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Quote (t8 @ Mar. 01 2013,22:19) Interesting points made pertaining to the Mark of the Beast.
The mark of the beast has something to do with buying and selling. something to do with survival, and worship.
Worship the beast,or you die of hunger.True believers will refuse, and be considered terrorists.
Defying the new system.The beast is todays system of government,and a new one is coming.
The 10 kings are the rulers,and the false prophet will be the chief,with all the powers of satan.The woman is the system of the world,based on wealth,and greed,and the material,this is now.
But she will be made naked,and they(the 10) will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.(war).rev.17:16.This is in process now, the bankrupting of the whole system.
To be replaced by a new system,and that will be total control of the population,using the mark of the new beast,the 8th beast,wich came out of the 7th.The 7th is todays beast,the 8th is coming soon.
The NWO. the world ruled by one man,the son of perdition.
It is this beast, and this man, that will be cast in the fire at the coming.wakeup.
all
the Mark of the beast his what
lets go in history first ;understand that it is the mark of the image of the beast (head that was wounded but heals )from the previous beast that came out of the sea ,this beast come lather and comes out of the earth;
Da 3:4 Then the herald loudly proclaimed, “This is what you are commanded to do, O peoples, nations and men of every language:
Da 3:5 As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipes and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.
Da 3:6 Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace.”
Da 3:7 Therefore, as soon as they heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp and all kinds of music, all the peoples, nations and men of every language fell down and worshiped the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.what happen to those who refuses ???Da 3:8 At this time some astrologers came forward and denounced the Jews.
Da 3:10 You have issued a decree, O king, that everyone who hears the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipes and all kinds of music must fall down and worship the image of gold,
Da 3:11 and that whoever does not fall down and worship will be thrown into a blazing furnace.
Da 3:12 But there are “SOME “Jews whom you have set over the affairs of the province of Babylon—Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego—who pay no attention to you, O king. They neither serve your gods nor worship the image of gold you have set up.”THIS WAS NOT ALL JEWS THAT NOT BEND DOWN TO THE STATUE OF GOLD ONLY A SELECT ONES ,
SO IN THIS CASE WHAT WOULD BE THE “MARK ”
IT WOULD BE THE ACTION OF REFUSAL TO GO AGAINST GOD ALMIGHTY ,BUT THAT WOULD RATHER GIVE THE THE SEAL OF GOD ,RIGHT,YES ,SO BY ACCEPTING TO KNEEL DOWN TO THE IMAGE IT WOULD MARK YOU OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST RIGHT YES we also have to understand that the beast has been here on earth sins EGYPT ,let see what was the recommendation after they (Israelite) were to enter the promise land ,this would be similar to a gentile to become a Christian and see through faith the new kingdom of Christ ;
Dt 18:9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there.
but what was it what Christ said
;JN 17:13 “But now I come to You; and these things I speak in the world so that they may have My joy made full in themselves.
JN 17:14 “I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
JN 17:15 “I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.
JN 17:16 “ They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
JN 17:17 “ Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.so the world of men that is under Satan powers are deceived by him ,but by being not part of the world WE WOULD NOT BE STAMPED BY THE MARK OF THE WORLD BEASTS
REV 14:9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand
WHAT HAPPEN TO THOSE THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BEAST MARK
REV 14:12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
REV 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, “Write, ‘ Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them.”REV 15:2 And I saw something like a sea of glass mixed with fire, and those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and the number of his name, standing on the sea of glass, holding harps of God.
REV 18:4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “ Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;
REV 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;
REV 7:10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying,
“ Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”REV 7:13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?”
REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
REV 7:15 “For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.MT 6:24 “ No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
LK 16:13 “ No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.”
EITHER WE RECEIVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST FOR SUBMIT TO HER ,OR WE RECEIVE THE SEAL OF GOD AND THE LAMB FOR HAVING SUBMIT OUR SELVES TO THEM
Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 17 2013,15:17) all the Mark of the beast his what
lets go in history first ;understand that it is the mark of the image of the beast (head that was wounded but heals )from the previous beast that came out of the sea ,this beast come lather and comes out of the earth;
Da 3:4 Then the herald loudly proclaimed, “This is what you are commanded to do, O peoples, nations and men of every language:
Da 3:5 As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipes and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.
Da 3:6 Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace.”
Da 3:7 Therefore, as soon as they heard the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp and all kinds of music, all the peoples, nations and men of every language fell down and worshiped the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.what happen to those who refuses ???Da 3:8 At this time some astrologers came forward and denounced the Jews.
Da 3:10 You have issued a decree, O king, that everyone who hears the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipes and all kinds of music must fall down and worship the image of gold,
Da 3:11 and that whoever does not fall down and worship will be thrown into a blazing furnace.
