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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,07:04) How am I mocking?
By your “LOL” comment – that I obviously wasn't aware that the thread was about a “Trinitarian verse.”I was just giving you a little dose of your own medicine, WJ. You dish it out but have a hard time taking it. Whatever. It's not important anymore, and I'll try not to be critical on a personal level anymore with you. I'll try to stick to the post and subject at hand. Personal digs will be ignored.
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,09:14) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2007,09:09) Hi W,
Then who is the Son of God?
NHHe is YHWH in the flesh!
Believe the scriptures. They were written about him.
Jn 5:
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which *testify of me*.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.So many going to God without coming to Jesus!
Jesus is the Son of man, at least that's what He said. The Son of man full of God guided by God in every way He spoke what the father gave Him to say did what the Father told Him to do. Jesus, every step of the way had a choice to do His will or the Father's will.We are His brethren (having the Spirit) we also have a choice just as Jesus did to be guided in truth or listen to man's religion. Is the Trinity man's religion?
Jesus was the only one of His day to have the Holy Spirit which made Him the Son of God but He was also the Son of man. At Pentecost God's family began. More children were added all brethren of Jesus.
Being children of God then we are gods because of Jesus' sacrifice. You are your father's son of man. You should be your Father's son of Spirit.
Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
OR what are the above scriptures saying.
Hi Kenrch,
Certainly the earthly family began when Christ was conceived, but God had a heavenly family before Genesis [Jb38].Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,09:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,07:04) How am I mocking?
By your “LOL” comment – that I obviously wasn't aware that the thread was about a “Trinitarian verse.”I was just giving you a little dose of your own medicine, WJ. You dish it out but have a hard time taking it. Whatever. It's not important anymore, and I'll try not to be critical on a personal level anymore with you. I'll try to stick to the post and subject at hand. Personal digs will be ignored.
not3My arnt we touchy?
The “LOL” was not for you, it was for CO.
It wasnt meant to mock. It just seemed funny that CO mentioned the thread getting of track and on the trinity when matt 28:19 is a disputed Trinitarian verse.
Seems I cant talk to you not3 without offence!
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2007,09:52) Hi Kenrch,
Certainly the earthly family began when Christ was conceived, but God had a heavenly family before Genesis [Jb38].
Nick are the angelic beings born or created? Does it make a difference?WJ
“Confederacy”
Are these words voided from you vocabulary…..,A group of people may well of united for unlawful practices; by altering Matt 28:19?
Based on…their fear of not understanding the original quote… the foolishness of man deceives his own mind, as if gods still creating an end, having not ceased from his own works, to enter the rest on the seventh day?
They love to set Laws; even the cursed Law of the Mind that they cannot be questioned, and neither dose it enter the mind of the poor easily, that they incorrectly translated even deliberately, to cater for their knowledge, that they fear themselves, that they will be seen as one, not of understanding, pride?
Laws are made to control, and keep people within a boundary line, abuse to set at naught, is inflicted, to show others the penalty of grasping freedom,
What is by faith now, is turned into a cursed law of captivity by letter?
What Is your faith then that the letter you hold, as faithful and true, has then not been written in vain by the hand of the scribes? And by the grace of God, they have not been altered?
is that the faith and hope? letters that we have been delivered, consulting instructions on how to become the living and not the dead, baptism made a Law, received three in 1 by doing an action?
Every thought must be taken captive to God, even the letters written, wisdom, all scripture is profitable, even condeming its self?
HOW FAR DO YOU THINK Satan can go harvesting his own children?, God has not promised to remove him from our way, but that we should each have to over come his power and set up IniquityIsa 8:12Say ye not, A confederacy, to all [them to] whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid. Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and [let] him [be] your fear, and [let] him [be] your dread. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken. ¶ Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me [are] for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion. ¶ And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them. And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.
Quote (charity @ June 29 2007,11:28) WJ
“Confederacy”
Are these words voided from you vocabulary…..,A group of people may well of united for unlawful practices; by altering Matt 28:19?
Based on…their fear of not understanding the original quote… the foolishness of man deceives his own mind, as if gods still creating an end, having not ceased from his own works, to enter the rest on the seventh day?
They love to set Laws; even the cursed Law of the Mind that they cannot be questioned, and neither dose it enter the mind of the poor easily, that they incorrectly translated even deliberately, to cater for their knowledge, that they fear themselves, that they will be seen as one, not of understanding, pride?
Laws are made to control, and keep people within a boundary line, abuse to set at naught, is inflicted, to show others the penalty of grasping freedom,
What is by faith now, is turned into a cursed law of captivity by letter?
What Is your faith then that the letter you hold, as faithful and true, has then not been written in vain by the hand of the scribes? And by the grace of God, they have not been altered?
is that the faith and hope? letters that we have been delivered, consulting instructions on how to become the living and not the dead, baptism made a Law, received three in 1 by doing an action?
