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- August 13, 2007 at 2:36 pm#63959IM4TruthParticipant
ahi Chap thank you ,but I am to tired to read it right now,will do it later O.K.
Peace ans Love Mrs.
August 13, 2007 at 7:09 pm#63963kenrchParticipantQuote (IM4Truth @ Aug. 13 2007,20:38) Ken My Husband has nothing to do with this, He is smarter then I am , He doesn't answer someone that disagrees with Him. You don't judge? And I have been on your case? I think that is the opposite. Now let me see what you said to me!
These are all nice compliments?????
The Holy Spirit is not in my Heart.
I don't understand spiritual things
God has used me like He used Pharaoh.
I keep the Sabbath were you don't in my heart.
Whats wrong with my answer? I'll tell you whats wrong it shows your error.
I must be rich and have people working for me, either that or I am lazy.
well Mim I have things to do. It's not the Sabbath you know or do you?
You know I haven't much money so since I keep the forth and you only have to keep nine I think I'll break the eight commandment. We keep the one we want. Sort of reminds me of they started to say that the Red Sea was only 8″ deep. So everyone said Wow! God drowned People and horses in eight inches of water.
This is what you have said to me in between scriptures. And probable more.
These are all scriptures? Boy you could have fooled me!!!!!! Right You do not judge?????What do you call this? This is the last time I am going to say anything else to you, I do not want to continue in Sin. You see you don't even see, what you do to others, and others have pointed it out to you too.
Peace and Love to you
Mrs.
Mrs I just finished re-reading the whole thread and Again I find where you rejected scripture. You tried to say that God wrote Moses law on the other side of the tablets.
I gave scripture that proves that was NOT CORRECT. Was that good enough MRS?
I gave scripture showing that Moses wrote the law and put “the Book” in the side some translations have it ON the side of the ark. And IF that wasn't enough I gave scripture where the ark was opened and ONLY the Ten Commandments were found in the ark. Was that good enough Mrs?Then you say don't put it on the back burner when I'm trying to tell you if you didn't (heaven would only know why) understand it after the MANY scriptures I gave that PERHAPS you were not ready and this has happened to me AND when it does I don't deny it that is to say right OR wrong INSTEAD I put it on the back burner.
But yet you PERSIST to misquote, take scripture out of context and YES I gave scripture that corrected your error.
NOW notice SCRIPTURE that corrected your error.
You are so full of pride that you can't wait to TRY to prove scripture wrong BECAUSE I gave it that you pull the scriptures out of context and error with those who take Paul's writings and twist them to their own destruction.
That's NOT being on my case?
Kejonn who admits that he new when the seventh day was wanted scriptural proof when the seventh day was these are Satanic deceptive attacks.
NO MRS I DON'T apologize to you or kejonn for DEFENDING the truth that neither of you see.
I read where I answered your questions with scripture. I read that you then gave scripture that was pulled out of context and just dead wrong. I read where I gave scripture to SHOW where you were in error. I read where then YOU started getting ugly because the scriptures I gave proved YOU WRONG.
I read where you then got progressively MORE ugly OH not out right that is NOT Satan's way he is the master of deception NO but very nicely YOU BECAME UGLY VERY UGLY!Then I read where you twisted everything and said I was wrong for defending scripture. OH and How you are so hurt!
The last thing I read was how guilty you were AND now you are here with the same thing. You don't fool me MRS
NOW You quote things I said after you kept going on and on about nothing. “You don't understand how you can keep the Sabbath Spiritually and physically”. I had ASK you to please put it on the back burner until the Spirit gave you understanding. But no you kept attacking trying to make scripture say what you want, 2Tim 4:1-4.
GO YOUR WAY MRS.
Laurel had you pegged right you didn't fool her either.IHN&L,
That's right MRS LOVE when you Love someone you don't let them continue to drive off a cliff.
So for now MRS put it on the back burner until your blood cools down. Then seek the Spirit.
NO MRS I'm not angry I'm upset that you let Satan use you.
August 13, 2007 at 8:06 pm#63964kenrchParticipantIam4 you are the most sarcastic peoson in Heaven Net.
Laurel You better put that label on Ken not me
Hello! Why was I drug into this MRS?
Your Husband? I have no questions for your husband. Why would I? I was just wondering where he was? I told your husband that I didn't know if he was right, but I was NOT saying he was wrong. That I would have to put it on the back burner untill the Spirit gave me witness.
The same thing I asked you to do
Just trying to open your eyes IN His Love
August 14, 2007 at 5:40 am#64005Not3in1ParticipantGood grief
August 14, 2007 at 5:58 am#64006LaurelParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 13 2007,04:50) to all…..lets stop the name calling, we all get caught up in at times, I gess it shows we all got salt,” ha ha.”
