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- January 19, 2011 at 3:56 am#233729Ed JParticipant
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,13:48) Hi WJ, Francis knows how to make simple arguements that are also direct and concise.
Hi SF,Francis also runs when others do it to him!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 19, 2011 at 3:59 am#233731SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2011,07:43) Quote As you wish Dennison. By the way, do you think “third member of the triune God” is an accurate DEFINITION of the word “spirit”? You MUST, right? Because NETNotes says so, right?
I wouldnt use the word Member
but in reference to what Scripture??Quote When you find that ONE single scripture that teaches Jesus is God, let me know, okay?
We did so many time already?
do you have AMnesia?? Alzheimer's???Quote Hey, just a couple more questions from my “defeat”: 1. Does being called by the title “elohim” ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY mean that one is God Almighty? YES or NO?
2. So does the fact that Jesus is referred to by this title ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY mean that HE is God Almighty? YES or NO?
3. So, does ANY scripture where Jesus is referred to as “elohim” ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY mean that HE is God Almighty? YES or NO?
1. Yes or No it Depends on Context
2. Yes becasue of Context
3. Yes =) because of ContextQuote You know what, D? Since you all have been avoiding these clear and direct questions like the plague, I'm going to pretend I'm you for a minute and HONESTLY answer each question.
Bummer, Mike. I guess we're going to have to break down and show you some other proof scripture, because you're right – being called “elohim” doesn't make Jesus God Almighty anymore than Deborah was God Almighty when she was called “elohim”.[/color]
LOL not even in your DREAMS woud i EVER say that!Quote Thanks for the HONEST and DIRECT way you answered my simple questions, D.
When have i ever avoided these answers!! i have answered this for the billoneth Time! lolJanuary 19, 2011 at 4:01 am#233732Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,13:52) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,07:40) Hi SF, You should talk about running away.
You run from almost every point I bring to you.
Now Francis has decided to run as well; no 'checkmate'!
Lol.Actually I respond to most of your Posts like an idioit.
Its foolish for me to respond to you, because your arguements are NONESENSE.
and than you flood the thread with SPAM.If i cant even discuss a simple point with you without you spamming the same thing over and over again, and making posting like your a robot, than whats the point?
WJ, Francis, KJ, Shimmer, and I do not like talking to you because you make no sense.
why because your not humble, and you dont care about what we have to say. so how can we discuss with you?
Your worst than a morman or a Jehovah witness that shows up at ones door to force their doctrine down our throats.
No one believes you? shouldnt that tell you something?
You dont receive a “checkmate” in chess if no one is willing to play with you.
But if you CHANGE your ways, than maybe one day we can debate with respect instead of answering nonesense.
Hi Dennison,Thanks for admitting you run! Some day (maybe)
you will be mature enough to discuss differences!WJ has reached that level of maturity, I pray you will too!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 19, 2011 at 4:03 am#233734SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 19 2011,07:45) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,13:40) Hi SF, You should talk about running away.
You run from almost every point I bring to you.
Now Francis has decided to run as well; no 'checkmate'!
Hi Ed,Look back at the actual POINTS I made in that post to Dennison. And then look at the only part he quoted while proclaiming MY defeat!
peace and love,
mike
LOL Mike,How can I respond to your arguements (that DO NOT refute the last post I made.) when you said this “Im done with this”
You at that moment CUT OFF the debate, as if you are not going to respond to any more points that I make.
Why would i waste my time proving more points when you are going to ignore them (as you have already ignored many of my points) lol lunacy!Heck why dont you check the post you were responding too.
I mention 1kings 18, and you didnt even refute it.I argued your president example, and you didnt refute it.
Man i made more points than you, and you keep on going in a endless cycle of new arguements that have nothing to do with the orginal arguements!Mike you DEFEATED yourself.
Lol,
Sorry didnt you get the memo?
Check & MateJanuary 19, 2011 at 4:04 am#233736mikeboll64BlockedQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,13:59)
I wouldnt use the word Member
Oh, but you MUST! NETNotes says it, so you MUST take those EXACT words as a real DEFINITION of “spirit”. So…………DO YOU? And if not, then how about you back off me about not accepting every single thing they say?Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,13:59)
We did so many time already?
do you have AMnesia?? Alzheimer's???
ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE………..RIGHT NOW! GO!Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,13:59)
1. Yes or No it Depends on Context
2. Yes becasue of Context
3. Yes =) because of Context
D, does the context of Psalm 45:6 make that “elohim” God Almighty?mike
January 19, 2011 at 4:06 am#233737SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,08:01) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,13:52) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,07:40) Hi SF, You should talk about running away.
You run from almost every point I bring to you.
Now Francis has decided to run as well; no 'checkmate'!
Lol.Actually I respond to most of your Posts like an idioit.
Its foolish for me to respond to you, because your arguements are NONESENSE.
and than you flood the thread with SPAM.If i cant even discuss a simple point with you without you spamming the same thing over and over again, and making posting like your a robot, than whats the point?
WJ, Francis, KJ, Shimmer, and I do not like talking to you because you make no sense.
why because your not humble, and you dont care about what we have to say. so how can we discuss with you?
Your worst than a morman or a Jehovah witness that shows up at ones door to force their doctrine down our throats.
No one believes you? shouldnt that tell you something?
You dont receive a “checkmate” in chess if no one is willing to play with you.
But if you CHANGE your ways, than maybe one day we can debate with respect instead of answering nonesense.
Hi Dennison,Thanks for admitting you run! Some day (maybe)
you will be mature enough to discuss differences!WJ has reached that level of maturity, I pray you will too!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Lol Ed J,
I have already proven you wrong many many times,
but u dont accept it.If your implying that im immature for not wanting to discuss any matter with you, than I hope that i become more immature, i Hope that Im like a Child in the Kingdom of God.
Lol, because if Mature is being like you, than i want nothing to do with it.
being Conceited, and lack of respect are not the ways of truth, that you CLAIM to present.January 19, 2011 at 4:12 am#233740Ed JParticipantSimplyForgiven,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote you keep on going in a endless cycle of new arguements that have nothing to do with the orginal arguements!
Hi Dennison,The world doesn't revolve around you, you need to address Mikes points as well.
There are others here (no names) who think the same way as well;
they also need to address the points others make as well.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)January 19, 2011 at 4:20 am#233742Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,14:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,08:01) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,13:52) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,07:40) Hi SF, You should talk about running away.
You run from almost every point I bring to you.
Now Francis has decided to run as well; no 'checkmate'!
Lol.Actually I respond to most of your Posts like an idioit.
Its foolish for me to respond to you, because your arguements are NONESENSE.
and than you flood the thread with SPAM.If i cant even discuss a simple point with you without you spamming the same thing over and over again, and making posting like your a robot, than whats the point?
WJ, Francis, KJ, Shimmer, and I do not like talking to you because you make no sense.
why because your not humble, and you dont care about what we have to say. so how can we discuss with you?
Your worst than a morman or a Jehovah witness that shows up at ones door to force their doctrine down our throats.
No one believes you? shouldnt that tell you something?
You dont receive a “checkmate” in chess if no one is willing to play with you.
But if you CHANGE your ways, than maybe one day we can debate with respect instead of answering nonesense.
Hi Dennison,Thanks for admitting you run! Some day (maybe)
you will be mature enough to discuss differences!WJ has reached that level of maturity, I pray you will too!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Lol Ed J,
I have already proven you wrong many many times,
but u dont accept it.If your implying that im immature for not wanting to discuss any matter with you, than I hope that i become more immature, i Hope that Im like a Child in the Kingdom of God.
Lol, because if Mature is being like you, than i want nothing to do with it.
being Conceited, and lack of respect are not the ways of truth, that you CLAIM to present.
Hi Dennison,Scripture says you need to become like a child to enter the kingdom.
Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you,
Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.January 19, 2011 at 4:52 am#233745SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote Oh, but you MUST! NETNotes says it, so you MUST take those EXACT words as a real DEFINITION of “spirit”. So…………DO YOU? And if not, then how about you back off me about not accepting every single thing they say?
Diversive Exaggeration dont you think?Quote ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE………..RIGHT NOW! GO!
John 10
= )
This debate orginated from that debate.Quote D, does the context of Psalm 45:6 make that “elohim” God Almighty?
Yes why not?January 19, 2011 at 4:56 am#233747SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,08:12) SimplyForgiven,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote you keep on going in a endless cycle of new arguements that have nothing to do with the orginal arguements!
