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Hi,
Jammin added,
“you cant understand that bec you do not know greek “So you boast of your greek knowledge yet find MONOGENES contains SON
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 22 2012,09:59) Hi,
Jammin tells us MONOGENES includes the word SON.
Is this true?
Hi Nick, No – it simply means “only begotten”,
gender is not included in this word!MONO: means one or only and
GENES: means offspring or progeny
Jammin needs to study 'his Greek' a bit more.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Nick, watching Dr. Gene Scott and Pastor Melissa Scott will help others to learn Greek and Hebrew.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Do the manuscripts for MONOGENES in heb 11 have the word SON as well?
I do not think so and if not it puts a different light on it too.Hi Nick,
No, it is grammatically implied by the object (Issac).
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2012,08:37) Hi ED,
Implied?
Does scripture imply?
Hi Nick,I didn't say “Scripture implies”,
I said instead the language structure implies.
This is yet further evidence why your terms must be defined.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 23 2012,03:19) Hi Nick, No, it is grammatically implied by the object (Issac).
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J.The word you are looking for is infer as imply means hints or suspicions; at least it did before too many misused it and so changed the language. That is my complaint about how language misuse and change complicates communications.
The fact Isaac is a male does not mean only begotten Son is inferred by the words monogenes as Isaac was the only legitimate child of either gender. Some translators get to focused on Jesus being the Son of God and forget he is the only “legitimate” child of God as well.
Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,10:33) Quote (Ed J @ May 23 2012,03:19) Hi Nick, No, it is grammatically implied by the object (Issac).
God bless
Ed J
Ed J.The word you are looking for is infer as imply means hints or suspicions; at least it did before too many misused it and so changed the language. That is my complaint about how language misuse and change complicates communications.
The fact Isaac is a male does not mean only begotten Son is inferred by the words monogenes as Isaac was the only legitimate child of either gender. Some translators get to focused on Jesus being the Son of God and forget he is the only “legitimate” child of God as well.
Hi Kerwin, yes.He is the only legally born heir.
We are heirs through adoption.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgedj,
LOL
you need to go to school and study greek
a greek speaker knows that monogenes also means only child
Hi Jammin,
And what makes you believe I disagree?
Are you sure you are not addressing Mike?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Jammin,
To be technical (μονογενής) Monogenes means only birthed child.
Siblings from another parent are excluded from the term “only”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (jammin @ May 23 2012,21:07)
therefore edj do you believe Christ is monogenes theos or God the only son?
Hi Jammin,There is no such thing as an only begotten god.
Jesus is God's (μονογενης υιος) only begotten son.
God has other children, and Jesus has other siblings.Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org
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