONCED failed, not that we never sinned. Sin is not the destructive force, the inability to repent is. God does not care about your sins they only hurt you not HIM but if you have learned and become perfected through supplication you have then learned a great thing FAITH. Did you not understand this parable:
Luke 15:11-32 (King James Version)
11And he said, A certain man had two sons:
12And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falleth to me. And he divided unto them his living.
13And not many days after the younger son gathered all together, and took his journey into a far country, and there wasted his substance with riotous living.
14And when he had spent all, there arose a mighty famine in that land; and he began to be in want.
15And he went and joined himself to a citizen of that country; and he sent him into his fields to feed swine.
16And he would fain have filled his belly with the husks that the swine did eat: and no man gave unto him.
17And when he came to himself, he said, How many hired servants of my father's have bread enough and to spare, and I perish with hunger!
18I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,
19And am no more worthy to be called thy son: make me as one of thy hired servants.
20And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him.
21And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.
22But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
23And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
24For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.
25Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.
26And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.
27And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.
28And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.
29And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:
30But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.
31And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
32It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.
When you understand this Parable you will understand what I have been saying
Quote All these actions tell us otherwise.
Many love to reach Paradise, they just dont want to see God there.Believe it or not, You love God because of God, not because of yourself.
Did God not put in me the ability to think? I love God because of Myself because my sense could not perceive God and therefore I projected My love to know God and hE returned HIS Love and I felt HIS presence and I have been like a well fed plant ever since soaking up The Glory of GOD basking in HIS sunshine and drinking from HIS ocean of love. I don't just “believe” God exists I BELIEVE GOD and I KNOW GOD exists and I KNOW GOD
Quote none of us are worthy. All of us are PRICELESS
Quote You say the image was broken but that's not what the scripture says: Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”—
Genesis 3:21-23
You using scripture out of context. so man achieved the image of God? is that what your saying?
Romans says that we ALL have fallen short.Quote Where are you getting this stuff from, The term spiritual death is not scriptural nor would it make sense. Noah was called righteous i.e. not a sinner. Job was called perfect and upright i.e. not a sinner
You clearly dont know what that means. It simply means that we are seperated from God. Which is the seperated life that we live now. You agreed before that man has no desire to repent, and that there are those who want nothing to do with God, this is spiritual death. Noah was called righteous so are you saying he is flawless? Why was he righteous? because he was willling to be obedient. Job is the same condition, but even Elihu the young man the “Fourth” speaker showed Jobs TRUE flaws before God.Quote Then you do not have the freedom in Christ you claim to have, if you shirk from the wordly view and do not grab on to the spiritual reality, either you are a Submitter or not and if you are any person with the arabic language is going to call you Muslim. Do you think Jesus spoke in english or Aramaic and Hebrew? Example Hebrew uses Shalom Arabic Salaam
Very bold cliam to say, i hope you can prove it, lets not get personal bod. Its about the Intentions in the “way” you mean it. Again i would not call my God Allah, nor would i call myself a Muslim. Your saying that i “HAVE” to, im saying i actually dont. If i were to Speak aramiac and the only way i could communicate my beliefs were to state “allah” and “muslim” i
would have no problem to do so. but this is not the case, i would not make such cliams because first the modern interpretation is based on a “Religion” and to afiliate myself with those terms would be unwise.
You say you follow Christ, you should call yourself a Christian since you believe in his teachings.
Yet we distinctly know what IT truely being interpreted as rather than the REAL meaning.
we live in a world of assumptions and I for one will not lead others into confusion and call myself a Muslim and a Christian.
Do not do what APPEARS to be good.
I know what i means, and i am what it truely means, but in todays world, WORDs DEFINITIONS change.
Check your dictionary for the word “replenish” it means to “refill” in todays world,
in the times of the KJV, it means “to Fill”The english language mutates alot.