Every thought must be taken captive to God, even the letters written, wisdom, all scripture is profitable, even condeming its self?
HOW FAR DO YOU THINK Satan can go harvesting his own children?, God has not promised to remove him from our way, but that we should each have to over come his power and set up IniquityIsa 8:12Say ye not, A confederacy, to all [them to] whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid. Sanctify the LORD of hosts himself; and [let] him [be] your fear, and [let] him [be] your dread. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken. ¶ Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him. Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me [are] for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion. ¶ And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them. And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.
CharityI guess they are not in my vocabulary!
Because you make no sence to me!
I havnt quite understood why you attack my belief concerning the Son of God when it is you who believe he is “Michael the angel” in the flesh.
Quote (kenrch @ June 29 2007,11:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2007,09:52) Hi Kenrch,
Certainly the earthly family began when Christ was conceived, but God had a heavenly family before Genesis [Jb38].
Nick are the angelic beings born or created? Does it make a difference?
Hi k,
Does scripture say?WJ….Your mind is only tracking to defend one subject only, 24/7,
And this thread is not about what I believe either,
WHY DO YOU CONSISTANTLY ACUSE TO PROVOCK PEOPLE INTO DEFENDING WHAT THEY BELEIVE? OR EVEN TO DEFEND THE DENOMINATION THEY HOLD? all of us are subject to vanity, wrong thinking, why provock this flaming with the heat of pride?
but how! could WE have been possibly deceived being lead off into the forest following after the way of those that have slashed and made pathways in time past. By… Seeking unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? and not by earhtly knowledge,
fear God!Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2007,11:46) Quote (kenrch @ June 29 2007,11:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2007,09:52) Hi Kenrch,
Certainly the earthly family began when Christ was conceived, but God had a heavenly family before Genesis [Jb38].
Nick are the angelic beings born or created? Does it make a difference?
Hi k,
Does scripture say?
Oh, I see, you don't know.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,10:17) Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,09:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,07:04) How am I mocking?
By your “LOL” comment – that I obviously wasn't aware that the thread was about a “Trinitarian verse.”I was just giving you a little dose of your own medicine, WJ. You dish it out but have a hard time taking it. Whatever. It's not important anymore, and I'll try not to be critical on a personal level anymore with you. I'll try to stick to the post and subject at hand. Personal digs will be ignored.
not3My arnt we touchy?
The “LOL” was not for you, it was for CO.
It wasnt meant to mock. It just seemed funny that CO mentioned the thread getting of track and on the trinity when matt 28:19 is a disputed Trinitarian verse.
Seems I cant talk to you not3 without offence!
You're right, WJ. I took a walk in the rain today and you are right – I'm touchy today. I apologize, brother? Forgive me?I'm a bit frustrated today with the fact that there are so many beliefs in the world – and on this site! We can't even agree on WHAT Jesus is. It's disheartening to me sometimes…… But that is no reason to lash out on you. I guess because I see you being harsh with Nick and t8, that gives me the right to be harsh with you sometimes and that shouldn't be.
Quote (charity @ June 29 2007,12:13) WJ….Your mind is only tracking to defend one subject only, 24/7,
And this thread is not about what I believe either,
WHY DO YOU CONSISTANTLY ACUSE TO PROVOCK PEOPLE INTO DEFENDING WHAT THEY BELEIVE? OR EVEN TO DEFEND THE DENOMINATION THEY HOLD?
but how! could WE have been possibly deceived being lead off into the forest following after the way of those that have slashed and made pathways in time past. By… Seeking unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? and not by earhtly knowledge,
fear God!
CharityI am guilty.
I do seek to defend the truth about my Lord and God!
24/7.
I am passionatly in love with Jesus!
I confess to my crime!
I honor him as I honor my Father as God!
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,12:20) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,10:17) Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,09:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,07:04) How am I mocking?
By your “LOL” comment – that I obviously wasn't aware that the thread was about a “Trinitarian verse.”I was just giving you a little dose of your own medicine, WJ. You dish it out but have a hard time taking it. Whatever. It's not important anymore, and I'll try not to be critical on a personal level anymore with you. I'll try to stick to the post and subject at hand. Personal digs will be ignored.
not3My arnt we touchy?
The “LOL” was not for you, it was for CO.
It wasnt meant to mock. It just seemed funny that CO mentioned the thread getting of track and on the trinity when matt 28:19 is a disputed Trinitarian verse.
Seems I cant talk to you not3 without offence!
You're right, WJ. I took a walk in the rain today and you are right – I'm touchy today. I apologize, brother? Forgive me?I'm a bit frustrated today with the fact that there are so many beliefs in the world – and on this site! We can't even agree on WHAT Jesus is. It's disheartening to me sometimes…… But that is no reason to lash out on you. I guess because I see you being harsh with Nick and t8, that gives me the right to be harsh with you sometimes and that shouldn't be.
