Let's reason together

[bodhitharta]

Ending the sad scare tactics and finding Love through truth

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Very good bod, I cant watch it though I'm on dial up, whats it about ?

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Three Faiths ONE GOD: Praise God all you people.

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Ephesians 4:

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5one Lord, ONE FAITH, one baptism,

THAT THERE IS “ONE GOD” IN THAT WE AGREE!!

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Revelation 13:

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11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he hadTWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB(Looks like the real thing), and HE SPOKE AS A DRAGON.(Speaking as a dragon, he is a liar and truth is not in him) 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him; and he causeth the earth and them that dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast, saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword and lived.

There is “ONLY ONE WAY TO BE RECONCILED TO GOD” and that is through “THE LORD YASHUA”.

To reason with you will be to allow you to decieve those who believe you, and cause them not to be saved.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Revelation 13: Quote 11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he hadTWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB(Looks like the real thing), and HE SPOKE AS A DRAGON.(Speaking as a dragon, he is a liar and truth is not in him)     12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him; and he causeth the earth and them that dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.     13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.     14And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast, saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword and lived. There is “ONLY ONE WAY TO BE RECONCILED TO GOD” and that is through “THE LORD YASHUA”. To reason with you will be to allow you to decieve those who believe you, and cause them not to be saved. Love in Christ, Marty

First of all thank you for posting in this thread.

Now, in regards to your statement about being reconciled to God what do you make of this scripture?

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Hebrews 11:5-7

I ask you how could Moses, David, Noah and many others get so close to God and even Abraham being called the very griend of God without being reconciled to God in the first place?

When we are being reasonable and diligently seeking the Lord do you not believe that God will reward that person for seeking the truth of God? If it were not so why would Jesus tell you to Knock and to seek. If he was the only way what reason is there to knock or seek anymore after you believe that?

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Quote (942767 @ Oct. 12 2010,13:27) Revelation 13: Quote 11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he hadTWO HORNS LIKE A LAMB(Looks like the real thing), and HE SPOKE AS A DRAGON.(Speaking as a dragon, he is a liar and truth is not in him)     12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him; and he causeth the earth and them that dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.     13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.     14And he deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast, saying to them that dwell on the earth that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword and lived. There is “ONLY ONE WAY TO BE RECONCILED TO GOD” and that is through “THE LORD YASHUA”. To reason with you will be to allow you to decieve those who believe you, and cause them not to be saved. Love in Christ, Marty First of all thank you for posting in this thread. Now, in regards to your statement about being reconciled to God what do you make of this scripture? But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Hebrews 11:5-7 I ask you how could Moses, David, Noah and many others get so close to God and even Abraham being called the very griend of God without being reconciled to God in the first place? When we are being reasonable and diligently seeking the Lord do you not believe that God will reward that person for seeking the truth of God? If it were not so why would Jesus tell you to Knock and to seek. If he was the only way what reason is there to knock or seek anymore after you believe that?

“Faith” is believing “God's Word” which states:

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John 3:16-18 (21st Century King James Version) 16″For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18″He that believeth in Him is not condemned; but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God

All those in the OT who were obeying God are part of the body of Christ, and will be raised from the dead with a spiritual body when the Lord comes for the church.

The blood of Jesus is the propitiation for the sins of all who will be reconciled to God.

When you believe God's testimony regarding what he has done for all of humanity in the person of Jesus Christ, you will find him.

It is good that you are diligently seeking him.

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Revelation 21 (King James Version) Revelation 21 1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. 6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. 8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 9And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. 10And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: 13On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. 15And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. 16And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. 17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. 18And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. 19And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; 20The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. 21And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass. 22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. 23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. 24And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. 25And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life

[bodhitharta]

I've already found God and All his prophets and Jesus Christ but you may have shed light on what
you understand yourself because you said:

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All those in the OT who were obeying God are part of the body of Christ

If Obeying God in one period of time means one thing then obeying God in any other time would have the same meaning:

And the people said unto Joshua, The LORD our God will we serve, and his voice will we obey.

We were always to listen to whomever God has sent, not just Jesus according to the scriptures and not
only that God so loved the world that he sent all the prophets as well and whoever believed in them did not perish either

Thou shalt therefore obey the voice of the LORD thy God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day.
Deuteronomy 27:9-11
Joshua 24:23-25

But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
Exodus 23:21-23

And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
1 Samuel 15:21-23

Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.
Isaiah 50:9-11

Jeremiah 7:22-24 (King James Version)
22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
24But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward.

Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.
Daniel 9:9-11

So as I have shown you here God has always sent his servants the Prophets to express HIS will and Jesus said this:

As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
John 9:4-6

If God had stopped sending others after Jesus you would have a point but Jesus himself sent his own disciples to preach about the Kingdom of God and Paul went to preach about the Gospel of Jesus Chist to the gentiles which as reported:

Psalm 2:7-9 (King James Version)
7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Now, hundreds of years later in the middle east you had the Arabs with over 360 Idols in the Kaba and rampent polytheism
and you believe that God would not send someone to fulfill his will? even though God siad:

For they served idols, whereof the LORD had said unto them, Ye shall not do this thing.
2 Kings 17:11-13

For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens.
1 Chronicles 16:25-27

So Muhammad destoyed all their Idols and you say this was not sent from God Almighty?

And the idols he shall utterly abolish.
Isaiah 2:17-19

Muhammad brought Monotheism to All the people in that region a command given to the world that Moses gave to Israel

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deuteronomy 6:3-5

So Muhammad said:

And your Allah is one Allah. There is no God but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #163)

and you don't believe God sent Muhammad when Muhammad says this:

Allah. There is no God but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #255)

God did send Muhammad and if you study the word of God in its entirety including the Quran, much will become clear to you

If God had not sent down Muhammad Christianity today would not have survived at all in tact as the Council were changing the face of Christianity rapidly with inventions such as the Trinity and Jesus IS God both which are deviations from the truth that Jesus spoke about THE ONE TRUE GOD:

And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 17:2-4

So then it must be believed that Jesus Christ was sent by the ONLY TRUE GOD, not that Jesus is God or partners with God because there is no other God besides HIM so he sent Jesus and yes he sent Muhammad whi actually defends the true Christian faith

Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

Now it is important to understand here why the Quran says God has no son and the Bible explains this:

For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
Hebrews 1:4-6

In other words God is saying not that He is his Father by procreation for God is not flesh and blood but that God is assumimg Guardianship over Christ as a son just as he said to David regarding Solomon

Believe Brother

[SimplyForgiven]

Paul Washer-“To make all contradicting statements True is the death of Truth”

Communication is always good, so that we can better understand eachother and have a better relationships,
but when it comes to the Aboslute truth is only in One.
For all these religions to come togethor and all claim truth yet all contradictions come togethor in unison is the death of Truth.

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

BD's mind is confused from reading the quran; so confused he worships satan!

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given
it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls:
for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and
to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath
made you overseers, to feed the church of God,
which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Matt.26:28: For this is my blood of the new testament,
   which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Heb.9:22: And almost all things are by the law purged
with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Romans 5:11: And not only so, but we also joy in God through our
Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received THE ATONEMENT.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Everybody,

The 'book of fraud' is reported to have been given by Gabriel, but it was really delivered by satan!
It's vital to understand that the 'book of fraud'(=quran book) teaches against The Gospel's message.

Gal.1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there
be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we,
or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have
preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any
man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

