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Pierre,
I used to hold grudges against people and fight. Often I wouldn't say anything but I felt angry. After my angry outbursts I would end up feeling really bad…I knew I had done wrong, and would walk around feeling embarrassed at it all. So I learnt with Gods help to not put myself in that situation. I get on with everyone who I meet stranger or not. I found though…this forum…can be really testing at times for some reason, compared to normal life. I guess its because we are hidden in a way behind a keyboard… ….and we are talking about spiritual things. And we know that to be a good Christian we should be humble and kind and caring and make each other feel good and build each other up. But that doesn't seem to happen sometimes here and it feels worse than real life does. I think everyone here needs to look carefully at the way they are acting.
Hi Karmari,
Quote I found though…this forum…can be really testing at times for some reason, compared to normal life.
That's just what it is “a test”. My mother sometimes says to me “Maybe the Lord is testing you?” when hardships have come my way in life. I have found if I can “keep my mind in christ” as it were, I do allright. Here at these forums there are people who very strongly believe that their own personal world view of what you have to believe and what it means to be a christion is the only true view. I probably have some of these issues myself, however, keeping an open heart and mind to Christ, God and the Holy Spirit and doing unto others as I would have them do unto me helps. You are expected to have a good amount of scriptural knowledge here. I have learned alot about that here. Yours' is an accurate discernment in my humble opinion. The impression I get is that your'e “nice in Jesus” and I mean that in a good way. Take care.
Love and Respect,
WispringQuote (kerwin @ Mar. 24 2011,15:31) To all, 1 Corinthians 13(NIV)
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
This is how you are to treat your enemies.
Kerwin: If you love everybody, who could be your enemy?I happen to agree with your description of love(the Bible description) and I walk in love/God to the best of my ability. In doing so I cannot condemn anyone for anything. I cannot hold anything against anyone. Actually there is no enemy to love so I can have no enemy!! I can have no darkness in me at all. I cannot see evil or look upon it. I can have no part in sin. I believe this is what we are. I believe this is what Jesus came to make us. He created us with his Fathers love through spirit words. God painted love in our hearts through Jesus by words of spirit. IMO, TK
To all: It seems we are again trying to make another “law”. The “law of love”! Love is not a law and you cannot command love. That is mistranslation of what Jesus said. He said this is my commandment as it was translated but what he was really saying was, this is my suggestion or prescription for life, love as he loved us. Love is not an effort and love is not a commandment or an order. Love is always given, it cannot be demanded. Love is a gift given to another help them in any way. If you help or do good to someone you have loved them. If you don't help them you did not love at that time. IT IS NOT A SIN, you just didn't apply love in that situation.
The more love you administer to others and the world the better you feel. The better feelings begin to draw to you more like feelings of higher frequency thoughts and more and more as we grow in love. Perfected love cast out all fear. Why? Because you have loved all and have no enemies. You walk in the feeling of bliss and the power of love becomes the same power that worketh in Jesus. The Father is the love, he doeth the work. How incredibly exciting to know that power is within and will flow freely as we exercise our Fathers love to the world.
First see your vessel as cleansed, purified, sinless, and made perfect by Gods words through Jesus. JUST BELIEVING no works to get.
Also I hear people say they fall short. You cannot fall short. You are what you are by God. If you give Gods love to the world you benefit. If you don't give love it profits you nothing. If you judge yourself as now a sinner or you stand judged or any form of condemnation you begin to cut off the love and abundant life declines toward death. IMO, TK
Hi Tim,
No law. Just discussing the love your enemy teaching and how to apply it practically in day to day life. Maybe one day because of time constraints the the schedule of events you have planned for that day isn't going so well and becomes like unto an enemy to you and you look at the problems of re-scheduling through a mind of love and positivity instead of frustration and anger and the solution presents itself…..stuff like that.With Love and Respect,
WispringTK
Quote To all: It seems we are again trying to make another “law”. The “law of love”! Love is not a law and you cannot command love Jesus said ;if you love me you will obey me;some of us have called the will of God there law ,this is in it self not a law but a commitment ,
but wen it is in full practice then it is no longer a law or a commitment, it now is a way of live.a way that gives live from God.
Pierre
To all,
Some think that love your enemy means to aid and abet the criminals before, during, or after the fact. God disagrees as he states about the wicked.
Psalms 50(NIV)
18 When you see a thief, you join with him;
you throw in your lot with adulterers.Be careful in showing love to your enemy that you do not aid and abet him in his wickedness because if you do you will be judged to have taken part.
God is forgiven but scripture states that one must repent before God will forgive them. That is why Jesus teaches “repent or perish”.
Hi Pierre,
Quote but wen it is in full practice then it is no longer a law or a commitment, it now is a way of live.a way that gives live from God
are you saying in English that I fully understand:Quote but, when it is fully practiced, then, it is no longer a law or a commandment. It now becomes a way of life. A way that gives life from God
If so, then, I would have to agree with you from the heart, that this is a bible truth.With Love and Respect,
Wispring
p.s. By the way, I learned how to use Blender, a free 3-dimensional graphics modelling and animation computer program from on-line tutorials. Tutorials written by people from European countries who spoke english as a second language. It wasn't easy, but, it was doable!Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 26 2011,19:44) To all, Some think that love your enemy means to aid and abet the criminals before, during, or after the fact. God disagrees as he states about the wicked.
Psalms 50(NIV)
18 When you see a thief, you join with him;
you throw in your lot with adulterers.Be careful in showing love to your enemy that you do not aid and abet him in his wickedness because if you do you will be judged to have taken part.
God is forgiven but scripture states that one must repent before God will forgive them. That is why Jesus teaches “repent or perish”.
Kerwin, I agree. Thats like standing by and doing nothing when a child is being picked on by a pack of bullies.There was a man here, and a woman (a stranger) was being attacked down an alleyway with a knife, and he went to help her, and he was stabbed (to death). The Woman lived.
He was a Christian Man too.
Quote (karmarie @ Mar. 26 2011,14:32) Greater love hath no man, than he who lay's down his life for another.
That is a form of love but I was thinking of those who seek go easy on criminals who have not repented of their actions.It is simmiler to a battered person who believes they must “forgive” their batterer instead of taking action to escape the abuse.
We seem to have a situation with this in certain cultures and so as individuals from those cultures.
Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 27 2011,02:23) Hi Pierre, Quote but wen it is in full practice then it is no longer a law or a commitment, it now is a way of live.a way that gives live from God
are you saying in English that I fully understand:Quote but, when it is fully practiced, then, it is no longer a law or a commandment. It now becomes a way of life. A way that gives life from God
If so, then, I would have to agree with you from the heart, that this is a bible truth.With Love and Respect,
Wispring
p.s. By the way, I learned how to use Blender, a free 3-dimensional graphics modelling and animation computer program from on-line tutorials. Tutorials written by people from European countries who spoke english as a second language. It wasn't easy, but, it was doable!
wispringyes that's exactly what i meant,
Pierre
Hi Everyone,
I believe one can understand an enemy, whatever that may be, by discerning it with “eyes,heart,mind of love”, and in doing so find a God given way of dealing with said enemy.
With Love and Respect,
Wispring'Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.'
all
we have to practice the love of God just as he does to us;
scriptures says he make it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous ,
so we have to show the same approach to both ,the one we like and the ones we do not,preach to all of them,and show them the same respect as you would for yourself,this does not mean to go and make them rich and help them to kill more people .
Pierre
all
the love of God is that he did not destroyed us all but let us live and give us all the grace of redemption trough Christ,
this understanding would or should move us all toward God will ,
Pierre
And it's good to have you here, I like your posts.
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