Quote Then you are a Muslim
I am not, by the terms that it means modernly and i am by what it truely means.Quote That's my point you say you're not a Muslim but you don't even know what that means
Thats not the Point becasue the status quo is not always the true definitions, but the modern interpretation of it.Quote No, I am saying that people are often what they don't know they are.
Are also are not what they cliam to beQuote Yes, but not the Lord of God, God is above all and it is HE whom you must Submit to.
Enteranl life is found in knowing the ONE true God and JESUS CHRIST in whom he has sent.
not one over another, but both.Quote Yes, HE does but Jesus doesn't/didn't
God cannot be a prophet a prophecy is the message that has been communicated to a prophet who can tell God what he does not know? Or who needs to inform God before HE informs us?
Prophecy is based on events or occrurences or bonds that have not taken place yet and are revealed to a person by God, Jesus also gave prophecies to those who would follow him. To Reveal information of the future is the one who is a prophet, or true intentions of the heart, a person is directly used by God as a microphone. This is all Gods doing, he is THE PROPHET, not that he needed to be informed, but beacuse he knows it all to reveal to those whom he wills to.Quote God made us with the capacity to sin so therefore we have not changed at all. If God willed HE could have made us incapable of disobedience so why is it you Judge God's creation? Is HE not Wise, Mighty and Capable of executing HIS plans? Do you really believe we landed in struggle by accident?
Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #155)
To sin brings consquenecs, again like i said, God made us perfectly and staying with him brings us Joy, buttttttt we chose sin over God and now we live in the desert of life. You think God didnt know we would do such a thing? of course he knew, its obvious any person in live wants to be CHOSEN.
Again we chosen vomit over God, we have chosen hatred and everything that is not God. We all have done this.
The Fact is that at first WE DID NOT LOVE SIN, AND WE WERE NOT MADE TO SIN, but we chose SIN over God, and we were created to be obedient not disobedient, thats why people live their lives in a self-destructing manner, for we have destroyed our own nature.Quote The scripture says DRAW NEAR to GOD and HE will draw near to you. It doesn't matter if HE drew me in or I pursued HIM the Fact is the Love is there
Scriptures says that in Isaiah of course, but also it says that he loves you first, not the other way around,
The Fact is its by God grace we are saved, not by our own handy work.Quote That doesn't matter God also created me
How can you say that doesnt matter?
Gods creation is proof that not only he existed but of course that he cares.Quote Actually that might not be as easy as you think I talk to many people who find it hard to say that they love God or that God loves them
And…………?Quote We are not all sinful people Jesus already made that clear, there were righteous people already here and always have been here they were not sinful, God called the RIGHTEOUS and Jesus said he did not come to call the RIGHTEOUS but Sinners to repentance. Why do you not believe God when he says someone is righteous?
so the pharasies he was referring to were the righteous ones… really? oh and the young lad who followed every commandment yet couldnt give away everything he had to follow Jesus? These are the Righteous?
Jesus also said that one must be last, and that we must deny ourselves. To say you are righteous means that you dont need God, your using scripture out of context again.Quote Sin is not the destructive force, the inability to repent is. God does not care about your sins they only hurt you not HIM but if you have learned and become perfected through supplication you have then learned a great thing FAITH. Did you not understand this parable:
OF COURSE HE CARES BECAUSE IT HURTS HIM! ITS EVERYTHIGN THAT HE HATES!
you clearly dont understand the parable, the FATHER saw him from afar and WENT TOO HIM! He was waiting constantly searching.
Scriptures said that he will wash away your sins for HIS OWN SAKE! for his OWN GOOD. he hates these things bod.
Yet the obediant kid who didnt care about his brother who was more worried abotu what he deserved was Righteous? he didnt care that his brother was dead, like the father did.Quote Did God not put in me t
he ability to think? I love God because of Myself because my sense could not perceive God and therefore I projected My love to know God and hE returned HIS Love and I felt HIS presence and I have been like a well fed plant ever since soaking up The Glory of GOD basking in HIS sunshine and drinking from HIS ocean of love. I don't just “believe” God exists I BELIEVE GOD and I KNOW GOD exists and I KNOW GOD
God gave you the ability to React to what he Does. You Love God because you realized about everything he did For you. You are the one returning love, for He loved first.