Da 3:12 But there are “SOME “Jews whom you have set over the affairs of the province of Babylon—Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego—who pay no attention to you, O king. They neither serve your gods nor worship the image of gold you have set up.”THIS WAS NOT ALL JEWS THAT NOT BEND DOWN TO THE STATUE OF GOLD ONLY A SELECT ONES ,
SO IN THIS CASE WHAT WOULD BE THE “MARK ”
IT WOULD BE THE ACTION OF REFUSAL TO GO AGAINST GOD ALMIGHTY ,BUT THAT WOULD RATHER GIVE THE THE SEAL OF GOD ,RIGHT,YES ,SO BY ACCEPTING TO KNEEL DOWN TO THE IMAGE IT WOULD MARK YOU OF THE MARK OF THE BEAST RIGHT YES we also have to understand that the beast has been here on earth sins EGYPT ,let see what was the recommendation after they (Israelite) were to enter the promise land ,this would be similar to a gentile to become a Christian and see through faith the new kingdom of Christ ;
Dt 18:9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there.
but what was it what Christ said
;JN 17:13 “But now I come to You; and these things I speak in the world so that they may have My joy made full in themselves.
JN 17:14 “I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
JN 17:15 “I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.
JN 17:16 “ They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
JN 17:17 “ Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.so the world of men that is under Satan powers are deceived by him ,but by being not part of the world WE WOULD NOT BE STAMPED BY THE MARK OF THE WORLD BEASTS
REV 14:9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand
WHAT HAPPEN TO THOSE THAT DO NOT HAVE THE BEAST MARK
REV 14:12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
REV 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, “Write, ‘ Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them.”REV 15:2 And I saw something like a sea of glass mixed with fire, and those who had been victorious over the beast and his image and the number of his name, standing on the sea of glass, holding harps of God.
REV 18:4 I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “ Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;
REV 7:9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands;
REV 7:10 and they cry out with a loud voice, saying,
“ Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”REV 7:13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “These who are clothed in the white robes, who are they, and where have they come from?”
REV 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
REV 7:15 “For this reason, they are before the throne of God; and they serve Him day and night in His temple; and He who sits on the throne will spread His tabernacle over them.MT 6:24 “ No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
LK 16:13 “ No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.”
EITHER WE RECEIVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST FOR SUBMIT TO HER ,OR WE RECEIVE THE SEAL OF GOD AND THE LAMB FOR HAVING SUBMIT OUR SELVES TO THEM
Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Jas 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
Terra.If one is ready to sell his inheritance for bread,
one will take the mark,and agree to worship satan through the false prophet.Gods seal is only for the special elect;the 144000.
The rest of the christians must be put through the fire
For the cleansing,and then given white robes.
Then also resurrected.Christians with the mark of the beast,will be resurrected in the 2nd resurrection,and judged,by the books.
Christians need to get rid of the spirit of the world, and adopt the spirit of Zion.
wakeup.
wup
Quote The rest of the christians must be put through the fire what is the fire mean???
Da 3:17 If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to save us from it, and he will rescue us from your hand, O king.
Da 3:18 But even if he does not, we want you to know, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.”this is not only for the 144000 but for ALL believers that have hope in Christ sacrifice
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2013,14:52) wup Quote The rest of the christians must be put through the fire what is the fire mean???
Da 3:17 If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to save us from it, and he will rescue us from your hand, O king.
Da 3:18 But even if he does not, we want you to know, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.”this is not only for the 144000 but for ALL believers that have hope in Christ sacrifice
Terra.Put through the fire meaning go through the great tribulation.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 18 2013,14:32) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2013,14:52) wup Quote The rest of the christians must be put through the fire what is the fire mean???
Da 3:17 If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to save us from it, and he will rescue us from your hand, O king.
Da 3:18 But even if he does not, we want you to know, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.”this is not only for the 144000 but for ALL believers that have hope in Christ sacrifice
Terra.Put through the fire meaning go through the great tribulation.
wakeup.
Is that what those scriptures are saying?Fire = tribulation you say and what it mean TRIBULATION
Terra.
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of ***ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE***, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.(JESUS TRIBULATIONS,HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: IS THIS NOT A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE? ( JOSHUA HAS GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATIONS OF ISRAEL AND SAVED).(HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2013,20:33) Terra. Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of ***ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE***, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.(JESUS TRIBULATIONS,HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: IS THIS NOT A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE? ( JOSHUA HAS GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATIONS OF ISRAEL AND SAVED).(HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
wakeup.
SO YOU DO NOT KNOW? RIGHT ?Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,09:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2013,20:33) Terra. Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of ***ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE***, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.(JESUS TRIBULATIONS,HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: IS THIS NOT A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE? ( JOSHUA HAS GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATIONS OF ISRAEL AND SAVED).(HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
wakeup.
SO YOU DO NOT KNOW? RIGHT ?
Terra.Open thine eyes,I have just given you the answer.
Gone through the fire=gone through tribulation.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2013,06:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,09:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2013,20:33) Terra. Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of ***ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE***, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.(JESUS TRIBULATIONS,HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: IS THIS NOT A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE? ( JOSHUA HAS GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATIONS OF ISRAEL AND SAVED).(HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
wakeup.
SO YOU DO NOT KNOW? RIGHT ?