2Cor.11:14-15 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if [Satan's ministers] also be transformed as the
ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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I've already found God and All his prophets and Jesus Christ but you may have shed light on what you understand yourself because you said: Quote All those in the OT who were obeying God are part of the body of Christ If Obeying God in one period of time means one thing then obeying God in any other time would have the same meaning: And the people said unto Joshua, The LORD our God will we serve, and his voice will we obey. We were always to listen to whomever God has sent, not just Jesus according to the scriptures and not only that God so loved the world that he sent all the prophets as well and whoever believed in them did not perish either Thou shalt therefore obey the voice of the LORD thy God, and do his commandments and his statutes, which I command thee this day. Deuteronomy 27:9-11 Joshua 24:23-25 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries. Exodus 23:21-23 And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams. 1 Samuel 15:21-23 Who is among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his servant, that walketh in darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the name of the LORD, and stay upon his God. Isaiah 50:9-11 Jeremiah 7:22-24 (King James Version) 22For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: 23But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you. 24But they hearkened not, nor inclined their ear, but walked in the counsels and in the imagination of their evil heart, and went backward, and not forward. Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets. Daniel 9:9-11 So as I have shown you here God has always sent his servants the Prophets to express HIS will and Jesus said this: As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. John 9:4-6 If God had stopped sending others after Jesus you would have a point but Jesus himself sent his own disciples to preach about the Kingdom of God and Paul went to preach about the Gospel of Jesus Chist to the gentiles which as reported: Psalm 2:7-9 (King James Version) 7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. 8Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Now, hundreds of years later in the middle east you had the Arabs with over 360 Idols in the Kaba and rampent polytheism and you believe that God would not send someone to fulfill his will? even though God siad: For they served idols, whereof the LORD had said unto them, Ye shall not do this thing. 2 Kings 17:11-13 For all the gods of the people are idols: but the LORD made the heavens. 1 Chronicles 16:25-27 So Muhammad destoyed all their Idols and you say this was not sent from God Almighty? And the idols he shall utterly abolish. Isaiah 2:17-19 Muhammad brought Monotheism to All the people in that region a command given to the world that Moses gave to Israel Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: Deuteronomy 6:3-5 So Muhammad said: And your Allah is one Allah. There is no God but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.   (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #163) and you don't believe God sent Muhammad when Muhammad says this: Allah. There is no God but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).   (  سورة البقرة  , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #255) God did send Muhammad and if you study the word of God in its entirety including the Quran, much will become clear to you If God had not sent down Muhammad Christianity today would not have survived at all in tact as the Council were changing the face of Christianity rapidly with inventions such as the Trinity and Jesus IS God both which are deviations from the truth that Jesus spoke about THE ONE TRUE GOD: And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:2-4 So then it must be believed that Jesus Christ was sent by the ONLY TRUE GOD, not that Jesus is God or partners with God because there is no other God besides HIM so he sent Jesus and yes he sent Muhammad whi actually defends the true Christian faith Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.   (  سورة آل عمران  , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45) O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not “Trinity” : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.   (  سورة النساء  , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171) Now it is important to understand here why the Quran says God has no son and the Bible explains this: For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Hebrews 1:4-6 In other words God is saying not that He is his Father by procreation for God is not flesh and blood but that God is assumimg Guardianship over Christ as a son just as he said to David regarding Solomon Believe Brother

Hi BD:

My God said that he gave his “Only Begotten Son” that whosoever believes in him should have everlasting life.

Your prophet said that God did not have a Son, and so, someone is not telling the truth.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Hi BD:

As I said to you, you will find God when you believe His Word. It is the blood that washes away our sins and without this the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of God our Father, will not dwell within us.

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Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood

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John 3 There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. 2The same came to Jesus by night and said unto Him, “Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God; for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, unless God be with him.” 3Jesus answered and said unto him, “Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.” 4Nicodemus said unto Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” 5Jesus answered, “Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit

Your prophet also said that Jesus was not crucified and if this were true, he did not obey God even unto death, nor was he raised again from the dead. All this is contradictory that what is written in the bible, and I know by personal experience that Jesus was raised from the dead because I also have been raised from the dead by the same Spirit of God that raised him.

Romans

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9that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

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Acts 4:10Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Love in Christ,
Marty

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 14 2010,14:51)

Hi Everyone, BD's mind is confused from reading the quran; so confused he worships satan! Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HolySpirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Matt.26:28: For this is my blood of the new testament,    which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Heb.9:22: And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. Romans 5:11: And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received THE ATONEMENT. Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Leviticus 17:11 is about the prohibition from consuming blood ED

10And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people.
11For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
12Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
13And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.

You see ED just read a bit more and learn the truth

But remember ED God also said:

And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech; which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.
Jeremiah 32:34-36

God hates HUMAN SACRIFICE you support it.

But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Matthew 12:6-8

Why do you continue to condemn the guiltless ED?

[bodhitharta]

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 15 2010,10:04)

Hi BD: As I said to you, you will find God when you believe His Word.  It is the blood that washes away our sins and without this the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of God our Father, will not dwell within us.   Quote Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood Quote John 3   There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.     2The same came to Jesus by night and said unto Him, “Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God; for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, unless God be with him.”     3Jesus answered and said unto him, “Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God.”     4Nicodemus said unto Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?”     5Jesus answered, “Verily, verily I say unto thee, unless a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God.     6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit Your prophet also said that Jesus was not crucified and if this were true, he did not obey God even unto death, nor was he raised again from the dead.  All this is contradictory that what is written in the bible, and I know by personal experience that Jesus was raised from the dead because I also have been raised from the dead by the same Spirit of God that raised him. Romans Quote 9that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.     10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Quote Acts 4:10Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Love in Christ, Marty

I believe that you were raised from the dead, but was your death physical or actual? Listen to the Spirit of Christ:

Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
Luke 9:59-61

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Hi BD: My God said that he gave his “Only Begotten Son” that whosoever believes in him should have everlasting life. Your prophet said that God did not have a Son, and so, someone is not telling the truth. Love in Christ, Marty

God does not have OFFSPRING, GOD is not CARNAL

God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
John 4:23-25

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 15 2010,13:54)

Quote (942767 @ Oct. 15 2010,09:36) Hi BD: My God said that he gave his “Only Begotten Son” that whosoever believes in him should have everlasting life. Your prophet said that God did not have a Son, and so, someone is not telling the truth. Love in Christ, Marty God does not have OFFSPRING, GOD is not CARNAL God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:23-25

Hi BD:

Just like I said, someone is lying.  Jesus said “For God so loved the world that he gave His Only Begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life”.  