Hi Dennison,The world doesn't revolve around you, you need to address Mikes points as well.
There are others here (no names) who think the same way as well;
they also need to address the points others make as well.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Lol Ed J,
why do you jump in things that dont concern you?
why are you all up in the coolade and dont even know what the mix is?Ed, Mike said he didnt want to debate anymore, that he is done with it. so actualy you should be telling HIM that.
I cant respond to his points, if he doesnt want to debate anymore.and notice, take note of this Ed J.
notice how we are now in a NEW debate already, that he himself started with his questions without finsihing the other.
this is his diversion.
the “START OVER” tactic,
the “NEW GAME” or “RESTART” tactic of his, so he can distract everyone else from what has happen.Think ED, think.
January 19, 2011 at 5:04 am#233748Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,14:56) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,08:12) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,14:03) Quote you keep on going in a endless cycle of new arguements that have nothing to do with the orginal arguements!
Hi Dennison,The world doesn't revolve around you, you need to address Mikes points as well.
There are others here (no names) who think the same way as well;
they also need to address the points others make as well.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Lol Ed J,
why do you jump in things that dont concern you?
why are you all up in the coolade and dont even know what the mix is?Ed, Mike said he didnt want to debate anymore, that he is done with it. so actualy you should be telling HIM that.
I cant respond to his points, if he doesnt want to debate anymore.and notice, take note of this Ed J.
notice how we are now in a NEW debate already, that he himself started with his questions without finsihing the other.
this is his diversion.
the “START OVER” tactic,
the “NEW GAME” or “RESTART” tactic of his, so he can distract everyone else from what has happen.Think ED, think.
Hi D,Muchas gracias por responder a mi mensaje,
usted está mostrando signos de madurez ahora!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 19, 2011 at 5:10 am#233751SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,09:04) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,14:56) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,08:12) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,14:03) Quote you keep on going in a endless cycle of new arguements that have nothing to do with the orginal arguements!
Hi Dennison,The world doesn't revolve around you, you need to address Mikes points as well.
There are others here (no names) who think the same way as well;
they also need to address the points others make as well.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Lol Ed J,
why do you jump in things that dont concern you?
why are you all up in the coolade and dont even know what the mix is?Ed, Mike said he didnt want to debate anymore, that he is done with it. so actualy you should be telling HIM that.
I cant respond to his points, if he doesnt want to debate anymore.and notice, take note of this Ed J.
notice how we are now in a NEW debate already, that he himself started with his questions without finsihing the other.
this is his diversion.
the “START OVER” tactic,
the “NEW GAME” or “RESTART” tactic of his, so he can distract everyone else from what has happen.Think ED, think.
Hi D,Muchas gracias por responder a mi mensaje,
usted está mostrando signos de madurez ahora!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No te Preocupes,
Cuándo me hablas con respecto y como un hermano, te voy responder con el mismo respecto.January 19, 2011 at 5:23 am#233753Ed JParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,15:10) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,09:04) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,14:56) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 19 2011,08:12) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 19 2011,14:03) Quote you keep on going in a endless cycle of new arguements that have nothing to do with the orginal arguements!
Hi Dennison,The world doesn't revolve around you, you need to address Mikes points as well.
There are others here (no names) who think the same way as well;
they also need to address the points others make as well.Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)
Lol Ed J,
why do you jump in things that dont concern you?
why are you all up in the coolade and dont even know what the mix is?Ed, Mike said he didnt want to debate anymore, that he is done with it. so actualy you should be telling HIM that.
I cant respond to his points, if he doesnt want to debate anymore.and notice, take note of this Ed J.
notice how we are now in a NEW debate already, that he himself started with his questions without finsihing the other.
this is his diversion.
the “START OVER” tactic,
the “NEW GAME” or “RESTART” tactic of his, so he can distract everyone else from what has happen.Think ED, think.
Hi D,Muchas gracias por responder a mi mensaje,
usted está mostrando signos de madurez ahora!God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No te Preocupes,
Cuándo me hablas con respecto y como un hermano, te voy responder con el mismo respecto.
Hi D,Gracias! Hermano mucho amor!
