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- August 12, 2010 at 2:29 am#208576davidbfunParticipant
God EXISTS! Has no beginning or end. God is the parents of Jesus, God’s firstborn and only begotten son. God is not human even though we must use “personal” words to describe God and His characteristics.
Jesus is NOT God. He comes FROM God.
Jesus is the firstborn of all creation and is the Son of God. (Pre-existed all things except God who pro-created him.)
Jesus’ name is Yahshua…only after being born to Mary.
Possible names for Jesus before Jesus:
WORD; (my choice – Word of YHWH)
WONDERFUL
BELOVED SONGod is Light and Jesus is light, too,….possibly this is the “image” he undertook as the firstborn. Or God is Truth and Jesus is the Truth.
Jesus is the Light of the World.
Jesus is “THE BEGINNING”. Existed before birth thru Mary.
Jesus is BEFORE all things that have come into existence.
Thru Jesus everything was created, and he is my Creator.
Jesus is preeminent and has first-place in everything.
Jesus was the Angel of the LORD and spoke on behalf of God in the first person tense (“I”).
Jesus is the Lamb of God and sacrificed himself to pay for my sins. My Savior
Jesus is the Head of the Church, believers are its body.
Jesus is the firstborn of the dead.
Jesus was a Prophet and foretold future events.
Jesus is our Mediator….between God and Man. I pray to God thru Jesus, not a priest.
Jesus is a Priest according to the Order of Melchizedek.
Jesus is Prince of Peace. Father is King of Peace.
As the Son of God, Jesus’ Father is YHWH and begat (fathered/sired) Jesus.
As the Son of God, Jesus’ Mother has to be the (Holy) Spirit who born him. (Logic!) (Does not say this in Scripture, so don’t ask.)
Jesus emptied his “Heavenly body” to become a man, which The Holy Spirit implanted the emptied Jesus’ “DNA” into the Virgin Mary. (In-vitro fertilization.) Thus his status as the “Son of God” and “Son of Man” remain certain and intact.
Jesus is a future KING of kings and LORD of Lords.
Jesus is a future Judge of all creation.
Jesus is an Eternal Son and made an Eternal Covenant with God.
Jesus was sent by God as His free gift of Salvation to mankind.
Jesus’ Father is Melchizedek (YHWH/LORD). And Jesus is following in His footsteps as a Priest according to Melchizedek.
Melchizedek had NO: Mother, Father, genealogy, beginning of days, end of life. Melchizedek is a “Perpetual Priest” to “God Most High” (Elohim). Melchizedek looked like His son; the son of God.
Melchizedek’s name means: King of Righteousness and He is King of Salem (Peace); son is Prince of Peace. Jesus said that no one is “righteous” except his Father.
Jesus was called by people “God with us.” (Immanuel)
Jesus said that all he said or did came from his Father and if the people wanted to see the Father all they had to do was look at him because he is the exact representation of his Father, God. Nothing he did was for himself, everything he did was the will of the Father…and to bring glory to God.
The clergy called Jesus a “bastard” (born of fornication), and crazy (delusional).
His brothers inferred he was a coward.
He told Mary and Joseph that he HAD TO BE in his Father’s house (Temple of God), at age 13.
Jesus had 4 brothers (James, Judas, Joseph, Simon) and at least two sisters whom were born to Mary.
Jesus was born 6 months after John the Baptist but existed before him.
I am a brother of Jesus, thru adoption.
Jesus is my Lord and Master because he bought me with his blood and saved me from destruction.
No man can go to the Father but THRU Jesus.
Jesus commanded his followers to make Disciples (not churches), and baptize in the name of the Father, son, and Holy Spirit/Ghost.
I have the same Holy Spirit dwelling in me that Jesus has .
I am one with God, Jesus and the HS.
Jesus reiterated Ex 6:5 in that we are to love God with all of our heart, soul, mind and strength. He told us to love our neighbors and added that we are to love our enemies as well.
Jesus is not God because God exalted him and GAVE him a name above every name that all will worship and bow down to.
Jesus is not God because God GAVE him all authority. IF he was God he would’ve already had this authority.
Jesus is not God because God's Holy Spirit entered him at his baptism. If he was God the HS would already be inside of him.
Spiritually, Jesus is the bridegroom the church is the bride.
Jesus is my friend and he loves me.
Enough for now, these are given so that you can begin seeing some of my heresies.
The Professor
August 14, 2010 at 2:19 am#208916davidbfunParticipantI believe that Jesus was “THE Angel of the LORD” although I can't find direct evidence supporting it.
It was this body that he vacated prior to being implanted into Mary by the Holy Spirit.
Jesus is THE WORD. Jesus was in the beginning….WITH God as the WORD.
He spoke as the “I AM” in John 8 and as the Angel of the LORD he was in the burning bush and was the “I AM”.Jesus is God's messenger (angel) in OT and (man) NT.
Jesus is NOT spirit, he lives in Heaven in the same physical body that he left with.
August 14, 2010 at 3:41 am#208932ProclaimerParticipantIt is interesting to note that the Angel of the LORD is not mentioned at all after Jesus came in the flesh.
Is that a clue or a coincidence?August 14, 2010 at 4:30 am#208949davidbfunParticipantQuote (t8 @ Aug. 14 2010,22:41) It is interesting to note that the Angel of the LORD is not mentioned at all after Jesus came in the flesh.
Is that a clue or a coincidence?
t8,That is an excellent point!
I agree that if Jesus emptied his angelic body “The Angel of the Lord” would no longer exist in Heaven but would be present in Jesus. He claimed that he was a messenger of God and that all that he said and did was direct from the Father's mouth and teachings.
Thanks.
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