Terra.Open thine eyes,I have just given you the answer.
Gone through the fire=gone through tribulation.wakeup.
Fire = tribulation you say, and what does it mean -TRIBULATION???Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,13:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2013,06:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,09:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2013,20:33) Terra. Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of ***ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE***, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.(JESUS TRIBULATIONS,HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: IS THIS NOT A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE? ( JOSHUA HAS GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATIONS OF ISRAEL AND SAVED).(HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
wakeup.
SO YOU DO NOT KNOW? RIGHT ?
Terra.Open thine eyes,I have just given you the answer.
Gone through the fire=gone through tribulation.wakeup.
Fire = tribulation you say, and what does it mean -TRIBULATION???
Terra.Tribulatuon=persecution.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2013,08:24) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,13:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2013,06:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,09:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2013,20:33) Terra. Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of ***ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE***, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.(JESUS TRIBULATIONS,HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: IS THIS NOT A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE? ( JOSHUA HAS GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATIONS OF ISRAEL AND SAVED).(HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
wakeup.
SO YOU DO NOT KNOW? RIGHT ?
Terra.Open thine eyes,I have just given you the answer.
Gone through the fire=gone through tribulation.wakeup.
Fire = tribulation you say, and what does it mean -TRIBULATION???
Terra.Tribulatuon=persecution.
wakeup.
wupQuote Tribulatuon=persecution. show me the scripture that exactly says that
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,13:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2013,08:24) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,13:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2013,06:43) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,09:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 19 2013,20:33) Terra. Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of ***ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE***, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.(JESUS TRIBULATIONS,HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
Zechariah 3:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: IS THIS NOT A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE? ( JOSHUA HAS GONE THROUGH THE TRIBULATIONS OF ISRAEL AND SAVED).(HE HAS GONE THROUGH THE FIRE).
wakeup.
SO YOU DO NOT KNOW? RIGHT ?
Terra.Open thine eyes,I have just given you the answer.
Gone through the fire=gone through tribulation.wakeup.
Fire = tribulation you say, and what does it mean -TRIBULATION???
Terra.Tribulatuon=persecution.
wakeup.
wupQuote Tribulatuon=persecution. show me the scripture that exactly says that
Terra.First ,can you explain rev3:18.
wakeup.
The fire or tribulation are the test we go through live as a true Christian ,Christ. As the model and also the apostles,
It is choosing faith over the world on a daily base until we pass away, this is the way to overcome the world and stay out of it,
Being rich in godly deeds ,
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,17:02) The fire or tribulation are the test we go through live as a true Christian ,Christ. As the model and also the apostles, It is choosing faith over the world on a daily base until we pass away, this is the way to overcome the world and stay out of it,
Being rich in godly deeds ,
Terra.Is to live in Christ daily tribulation,or spiritual peace?
Not to belong to babylon,and to be out of the spirit of babylon,is picking up the cross,but not tribulation.
Because the world will hate you.When one is persecuted,and killed for Christ; this is tribulation.
When one is put in jail for Christ;this is tribulation.Joshua,went through tribulation(through the fire),but he was saved. Zech.3:2. IS NOT THIS A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 20 2013,16:14) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 20 2013,17:02) The fire or tribulation are the test we go through live as a true Christian ,Christ. As the model and also the apostles, It is choosing faith over the world on a daily base until we pass away, this is the way to overcome the world and stay out of it,
Being rich in godly deeds ,
Terra.Is to live in Christ daily tribulation,or spiritual peace?
Not to belong to babylon,and to be out of the spirit of babylon,is picking up the cross,but not tribulation.
Because the world will hate you.When one is persecuted,and killed for Christ; this is tribulation.
When one is put in jail for Christ;this is tribulation.Joshua,went through tribulation(through the fire),but he was saved. Zech.3:2. IS NOT THIS A BRAND PLUCKED OUT OF THE FIRE?
wakeup.
MT 10:25 “It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher, and the slave like his master. If they have called the head of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign the members of his household!MT 13:52 And Jesus said to them, “Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household, who brings out of his treasure things new and old.”
and what peace do you talking about
LK 12:52 for from now on five members in one household will be divided, three against two and two against three.
MT 10:36 and A MAN'S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
there have been many persecutions during history,and they are still going on today ,but not in every country ,FIRE AND TRIBULATION ARE THE HARDSHIP THAT A TRUE CHRISTIAN AS TO GO THROUGH IN HIS LIVE TO BE STAYING FAITHFUL',
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.Do you now understand how it is that we either receive the mark of the beast or the seal of approval of God,
It is in our choice of doing or not doing God's will ,
Only two choices ; the beast of the world or the sacrifice and grace of God,
It is OUR choice
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 23 2013,19:05) Do you now understand how it is that we either receive the mark of the beast or the seal of approval of God, It is in our choice of doing or not doing God's will ,
Only two choices ; the beast of the world or the sacrifice and grace of God,
It is OUR choice
Terra.It is our choice,worship God, and loose your head, or worship satan and have life for a short while.
wakeup.
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