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 19, 2011 at 7:26 am#233768Ed JParticipantQuote (francis @ Jan. 19 2011,06:57) Hello Mike… 11)… Here is another example from you…
Quote So anyone who ever claims Jesus is God Almighty based ONLY on the fact that he has been called by the title “god” is mistaken and speaking unscripturally. Doesn't this statement of yours open the possibility and chance that Jesus can be God Almighty when He is called by the word elohim… as long as it is not the ONLY thing the claim is based on?
Think about it Mike. Above, elohim can mean “god” and God. So if elohim is applied to Jesus, then because of the list of definitions you gave, the claim can be made that Jesus is God Almighty… if I supply other evidences to go along with the word elohim. Isn't that what you just said above? If not, then this only shows that we are having a major communication problem.
Hi Francis,It appears 'communication problems' are a common occurrence for you. Why is it
you blame me for them, and use it as an excuse to refuse to discuss your beliefs with me?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 19, 2011 at 3:44 pm#233784Kangaroo Jack Jr.ParticipantEd said to Francis;
Quote Why is it
you blame me for them, and use it as an excuse to refuse to discuss your beliefs with me?
Ed,I support Francis for refusing to discourse with you and I exhort Keith to do likewise. Maybe then you will go away.
Roo Jr.
January 19, 2011 at 3:57 pm#233785Ed JParticipantQuote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Jan. 20 2011,01:44) Ed said to Francis; Quote Why is it
you blame me for them, and use it as an excuse to refuse to discuss your beliefs with me?
Ed,I support Francis for refusing to discourse with you and I exhort Keith to do likewise. Maybe then you will go away.
Roo Jr.
Hi Jack,Why would I go away, when there's so much false doctrine needing to be burned up?
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro,
and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men,
and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
Do you want to hold onto religious false doctrines?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 19, 2011 at 5:51 pm#233788Kangaroo Jack Jr.ParticipantIstari wrote:
Quote You rightly say that Jesus is God's representative AND Man's representative! But it is unlikely that that was what you meant to say!
Jesus was not God's representative if He was not God. He had to be both God and man in order to be the representative of both God and man. Check out the dispute between Jacob and Laban. It illustrates that mediation involved according to Hebrew thought. Think like a Hebrew JA!Roo Jr.
January 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm#233789Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2011,19:48) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 19 2011,11:12)
EDSo you do it again. You didn't post my very last post to you. This seems dishonest and like you have something to hide.
As far as Ec 1:4 the word “Strong's H5769 – `owlam” does not always mean forever. The YLT has it…
`And this day hath become to you a memorial, and ye have kept it a feast to Jehovah to your generations; — a statute age-during (Strong's H5769 – `owlam); ye keep it a feast.
The following scriptures are proof that it doesn't always mean forever…
And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; “ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever (Strong's H5769 – `owlam) . Ex 12:14
So did the Old Covenant pass away and the New come in?
So shall the earth pass away by fire and there will be a New heavens and a New earth. 2 Peter 3:7, 10
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: “They shall perish“; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture “shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. Heb 1:10-12
WJ
Hi WJ,That doesn't mean God is going to destroy (according to WJ) the Earth to “Re-new” it.
Hi EdWait I thought the OT used the same word destroy? Thats right it did and it was destroyed by a great flood. But this time by fire that shall melt the elements with fervent heat and the heavens and the earth will pass away with a great noise being rolled up like a garment and there will be a “New Heavens and a New earth for the former heavens and earth have passed away and there will be no more sea. Do my words sound like the words in red above?
But ED says different.
Ed read this scripture again and tell me what you think…
And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: “They shall perish“; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a vesture “shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. Heb 1:10-12
The Greek word for “perish” is Strong's G622 – apollymi which is defined as…
1) to destroy a) to put out of the way entirely, abolish, put an end to ruin b) render useless c) to kill d) to declare that one must be put to death e) metaph. to devote or give over to eternal misery in hell f) to perish, to be lost, ruined, destroyed 2) to destroy a) to lose
Please explain O mighty one.
Blessings WJ
January 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm#233790IstariParticipantHey, look at my pretty colored blocks, great looking, eh!
JustAskin had some just like that but more. What happened to them?
How do you get them and what do they do?
Who gives them to you?
January 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm#233791Kangaroo Jack Jr.ParticipantWJ said to Mike:
Quote To percieve Jesus the “Image of the invisible God” as less than God is to have a “false image” of God and to me that is “Idolatry”.
Wow! Again I must bow to Keith's intellect.Roo
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