This is who Jesus is…The Son of God
2nd part of the trinity of God
The Messiah
The Good Shepard
One without sin
The greatest example that mankind should follow.If you can think of any more then just respond, ok?
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,12:23) I do seek to defend the truth about my Lord and God!
This is what I mean when I say Trinitarian use of language can be confusing……..Now in your quote above, you say “….the truth about my Lord and God!” But who are you talking about here? Are you like Thomas and using both terms to speak of JESUS? Or is the God you speak of here – the Father?
Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,12:20) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,10:17) Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,09:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,07:04) How am I mocking?
By your “LOL” comment – that I obviously wasn't aware that the thread was about a “Trinitarian verse.”I was just giving you a little dose of your own medicine, WJ. You dish it out but have a hard time taking it. Whatever. It's not important anymore, and I'll try not to be critical on a personal level anymore with you. I'll try to stick to the post and subject at hand. Personal digs will be ignored.
not3My arnt we touchy?
The “LOL” was not for you, it was for CO.
It wasnt meant to mock. It just seemed funny that CO mentioned the thread getting of track and on the trinity when matt 28:19 is a disputed Trinitarian verse.
Seems I cant talk to you not3 without offence!
You're right, WJ. I took a walk in the rain today and you are right – I'm touchy today. I apologize, brother? Forgive me?I'm a bit frustrated today with the fact that there are so many beliefs in the world – and on this site! We can't even agree on WHAT Jesus is. It's disheartening to me sometimes…… But that is no reason to lash out on you. I guess because I see you being harsh with Nick and t8, that gives me the right to be harsh with you sometimes and that shouldn't be.
Not3I look at you different than t8 and NH.
They have been defending this sight for years, which I believe is full of false teaching.
I will be straight forward and maybe harsh with them as they are with me.
It is a serious thing to teach falsly. And of course I believe as they do about me that they are leading people astray.
The truth really dosnt need our defence.
But I believe for now the Lord has me here for a purpose!
When he says leave. I will.
Anyway, I wish you the very best and appreciate your zeal and desire to know the truth!
Blessings!
Keith
Quote (acertainchap @ June 29 2007,12:30) Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,12:20) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,10:17) Quote (Not3in1 @ June 29 2007,09:27) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 29 2007,07:04) How am I mocking?
By your “LOL” comment – that I obviously wasn't aware that the thread was about a “Trinitarian verse.”I was just giving you a little dose of your own medicine, WJ. You dish it out but have a hard time taking it. Whatever. It's not important anymore, and I'll try not to be critical on a personal level anymore with you. I'll try to stick to the post and subject at hand. Personal digs will be ignored.
not3My arnt we touchy?
The “LOL” was not for you, it was for CO.
It wasnt meant to mock. It just seemed funny that CO mentioned the thread getting of track and on the trinity when matt 28:19 is a disputed Trinitarian verse.
Seems I cant talk to you not3 without offence!
You're right, WJ. I took a walk in the rain today and you are right – I'm touchy today. I apologize, brother? Forgive me?I'm a bit frustrated today with the fact that there are so many beliefs in the world – and on this site! We can't even agree on WHAT Jesus is. It's disheartening to me sometimes…… But that is no reason to lash out on you. I guess because I see you being harsh with Nick and t8, that gives me the right to be harsh with you sometimes and that shouldn't be.
This is who Jesus is…The Son of God
2nd part of the trinity of God
The Messiah
The Good Shepard
One without sin
The greatest example that mankind should follow.If you can think of any more then just respond, ok?
We would be here all night, Chap! Ha!Here's some:
1. Michael the archangel
2. Preexistent spirit son
3. Word/Logos
4. David reincarnated and we could go on and on.It's too frustrating to me to add anymore, I'm sorry.
I love your Avatar though!
Hi W,
You say
'The truth really dosnt need our defence”
Jesus said
” My Word is truth”Stay with the Word.
Abhor additions like trinityHi ACC,
, You say
“The Son of God
2nd part of the trinity of God
The Messiah
The Good Shepard
One without sin
The greatest example that mankind should follow.”Guess which one is not written.
Why add?Nick, I agree. When you read the Word day in, and day out, you begin to “hear” things that do not sound scriptural such as:
God the Son
Second person, (third person of God)
Incarnation
Preexistence
Dual nature
Fully Man and Fully God
God the Holy Spirit
Word God
And the list could go on and on……Quote (Not3in1 @ June 30 2007,05:04) Nick, I agree. When you read the Word day in, and day out, you begin to “hear” things that do not sound scriptural such as: God the Son
Second person, (third person of God)
Incarnation
Preexistence
Dual nature
Fully Man and Fully God
God the Holy Spirit
Word God
And the list could go on and on……
Hi Not3in1,I don't think that you begin to hear any of those things from reading the word. You hear them from people who misinterpret the word.
Tim
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