You can never Know God without Jesus.
MOSES COULDNT KNOW GOD! to KNOW GOD IS IMPOSSIBLE!Quote All of us are PRICELESS
No, Though we are Unworthy, Jesus paid THE PRICE,
once and for all.You are simply holding to your position out of habit, Did Jesus pay the price for those who do not believe at all and if so why do you try to convert them to believe if the price has been paid already belief is not an issue.
Are you a calvanist? Those who believe that all men are naturally depraved? It's quite a position that I think is “sick” and does not take into account that God made man good:)
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,03:25) You are simply holding to your position out of habit, Did Jesus pay the price for those who do not believe at all and if so why do you try to convert them to believe if the price has been paid already belief is not an issue. Are you a calvanist? Those who believe that all men are naturally depraved? It's quite a position that I think is “sick” and does not take into account that God made man good:)
Belief is the issue as i said, knowing God and Jesus Christ is eternal salvation.No i am not. I belive that man are capable of doing good only THROUGH God, and without him we are basically nothing.
God made man orginally Good, we are the ones who chose to be in a state of seperation from God.
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 21 2010,15:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,03:25) You are simply holding to your position out of habit, Did Jesus pay the price for those who do not believe at all and if so why do you try to convert them to believe if the price has been paid already belief is not an issue. Are you a calvanist? Those who believe that all men are naturally depraved? It's quite a position that I think is “sick” and does not take into account that God made man good:)
Belief is the issue as i said, knowing God and Jesus Christ is eternal salvation.No i am not. I belive that man are capable of doing good only THROUGH God, and without him we are basically nothing.
God made man orginally Good, we are the ones who chose to be in a state of seperation from God.
So you say we chose to be seperate from God but you don't believe that we can choose to not be seperate from God?God says according to the scriptures that when you turn to HIM he will turn to you. Why don't you believe that?
Look what God says to Jeremiah
Jeremiah 15:20 (New International Version)
20 I will make you a wall to this people,
a fortified wall of bronze;
they will fight against you
but will not overcome you,
for I am with you
to rescue and save you,”
declares the LORD.There is no seperation there. You should give up this belief it is untrue and not in the scriptures at all.
Was Mary seperated from God?
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 21 2010,05:33) Your saying that i “HAVE” to, im saying i actually dont. If i were to Speak aramiac and the only way i could communicate my beliefs were to state “allah” and “muslim” i would have no problem to do so.
HI SF,Those words are Arabic NOT Aramaic, which is the language Jesus spoke.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 22 2010,05:23) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 21 2010,05:33) Your saying that i “HAVE” to, im saying i actually dont. If i were to Speak aramiac and the only way i could communicate my beliefs were to state “allah” and “muslim” i would have no problem to do so.
HI SF,Those words are Arabic NOT Aramaic, which is the language Jesus spoke.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
The point still stands and Arabic is the sister language of Aramaic in Aramaic Jesus would have said “Alaha”You seem to want to be God HIMSELF
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,02:13) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 20 2010,21:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 20 2010,05:57) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2010,22:14) It's so sweet to see you both talking as if your Imaginary Friends actually exist. I prefer the reality that has no time for such childish human intrigues. But you carry on, now. Don't let reality put you off!
Stuart
What is reality?If it is only what you can sense then how is it you can know that we are not sensing something just because you are not? If a person is blind should they believe that there is nothing to see or if they are deaf should they believe there is nothing to hear?
No, it could be what you sense too. But we are not just talking about you sensing something uncanny, are we. It is a full-blown concept of an Imaginary Friend you are talking about, which appears to have the same kinds of likes and dislikes that humans do, except apparently it can do magic too.I suggest to you that actually you have not even tried to exhaust all the non-magical explanations for what you claim to sense. You certainly don't appear willing to acknowledge the explanations that do not involve celestial conspiracies.