And so, you say that God does not have offspring, and so, who is lying?

Yes, of course, my death was not a physical death.  I died unto sin, and was raised again from the dead (spiritual separation from God) by His Holy Spirit only because Jesus obeyed God even unto death on the cross.  He overcame sin and death (spiritual separation from God).  If he had sinned, there would not be a resurrection from the dead.  The wages of sin is death (spiritual separation from God).

Ed, posted a scripture which anyone who is preaching another gospel had better take heed.

And the following scripture might help you to understand the severity of not believing God and thus making Him a liar.

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Hebrews 10:26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Bod, these are good straight to the point posts which Marty has made for you, I pray you will hear what Marty is saying, and come to realise that He is speaking truth. And that you and your family may find peace and salvation through the son of God.

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Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 15 2010,18:34)

Bod, these are good straight to the point posts which Marty has made for you, I pray you will hear what Marty is saying, and come to realise that He is speaking truth. And that you and your family may find peace and salvation through the son of God.

Hi Shimmer,

Ever learning BD is never able to come to the knowledge of the truth of JEHOVAH GOD!
2Tm.3:5-7 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins,
led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 15 2010,13:54) Quote (942767 @ Oct. 15 2010,09:36) Hi BD: My God said that he gave his “Only Begotten Son” that whosoever believes in him should have everlasting life. Your prophet said that God did not have a Son, and so, someone is not telling the truth. Love in Christ, Marty God does not have OFFSPRING, GOD is not CARNAL God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:23-25 Hi BD: Just like I said, someone is lying.  Jesus said “For God so loved the world that he gave His Only Begotten Son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life”.   And so, you say that God does not have offspring, and so, who is lying? Yes, of course, my death was not a physical death.  I died unto sin, and was raised again from the dead (spiritual separation from God) by His Holy Spirit only because Jesus obeyed God even unto death on the cross.  He overcame sin and death (spiritual separation from God).  If he had sinned, there would not be a resurrection from the dead.  The wages of sin is death (spiritual separation from God). Ed, posted a scripture which anyone who is preaching another gospel had better take heed. And the following scripture might help you to understand the severity of not believing God and thus making Him a liar. Quote Hebrews 10:26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Love in Christ, Marty

The scripture that ED was referring to was those trying to tell the gentiles they had to follow the laws of the Jews that's why Paul says

Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:6-8

ED uses these scriptures of Paul and applies them to whatever he doesn't like but it is plain that Paul was speaking to Jews in-fact he was speaking about the disciples of Jesus

2 Corinthians 11:5 (English Standard Version) 5Indeed, I consider that I am not in the least inferior to these super-apostles.

Also Hebrews 10:26 has to do with willfully commiting sin but somehow you use it to say “if you don't agree with me it's a sin”

I am just sharing with you some things you do not know

Psalm 40:13-14 (New King James Version)
13 Be pleased, O LORD, to deliver me;
O LORD, make haste to help me!
14 Let them be ashamed and brought to mutual confusion
Who seek to destroy my life;
Let them be driven backward and brought to dishonor
Who wish me evil.

Hebrews 10:5 (New King James Version)

5 Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:

“ Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.

This was a misquote by Paul there is no such statement in the Psalm that he was quoting from nor any other Psalm. Paul often misquotes I don't know if on purpose or not but often scriptures that he quotes can not be found or when they are they are not as he said it. This is the actual verse literally

Psalm 40:6 (Young's Literal Translation)
6Sacrifice and present Thou hast not desired, Ears Thou hast prepared for me, Burnt and sin-offering Thou hast not asked.

Was it a simple mistake? I don't know, but exchanging ears for Body gave it a whole different meaning didn't it? But now that I have shown you that he misquoted Psalm 40:6 will you at least admit then it changes the meaning.

God said:

For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Hosea 6:5-7

and Jesus said:

But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
Matthew 12:6-8

How do you feel about the misquote can you just over look it?

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