But laruel, I do have a question in regardes to the reign of Jesus on earth, it has to do with theprophesy of Dainel, where he was talking about the large image that the King of Baboloyn Nebocanazar saw. It gives a progression of world ruleing Kingdoms on the earth and the last was a kingdom the had ten toes mixed with iron and clay, which pictures us today. The image had two feet which shows two world ruling Kingdoms like the United Stated and Russia and were made us of mingled races Just like Us and Russia are, and it say's in the days of these kingdoms the God of Heavenwill set up a kingdom that will never be destoryed, It also say's that a rock came out of heaven and smote the beast on the feet and all the image calasped and the Kingdom shall be given to the Saints of the Most High and they shall posses it for ever. It seems to piont to a earthly rule and not a heavenly one.
Just my take thats all…….gene
The feet of Iron mingled with clay. Iron represents the religious rule that stemed originally from Eqypt, then to Greece and then to Rome. Rome ultimately is Iron. Clay is earth that is able to be formed. I think this clay is people who are wishy washy, if I may. Most of the people today are not sure-footed in their faith. Their faith is not built on a solid foudation that is only found in Scripture.These clay people fall into the Roman religious system which by the way is not only religious, but also political.
Yes, I do beliece also that this figure of a man from Nebucadnezer's dream is worldly as you can see from my above paragraph.
I do believe there will be a new earth. I know that the new earth will be inhabited by those who were raised in the first resurection (meaning those who do not suffer the 2nd death). The thing I see is that when our Savior returns as jugde those who are dead and in Him will rise to meet Him in the air, then those who are still alive and in Him will meet Him secondly.
After we are all safe and sound in heaven there will be 1,000 years in which to judge those who were not saved. I do not know myself it these will be literal 1,000 years or if it represents a day. I know that Satan will be bound durring this time. After all hell is broke loose and death is destroyed we will come back to the new earth.When I consider my belief I have to consider what our Messiah said in Luke 16:19-31. The ones who are not saved will see those who are saved and know they didn't make it.
Because of this verse it looks like once the saved are in heaven, the dead come out of the grave to be judged.
One more note on these verses, we can see that Moses and the prophets are definately important to our salvation. Moses law was placed beside the ark, but those who walk in faith will look at Moses law and see good in it. Those who do will be able to discern the reason for it's importance, and I believe the laws came straight from YHWH and Moses just wrote them down. Wow it would have been hard for Moses to carry many, many tablets of stone to Israel!
The details to the Sabbath were written by Moses, and I know those are important to us today.
August 14, 2007 at 6:28 am#64008LaurelParticipantQuote (IM4Truth @ Aug. 12 2007,06:15) Laurel What your imagination?
MrsIam,
I can't discuss with you the meatier things until you are able to digest the basic milk of His Scripture. First is belief that Y'shua IS the Messiah whis He prooved by being in the tomb Wed. before sunset through Sabbath before sunset. That is exactly 3 days and 3 nights, just like the Messiah said, and just like Paul said.Once you understand the Word is “the Spirit of Truth”, then we learn to “follow Messiah Y'shua”. We walk in His Ways. We follow the Torah set forth by YHWH. The 10 commandments. The Sabbath day is Set-apart by YHWH. It is a sign between Him and those who worship Him. By His laws He knows who is His and so do I.
John 15:10 Keep My commandments as I have kept My Father's commandments.
1 John 2:3 Hereby we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
1Jo 2:4 He that saith, I know Him, keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 3:22 says that if we keep His commandments and ask for anything such as knowledge, it will be given.
I know it's hard to understand Scripture when we have been taught all our lives in church that the Sabbath is no more. I also did the sun-day church thing most of my life. I was somewhat angry when I learned that I may have been worshiping on another day. I sought to know the truth. I found it, now I can never go back to the other day.
The same thing happened to my children who are grown, and my Mother who is old. We are never too old, too young, or too distant from Him. He hears our cries for truth and answers us. It was not even a soft still voice, like some say. When I learned the truth, my heart was enlightened, to the point there was not a doubt. Now when I read, I understand many things which were kept from me before. He knows me now and we have a relationship. I hear Him all day long.
Mrs.Iam,
No one here can make you see anything. You have the Book in front of you. Pray for understanding, and promise to obey if and when He shows you the truth. If you do this, you will find what you seek.ps. Our imaginations are evil. We do well not to let our imaginations get in the Way of the truth.
LaurelAugust 14, 2007 at 11:49 am#64032acertainchapParticipantQuote (IM4Truth @ Aug. 14 2007,02:36) ahi Chap thank you ,but I am to tired to read it right now,will do it later O.K. Peace ans Love Mrs.
Ok. Peace.August 14, 2007 at 1:05 pm#64039kenrchParticipantQuote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 14 2007,17:40) Good grief August 15, 2007 at 5:17 am#64076LaurelParticipantacertainchap I read the site you posted. I think it is close to accurate, but not exact. Any way the point should be, the end of the world as we know it is near and the kingdom of heaven IS at hand. Knowing this may all believers go out and warn the sleepy world!
August 15, 2007 at 12:45 pm#64104Cult BusterParticipant2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2Pe 3:11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
2Pe 3:12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
2Pe 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
2Pe 3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
August 16, 2007 at 5:51 am#64163LaurelParticipantCult,
Good verses.