When you hear the sound of hooves in the night, why do you think of zebras first and never horses?
Stuart
Actually I personally did exhaust non-magical explanations when God allowed me to do healings and other miraculous things that is why I started studying physics and the sciences so much because it was difficult to believe what was happening and while I was fascinated with Quantum mechanics such as “action at a distance” and “Quantum teleportation” it really ended up convincing me of the reality of God even more.
Was it the tarot cards or the alien abduction that finally sealed it for you?Have you ever healed an amputee?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Sep. 22 2010,16:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,02:13) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 20 2010,21:08) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 20 2010,05:57) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 19 2010,22:14) It's so sweet to see you both talking as if your Imaginary Friends actually exist. I prefer the reality that has no time for such childish human intrigues. But you carry on, now. Don't let reality put you off!
Stuart
What is reality?If it is only what you can sense then how is it you can know that we are not sensing something just because you are not? If a person is blind should they believe that there is nothing to see or if they are deaf should they believe there is nothing to hear?
No, it could be what you sense too. But we are not just talking about you sensing something uncanny, are we. It is a full-blown concept of an Imaginary Friend you are talking about, which appears to have the same kinds of likes and dislikes that humans do, except apparently it can do magic too.I suggest to you that actually you have not even tried to exhaust all the non-magical explanations for what you claim to sense. You certainly don't appear willing to acknowledge the explanations that do not involve celestial conspiracies.
When you hear the sound of hooves in the night, why do you think of zebras first and never horses?
Stuart
Actually I personally did exhaust non-magical explanations when God allowed me to do healings and other miraculous things that is why I started studying physics and the sciences so much because it was difficult to believe what was happening and while I was fascinated with Quantum mechanics such as “action at a distance” and “Quantum teleportation” it really ended up convincing me of the reality of God even more.
Was it the tarot cards or the alien abduction that finally sealed it for you?Have you ever healed an amputee?
Stuart
No, because an amputee is not sick. In-fact often the amputation was a cureQuote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,20:12) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Sep. 21 2010,15:02) Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 21 2010,03:25) You are simply holding to your position out of habit, Did Jesus pay the price for those who do not believe at all and if so why do you try to convert them to believe if the price has been paid already belief is not an issue. Are you a calvanist? Those who believe that all men are naturally depraved? It's quite a position that I think is “sick” and does not take into account that God made man good:)
Belief is the issue as i said, knowing God and Jesus Christ is eternal salvation.No i am not. I belive that man are capable of doing good only THROUGH God, and without him we are basically nothing.
God made man orginally Good, we are the ones who chose to be in a state of seperation from God.
So you say we chose to be seperate from God but you don't believe that we can choose to not be seperate from God?God says according to the scriptures that when you turn to HIM he will turn to you. Why don't you believe that?
Look what God says to Jeremiah
Jeremiah 15:20 (New International Version)
20 I will make you a wall to this people,
a fortified wall of bronze;
they will fight against you
but will not overcome you,
for I am with you
to rescue and save you,”
declares the LORD.There is no seperation there. You should give up this belief it is untrue and not in the scriptures at all.
Was Mary seperated from God?
bod, we made a choice that corrupted everything that we are, and the image we had.we became something else that God didnt want us to become.
WE become dependant on Sin and living without God, and doing what pleases oursleves.
we became the godless creatures that Hated God.
from there on we had no desire to please God.
we all have fallen short to be able to.Like i said Bod, we must KNOW God and JESUS Christ who he has sent, this is eternal life.
Because he is the cause for you to even turn to him.
Who said i didnt believe it!It is scriptural! lol
Its everywhere how we are carnally minded and how we are in a carnal mind,
Paul talks abuot this all over the book of Romans how we ALL need Jesus.Where do you think im getting this from?
From the book of romans itself.Did Mary ever Sin?
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