LaurelFebruary 4, 2008 at 8:38 pm#80727NickHassanParticipantHi Laurel,
You say
“After we are all safe and sound in heaven there will be 1,000 years in which to judge those who were not saved. I do not know myself it these will be literal 1,000 years or if it represents a day. I know that Satan will be bound durring this time. After all hell is broke loose and death is destroyed we will come back to the new earth.”We are not in heaven but on earth where Christ is ruling.
February 5, 2008 at 2:29 am#80743NickHassanParticipantQuote (Laurel @ Aug. 10 2007,18:59) The Scripture tell us each generation from Adam to Y'shua and how long they lived. There is the 1,000 year reign with Messiah in heaven after the saved are justified, at that time Satan will be bound.
Not the same as the mellenial years which are now.
The mellenium of the ages now it began on the first day of the 7th mellienium., or Month one, Day one of 6001, which was around March in 2001 I think.
Hi Laurel,
It is now 5768 in the jewish calendar.Who can tell us how it is calculated?
Could the millenium, the rest day[heb 4], start in 32 yrs?February 5, 2008 at 4:18 am#80778seek and you will findParticipantNick When Israel became a Nation again in 1948 that was the beginning of this generation that Jesus talked about saying:” This generation shall not pass till all things will be fulfilled.” A generation being 70 years that leaves us only 10 years left. The Great Tribulation is just around the corner. While many Antichrist's are on the scene already, but the one that will sit in Jerusalem and declair to be God will happen the last 31/2 years of the tribulation.
Peace and Love Mrs.
February 5, 2008 at 6:56 am#80785Not3in1ParticipantQuote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 05 2008,15:18) Nick When Israel became a Nation again in 1948 that was the beginning of this generation that Jesus talked about saying:” This generation shall not pass till all things will be fulfilled.” A generation being 70 years that leaves us only 10 years left. The Great Tribulation is just around the corner. While many Antichrist's are on the scene already, but the one that will sit in Jerusalem and declair to be God will happen the last 31/2 years of the tribulation. Peace and Love Mrs.
Does this mean we can stop investing for retirement and take that world-cruise we've been dreaming about?After all, if we only have 10 more years to go, I'll only be 50.
Well, all smiling aside, I've always dreamt about being a part of the generation that sees the coming of the Lord.
February 5, 2008 at 8:41 am#80788seek and you will findParticipantQuote (Not3in1 @ Feb. 05 2008,17:56) Quote (seek and you will find @ Feb. 05 2008,15:18) Nick When Israel became a Nation again in 1948 that was the beginning of this generation that Jesus talked about saying:” This generation shall not pass till all things will be fulfilled.” A generation being 70 years that leaves us only 10 years left. The Great Tribulation is just around the corner. While many Antichrist's are on the scene already, but the one that will sit in Jerusalem and declair to be God will happen the last 31/2 years of the tribulation. Peace and Love Mrs.
Does this mean we can stop investing for retirement and take that world-cruise we've been dreaming about?After all, if we only have 10 more years to go, I'll only be 50.
Well, all smiling aside, I've always dreamt about being a part of the generation that sees the coming of the Lord.
Mandy Hi glad to see you posting. Being here in the end times is not going to be easy. Rev. 13 is all about the mark of the Beast and for that be watchful that you will not receive it. You might even have to give your live like the first Christains did. The reward is to be the elect and reign with Christ a thousand years as Kings or Priests. The choice will be yours if you are alive at that time.
Peace and Love Mrs.April 10, 2008 at 4:12 am#86594NickHassanParticipantHi,
The reign of Jesus from JerusalemMicah4
1But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
2And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
3And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
4But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
How tolerant is our God is shown by this next verse
5For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.
April 10, 2008 at 4:36 am#86595Not3in1ParticipantWow! What do you think verse 5 means? Could it mean just what I have been saying, and other's too, that various religions are all worshiping the same God but just with a different name/culture?
April 10, 2008 at 4:46 am#86598seek and you will findParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2008,16:12) Hi,
The reign of Jesus from JerusalemMicah4
1But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
2And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
3And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
4But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the LORD of hosts hath spoken it.
How tolerant is our God is shown by this next verse
5For all people will walk every one in the name of his god, and we will walk in the name of the LORD our God for ever and ever.
Nick I know that Jesus will set up His Headquarters in Jerusalem, but what I never noticed the last verse of Micah before.
If our God is a jealous God, do you believe that He would have other God's beside Him. I really don't think so. He put a Commandment on Mount Sinai that said to Love God with all of your Heart. Do not have other God's besides me. That is a direct contradiction to Micah. God is the same yesterday and today. So if He says do not have other God's beside me, we should not believe that He would. That verse must have been added by somebody, like 1 John 5:7.
Peace and Love Mrs.April 10, 2008 at 5:07 am#86605Not3in1ParticipantIrene,
OR it means that there is no God but him, however, different nations and people call him by a different name. What do other's think?
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